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kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Apr 29 @ 11:13 PM ET
I dunno man, have you ever heard how kicksave talks about the brothers?
- nfph

sammy davis jr is alright with me.






mainly because he is dead.
watsonnostaw
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Dude has all the personality of a lump of concrete. Just a complete lizard.
Joined: 06.26.2006

Apr 29 @ 11:15 PM ET
sammy davis jr is alright with me.






mainly because he is dead.

- kicksave856

known jew
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Apr 29 @ 11:18 PM ET
known jew
- watsonnostaw

of all his many talents this was the thing i found the most amazing about him.

even more than the eye or the time he kissed archie bunker.
watsonnostaw
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Dude has all the personality of a lump of concrete. Just a complete lizard.
Joined: 06.26.2006

Apr 29 @ 11:20 PM ET
Pie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: taking the low road
Joined: 10.14.2006

Apr 29 @ 11:21 PM ET
of all his many talents this was the thing i found the most amazing about him.

even more than the eye or the time he kissed archie bunker.

- kicksave856

reeks of jealousy
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Apr 29 @ 11:23 PM ET
reeks of jealousy
- Pie

i can't help the way i feel.
watsonnostaw
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Dude has all the personality of a lump of concrete. Just a complete lizard.
Joined: 06.26.2006

Apr 29 @ 11:28 PM ET
reeks of jealousy
- Pie

you are a meathead
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Apr 29 @ 11:30 PM ET
you are a meathead
- watsonnostaw

and a dingbat
Pie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: taking the low road
Joined: 10.14.2006

Apr 29 @ 11:32 PM ET
you are a meathead
- watsonnostaw

Penny wouldn't give it up the way I wanted it
watsonnostaw
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Dude has all the personality of a lump of concrete. Just a complete lizard.
Joined: 06.26.2006

Apr 29 @ 11:49 PM ET
Penny wouldn't give it up the way I wanted it
- Pie

stifle
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Apr 29 @ 11:51 PM ET
stifle
- watsonnostaw

watsonnostaw
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Dude has all the personality of a lump of concrete. Just a complete lizard.
Joined: 06.26.2006

Jun 8 @ 10:15 PM ET
Singer and U.N. global ambassador Dionne Warwick recently released an interesting if puzzling statement asserting that she would, and I quote, “never fall victim to the hard pressures of Roger Waters, from Pink Floyd, or other political people who have their views on politics in Israel.”

“Waters’ political views are of no concern,” I assume she means to her, the statement read. “Art,” she added, “has no boundaries.”

Until today, I have not publicly commented on Ms. Warwick’s Tel Aviv concert or reached out to her privately. But given her implicit invitation, I will comment now.

First, in my view, Dionne Warwick is a truly great singer. Secondly, I doubt not that she is deeply committed to her family and her fans.

But, ultimately, this whole conversation is not about her, her gig in Tel Aviv, or even her conception of boundaries and art, though I will touch on that conception later. This is about human rights and, more specifically, this is about the dystopia that can develop, as it has in Israel, when society lacks basic belief in equal human value, when it strays from the ability to feel empathy for our brothers and sisters of different faiths, nationalities, creeds or colors.

It strikes me as deeply disingenuous of Ms. Warwick to try to cast herself as a potential victim here. The victims are the occupied people of Palestine with no right to vote and the unequal Palestinian citizens of Israel, including Bedouin Israeli citizens of the village of al-Araqib, which has now been bulldozed 83 times by order of the Israeli government.

I believe you mean well, Ms. Warwick, but you are showing yourself to be profoundly ignorant of what has happened in Palestine since 1947, and I am sorry but you are wrong, art does know boundaries. In fact, it is an absolute responsibility of artists to stand up for human rights – social, political and religious – on behalf of all our brothers and sisters who are being oppressed, whoever and wherever they may be on the surface of this small planet.

Forgive me, Ms. Warwick, but I have done a little research, and know that you crossed the picket line to play Sun City at the height of the anti-apartheid movement. In those days, Little Steven, Bruce Springsteen and 50 or so other musicians protested against the vicious, racist oppression of the indigenous peoples of South Africa. Those artists allowed their art to cross boundaries, but for the purpose of political action. They released a record that struck a chord across the world. That record, “I Ain’t Gonna play Sun City,” showed the tremendous support of musicians all over the world for the anti-apartheid effort.

Those artists helped win that battle, and we, in the nonviolent Boycott, Divestment, and Sanctions (BDS) movement, will win this one against the similarly racist and colonialist policies of the Israeli government of occupation. We will continue to press forward in favor of equal rights for all the peoples of the Holy Land. Just as musicians weren’t going to play Sun City, increasingly we’re not going to play Tel Aviv. There is no place today in this world for another racist, apartheid regime.

As I’m sure you know, Lauryn Hill canceled her gig in Tel Aviv last week. She did not explicitly cite Israeli oppression of Palestinians as her reason for canceling, but the subtext of her actions is clear and we thank her for her principled stand.

Dionne, I am of your generation. I remember the road to Montgomery, I remember Selma, I remember the struggles against the Jim Crow laws here. Sadly, we are still fighting those battles, whether here in the USA in Ferguson or Baltimore, or in Gaza or the Negev, wherever the oppressed need us to raise our voices unafraid. We need to stand shoulder to shoulder with them, our brothers and sisters, until true equality and justice are won.

Remember, “Operation Protective Edge,” the Israeli bombing of Gaza last summer, resulted in the deaths of over 2,000 Palestinians, most of them civilians, including more than 500 Palestinian children. It is hard for us over here to imagine what it is like to be exiled, disenfranchised, imprisoned, rendered homeless and then slaughtered, with no place to flee. Hopefully, in the end, love will triumph. But love will not triumph unless we stand up to such injustice and fight it tooth and nail, together.

Dionne, your words indicate that part of you is set on going through with your concert. I am appealing to another part of you, to implore that other part to join us. We will welcome you. It is more than likely that you harbor reservations in your heart about what Israel is doing to the Palestinians, that when you see a mother’s child in ruins you wonder what if that child were mine? It is not too late to hear those reservations, to listen to that other voice, to value freedom and equality for all over the value you place on your concert in Tel Aviv.

When global pressure finally forces Israel to end its occupation, when the apartheid wall comes down, when justice is served to Palestinian refugees and all people there are free and equal, I will gladly join you in concert in the Holy Land, cross all the boundaries and share our music with all the people.
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Jun 8 @ 10:20 PM ET
Singer and U.N. global ambassador Dionne Warwick recently released an interesting if puzzling statement asserting that she would, and I quote, “never fall victim to the hard pressures of Roger Waters, from Pink Floyd, or other political people who have their views on politics in Israel.”

“Waters’ political views are of no concern,” I assume she means to her, the statement read. “Art,” she added, “has no boundaries.”

Until today, I have not publicly commented on Ms. Warwick’s Tel Aviv concert or reached out to her privately. But given her implicit invitation, I will comment now.

First, in my view, Dionne Warwick is a truly great singer. Secondly, I doubt not that she is deeply committed to her family and her fans.

But, ultimately, this whole conversation is not about her, her gig in Tel Aviv, or even her conception of boundaries and art, though I will touch on that conception later. This is about human rights and, more specifically, this is about the dystopia that can develop, as it has in Israel, when society lacks basic belief in equal human value, when it strays from the ability to feel empathy for our brothers and sisters of different faiths, nationalities, creeds or colors.

It strikes me as deeply disingenuous of Ms. Warwick to try to cast herself as a potential victim here. The victims are the occupied people of Palestine with no right to vote and the unequal Palestinian citizens of Israel, including Bedouin Israeli citizens of the village of al-Araqib, which has now been bulldozed 83 times by order of the Israeli government.

I believe you mean well, Ms. Warwick, but you are showing yourself to be profoundly ignorant of what has happened in Palestine since 1947, and I am sorry but you are wrong, art does know boundaries. In fact, it is an absolute responsibility of artists to stand up for human rights – social, political and religious – on behalf of all our brothers and sisters who are being oppressed, whoever and wherever they may be on the surface of this small planet.

Forgive me, Ms. Warwick, but I have done a little research, and know that you crossed the picket line to play Sun City at the height of the anti-apartheid movement. In those days, Little Steven, Bruce Springsteen and 50 or so other musicians protested against the vicious, racist oppression of the indigenous peoples of South Africa. Those artists allowed their art to cross boundaries, but for the purpose of political action. They released a record that struck a chord across the world. That record, “I Ain’t Gonna play Sun City,” showed the tremendous support of musicians all over the world for the anti-apartheid effort.

Those artists helped win that battle, and we, in the nonviolent Boycott, Divestment, and Sanctions (BDS) movement, will win this one against the similarly racist and colonialist policies of the Israeli government of occupation. We will continue to press forward in favor of equal rights for all the peoples of the Holy Land. Just as musicians weren’t going to play Sun City, increasingly we’re not going to play Tel Aviv. There is no place today in this world for another racist, apartheid regime.

As I’m sure you know, Lauryn Hill canceled her gig in Tel Aviv last week. She did not explicitly cite Israeli oppression of Palestinians as her reason for canceling, but the subtext of her actions is clear and we thank her for her principled stand.

Dionne, I am of your generation. I remember the road to Montgomery, I remember Selma, I remember the struggles against the Jim Crow laws here. Sadly, we are still fighting those battles, whether here in the USA in Ferguson or Baltimore, or in Gaza or the Negev, wherever the oppressed need us to raise our voices unafraid. We need to stand shoulder to shoulder with them, our brothers and sisters, until true equality and justice are won.

Remember, “Operation Protective Edge,” the Israeli bombing of Gaza last summer, resulted in the deaths of over 2,000 Palestinians, most of them civilians, including more than 500 Palestinian children. It is hard for us over here to imagine what it is like to be exiled, disenfranchised, imprisoned, rendered homeless and then slaughtered, with no place to flee. Hopefully, in the end, love will triumph. But love will not triumph unless we stand up to such injustice and fight it tooth and nail, together.

Dionne, your words indicate that part of you is set on going through with your concert. I am appealing to another part of you, to implore that other part to join us. We will welcome you. It is more than likely that you harbor reservations in your heart about what Israel is doing to the Palestinians, that when you see a mother’s child in ruins you wonder what if that child were mine? It is not too late to hear those reservations, to listen to that other voice, to value freedom and equality for all over the value you place on your concert in Tel Aviv.

When global pressure finally forces Israel to end its occupation, when the apartheid wall comes down, when justice is served to Palestinian refugees and all people there are free and equal, I will gladly join you in concert in the Holy Land, cross all the boundaries and share our music with all the people.

- watsonnostaw

too long, dopps. didn't read.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 8 @ 11:12 PM ET
Wes McAuley is a c*ck sucking fagg*t!!!!! If he has kids, I hope they get cancer and die young and he has to watch it happen!!!!!!

There is nothing worse than a biased official fu cking with a finals series!!!!!!

And I CAN'T wait for the lawsuits to start coming in from concussion related CTE in the NHL. The punitive damages will end this bullsh it league forever!!!!!!

- dahawks8819


JFC
watsonnostaw
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Dude has all the personality of a lump of concrete. Just a complete lizard.
Joined: 06.26.2006

Jun 8 @ 11:14 PM ET
JFC
- Nucker101



jose fried chicken?
Schenn-Sational!
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Sorry you don't understand...Y
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jun 9 @ 1:50 PM ET
No more just 'Made In China' but now owned, operated, and controlled by the Chinese. Lord have mercy!
Steve,

Yesterday, my husband & I went to WalMart to purchase a lawn mower in the garden section. The one we wanted was not accessible as it was way up at the top of the shelves about 15 feet or higher. It required a hydraulic lift to access the mowers that were being stored near the ceiling. A young very polite well spoken black youth was manning the cash register. We asked for help and he said, "sure", he would get someone and it would take a few minutes. We said thank you and waited. It started to take a little long so he tried to pull out one of those very tall step ladders warehouse stores keep in order to access products that are up way too high to access any other way.

While the young black man was trying to pull out the manual ladder we heard the equipment that has the warning signal when it is backing up. My husband & I looked to see a Chinese man in his late 20's very physically fit, like a soldier, driving an automated lift. It was apparent that he was using more sophisticated automated equipment that the average employee was not allowed to use. It also appeared he was a man with authority. The average employee had to use the manual ladder. This Chinese man was clearly someone with more authority. He spoke English but with a VERY HEAVY Mandarin accent as if he just stepped off the boat from China.

My husband & I couldn't help but notice it appears WalMart is now operated by Chinese management, possibly even military management, that are still more out of site from the average American shopper. As if they are keeping them in the back. We sense it is only a matter of days before our local WalMart is completely and overtly run by the Chinese, possibly even the Chinese military. No more just "Made In China" but now owned, operated, and controlled by the Chinese. Lord have mercy!

We live in an area of Appalachia that is predominately southern anglo farmers. We would love to know if anyone else is seeing this?

God bless you for all you do to help us try to stay free, JUDY
--
twiztedmike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2007

Jun 9 @ 1:59 PM ET
No more just 'Made In China' but now owned, operated, and controlled by the Chinese. Lord have mercy!
Steve,

Yesterday, my husband & I went to WalMart to purchase a lawn mower in the garden section. The one we wanted was not accessible as it was way up at the top of the shelves about 15 feet or higher. It required a hydraulic lift to access the mowers that were being stored near the ceiling. A young very polite well spoken black youth was manning the cash register. We asked for help and he said, "sure", he would get someone and it would take a few minutes. We said thank you and waited. It started to take a little long so he tried to pull out one of those very tall step ladders warehouse stores keep in order to access products that are up way too high to access any other way.

While the young black man was trying to pull out the manual ladder we heard the equipment that has the warning signal when it is backing up. My husband & I looked to see a Chinese man in his late 20's very physically fit, like a soldier, driving an automated lift. It was apparent that he was using more sophisticated automated equipment that the average employee was not allowed to use. It also appeared he was a man with authority. The average employee had to use the manual ladder. This Chinese man was clearly someone with more authority. He spoke English but with a VERY HEAVY Mandarin accent as if he just stepped off the boat from China.

My husband & I couldn't help but notice it appears WalMart is now operated by Chinese management, possibly even military management, that are still more out of site from the average American shopper. As if they are keeping them in the back. We sense it is only a matter of days before our local WalMart is completely and overtly run by the Chinese, possibly even the Chinese military. No more just "Made In China" but now owned, operated, and controlled by the Chinese. Lord have mercy!

We live in an area of Appalachia that is predominately southern anglo farmers. We would love to know if anyone else is seeing this?

God bless you for all you do to help us try to stay free, JUDY
--

- Schenn-Sational!

Congratulations, you have just been trolled
watsonnostaw
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Dude has all the personality of a lump of concrete. Just a complete lizard.
Joined: 06.26.2006

Jun 27 @ 12:57 AM ET
I'm still in shock we didn't 1) get a top notch young player plus picks for Dougie OR 2) make solid draft picks like Barzal et al from both of the trades

I could have lived with that...

This is just unbelievable....complete waste of an opportunity...hockey world laughing at the Bruins now...

Did nothing with savard contract...kept kelly...retained part of Looch contract...really did (frank) all with cap situation...what a (frank)ing nightmare

- busher
-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A medical emergency involving you.
Joined: 08.05.2013

Jun 27 @ 1:14 AM ET

please respect the thread
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Aug 12 @ 11:46 AM ET
But they shouldn't. It's such a bad argument to say hey teams do this, because teams make stupid decisions all the time. Dan Giardi is a horrible defensemen who makes everyone on the ice worse every time he plays.

Here is a link to a page that will show you that in the last seven years, all of the top 15 players who Grossman has played with have worse Corsi stats when he's with then then apart. It proves conclusively that he has a negative impact.

http://stats.hockeyanalys...ue&season=2008-15&sit=5v5

Gormley obviously has like 6.5 years less of data to look at, but at least he did positively impact some teammates.

It's pretty obvious: You could insert Gormley into a lineup and he wouldn't drag it down like Grossman does and ergo is already a better NHL dman.

Also, There is not a shortage of puck moving defenseman. IT's not like teams have to dress slow, plodding guys like Grossman, they do it on purpose because it takes a long time to convince people that something that has always been in the game is unnecessary.

I also take issue with the pansified idea that you have to ease players into the NHL. Christ, in virtually all other life situations you learn by challenging yourself. To think it's different for a pro athlete borders on ridiculous.

Don't judge Grossman on his possession numbers? OK THEN!

You do realize that if you don't have the puck, there isn't much you can do. Playing good D means getting the puck back, not running around while you don't have it. If you don't have the puck, there's not much you can do if you aren't getting it back.

If you play Gormley over Grossman your team will have the puck more, which is far more important than anything else.

Take this to the bank: if you don't have strong possession numbers you should be cut from the team. The only reason there is still players like that in the NHL you're not going to get everyone to realize everything at the same time and the NHL is still a place where you have a better chance of getting a job if you had one before: they reward horrible failure (Nonis and Loiselle both have jobs) and it's a very conservative place that doesn't treat new ideas positively.

For every Grossman that is bizarely still in the NHL, there's a T.J Brennan who is stuck in the AHL because of stubborn unrelenting outdated thinking. 6 pock moving D with not even a thought to physicality: that's how you'd build the best D possible.

Hell I thought this guy was really going to have a great argument: it sounds like every other dinosaur argument I've read. Boring and stuck on repeat about the past.

- James_Tanner
A_Tree
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm r00ting for you™ - KS, ON
Joined: 05.06.2011

Aug 12 @ 12:01 PM ET
[quote=kicksave856]

mouth full
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Aug 12 @ 1:16 PM ET
mouth full
- A_Tree

Best thread on HB right now just because of those 2 alone.
aschuter82
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Cypress Creek
Joined: 06.18.2010

Aug 12 @ 1:19 PM ET
[quote=kicksave856]
Jesus. It's dudes like this who just force the anti-stats crowd further into their entrenched positions.
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Aug 12 @ 1:25 PM ET
Jesus. It's dudes like this who just force the anti-stats crowd further into their entrenched positions.
- aschuter82

both guys in the argument are complete losers. it's not even about the argument.

both have now typed at least one war-and-peace-length response.

anyone who's going to sit on hockeybuzz and write that much poop and waste that much time is an idiot.

2 guys trying to prove they win, both proving they are losers.
aschuter82
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Cypress Creek
Joined: 06.18.2010

Aug 12 @ 1:44 PM ET
both guys in the argument are complete losers. it's not even about the argument.

both have now typed at least one war-and-peace-length response.

anyone who's going to sit on hockeybuzz and write that much poop and waste that much time is an idiot.

2 guys trying to prove they win, both proving they are losers.

- kicksave856

Oh for sure, I cruised through that thread yesterday, really sad stuff.
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