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Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Oct 5 @ 8:30 AM ET
Matthews is a half step above Eichel and Laine and McDavid is a full step above Matthews IMO.

His speed is hard to explain considering how well he can control the puck while skating faster than everyone else on the ice.

I really like both players. Laine too. Eichel looks like a bit of a Richard.

- Cape Breton Bruins

I don't think anyone can argue that any of these players aren't fantastically talented, or are in any way worse than Puljarvi. Anyone who says something like that is not a sane person.
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Liljegren tanked to get the Leafs
Joined: 07.14.2011

Oct 5 @ 8:32 AM ET
I don't think anyone can argue that any of these players aren't fantastically talented, or are in any way worse than Puljarvi. Anyone who says something like that is not a sane person.
- Feeling Glucky?

Like Matthews is comparable to Yakupov you mean?
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Oct 5 @ 8:46 AM ET
Like Matthews is comparable to Yakupov you mean?
- walshyleafsfan

Come on. No body with the mental capacity to chew their own food thinks that, or ever did.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Boyle > Marleau :dopes, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Oct 5 @ 9:06 AM ET
It's also great that Matthews is on the 2nd PP unit.
- walshyleafsfan




How many teams could say that.
daeth
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: when it's a 3 taco-bell town, maybe they'll be ready, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Oct 5 @ 9:16 AM ET
How many teams could say that.
- burn

i think only one team can say that since there's only one matthews right now. cloning tech isn't quite there yet
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Oct 5 @ 9:18 AM ET
Triumphalism is not a disorder. It is really just a case of bad judgment.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Oct 5 @ 9:23 AM ET
i think only one team can say that since there's only one matthews right now. cloning tech isn't quite there yet
- daeth


I don't get it. McDavid put on a show. 3 goals in a 3-0 game.

Do you really think anybody outside of Leaf fans are thinking about wanting to clone anyone other than McDavid.

Was Matthews even the Leafs best player last night?
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: degenerate gamblers like yourself usually end up getting the big payoff. just keep at it.
Joined: 06.30.2006

Oct 5 @ 9:25 AM ET
that's the tough part of so much depth. heck leivo should be in the league. also why Matthews may struggle to match Eichel laine McDavid etc. in terms of points.

leafs don't rely on him like those guys are relied upon by their teams.

- systemtool


Was discussing this at work yesterday.

It is of course great news for the Leafs that they may be able to keep his ice time down and they can ice 3 different powerplay forward units. It may mean that he can't keep up with the points of the others though.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: degenerate gamblers like yourself usually end up getting the big payoff. just keep at it.
Joined: 06.30.2006

Oct 5 @ 9:27 AM ET
I don't get it. McDavid put on a show. 3 goals in a 3-0 game.

Do you really think anybody outside of Leaf fans are thinking about wanting to clone anyone other than McDavid.

Was Matthews even the Leafs best player last night?

- spatso


Yes.

Or maybe Andersen.

Our new rookie Dman also had a great game. That's the same thing you guys get to look forw

oh wait, nevermind.
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Oct 5 @ 9:28 AM ET
Ottawa fans are angry with Melnyk. Make no mistake about it.

I am indifferent, we have known for a long time it is what it is. Apparently, the team has two less home games. They play one of those home dates in Sweden, the other is the outdoor game at TD place.

Season ticket holders are being asked to pay for a full season package (no discount). And, they are being asked to buy tickets separately for the outdoor game.

I have been told this and don't know for certain that it is true. However if those details are correct the situation with Melnyk is going to get a lot worse.

- spatso



http://www.ottawasun.com/...-surrounding-the-senators

"A year ago, the Senators proved they could win at home (22-11-8) and away (22-17-2) but the way it sets up this year – 13 of the opening 18 games are home games — jumping out early will aid them with the hardship that comes late. A dozen of those opening 18 games are against teams that didn’t make the playoffs a year ago. The real grind begins with a two-week, seven-game road trip in late November and early December that goes east, west and east again."



http://ottawacitizen.com/...ng-out-opening-night-game

"The Senators only get about half their season ticket support (roughly 4,000 of an estimated 8,000 season ticket holders) from corporate outlets. In the Greater Toronto Area, the Maple Leafs have the luxury of tying up about 80 per cent of their season ticket sales (roughly 13,000 of 16,000) from corporations. The massive population of the GTA fights over the remaining tickets like chickens chasing feed."
senstroll
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Sens Suck, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Oct 5 @ 9:41 AM ET
http://www.ottawasun.com/2017/10/04/top-10-questions-surrounding-the-senators

"A year ago, the Senators proved they could win at home (22-11-8) and away (22-17-2) but the way it sets up this year – 13 of the opening 18 games are home games — jumping out early will aid them with the hardship that comes late. A dozen of those opening 18 games are against teams that didn’t make the playoffs a year ago. The real grind begins with a two-week, seven-game road trip in late November and early December that goes east, west and east again."



http://ottawacitizen.com/...ng-out-opening-night-game

"The Senators only get about half their season ticket support (roughly 4,000 of an estimated 8,000 season ticket holders) from corporate outlets. In the Greater Toronto Area, the Maple Leafs have the luxury of tying up about 80 per cent of their season ticket sales (roughly 13,000 of 16,000) from corporations. The massive population of the GTA fights over the remaining tickets like chickens chasing feed."

- D0PPELGANGER


It doesnt help that the owner goes on the radio and blames the fans for poop

D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Oct 5 @ 9:45 AM ET
It doesnt help that the owner goes on the radio and blames the fans for poop
- senstroll



http://www.sportsnet.ca/5...nyk-clubs-potential-move/
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Boyle > Marleau :dopes, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Oct 5 @ 9:49 AM ET
I don't get it. McDavid put on a show. 3 goals in a 3-0 game.

Do you really think anybody outside of Leaf fans are thinking about wanting to clone anyone other than McDavid.

Was Matthews even the Leafs best player last night?

- spatso



What on earth are you talking about
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Liljegren tanked to get the Leafs
Joined: 07.14.2011

Oct 5 @ 9:55 AM ET
What on earth are you talking about
- burn

Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Oct 5 @ 9:56 AM ET
Triumphalism is not a disorder. It is really just a case of bad judgment.
- spatso

Thank you for finally coming around on this, and admitting that celebrating playoff losses as though they're cup wins is bad judgement.
senstroll
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Sens Suck, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Oct 5 @ 9:56 AM ET
What on earth are you talking about
- burn




Its becoming painfully obvious he is not happy the Leafs have a player like Matthews.
Constantly blowing his wad over Laine and Mcdavid

McDavid is by far the best player, Matthews is not on his level..its not that close tbh
but thats ok
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Oct 5 @ 9:59 AM ET
I don't get it. McDavid put on a show. 3 goals in a 3-0 game.

Do you really think anybody outside of Leaf fans are thinking about wanting to clone anyone other than McDavid.

Was Matthews even the Leafs best player last night?

- spatso

Matthews had an excellent outing, but the Leafs aren't in a situation like the Sens, where they need to rely on one star to be their best player night in, night out.

The Leafs have a star player on each of their top-3 lines. Their third line has 2 30 goal scorers on it, who combined for 3 goals last night.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Boyle > Marleau :dopes, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Oct 5 @ 9:59 AM ET

- walshyleafsfan



Leafs vs sens thread, and he brings up mcdavid out of nowhere? Mcdavid had 3goals, Matthews also had 3 pts but questions if he was good enough.

What a (frank)ing moron.
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Liljegren tanked to get the Leafs
Joined: 07.14.2011

Oct 5 @ 10:13 AM ET


Its becoming painfully obvious he is not happy the Leafs have a player like Matthews.
Constantly blowing his wad over Laine and Mcdavid

McDavid is by far the best player, Matthews is not on his level..its not that close tbh
but thats ok

- senstroll

And that's the beauty.

The Oilers need McDavid to be the best player in the league to be successful.

The Leafs don't require Matthews to be a top 5 player in the league to be successful.

Their depth is truly outstanding.
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Liljegren tanked to get the Leafs
Joined: 07.14.2011

Oct 5 @ 10:14 AM ET
Leafs vs sens thread, and he brings up mcdavid out of nowhere? Mcdavid had 3goals, Matthews also had 3 pts but questions if he was good enough.

What a (frank)ing moron.

- burn

That's what happen when you're a fan of 30 NHL teams. I love the fact he can't ever mention a Sens forward.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Oct 5 @ 10:18 AM ET
What would you rather have as your top line?

Smith - Turris - Hoffman

or

Marleau - Kadri - Komarov
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Boyle > Marleau :dopes, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Oct 5 @ 10:24 AM ET
That's what happen when you're a fan of 30 NHL teams. I love the fact he can't ever mention a Sens forward.
- walshyleafsfan



Is there one worthwhile mentioning?
senstroll
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Sens Suck, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Oct 5 @ 10:24 AM ET
What would you rather have as your top line?

Smith - Turris - Hoffman

or

Marleau - Kadri - Komarov

- Feeling Glucky?


my take..its close but

Komarov vs Smith = meh who cares
Kadri vs Turris = tie
Hoffman vs Marleau = Hoffman
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Oct 5 @ 10:33 AM ET
my take..its close but

Komarov vs Smith = meh who cares
Kadri vs Turris = tie
Hoffman vs Marleau = Hoffman

- senstroll

I don't know if I'd call Kadri/Turris a tie.

At least, not the Kadri from last year who played solid shut-down hockey, while scoring 30 goals.

I was surprised to see Marleau/Marner out as the 3rd PK pairing. Didn't realize Marleau would instantly gain Babcock's trust that much as a two way player.
senstroll
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Sens Suck, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Oct 5 @ 10:46 AM ET
I don't know if I'd call Kadri/Turris a tie.

At least, not the Kadri from last year who played solid shut-down hockey, while scoring 30 goals.

I was surprised to see Marleau/Marner out as the 3rd PK pairing. Didn't realize Marleau would instantly gain Babcock's trust that much as a two way player.

- Feeling Glucky?


I am a Kadri fan, he is polarizing for fans but I have always liked him.
But if you are being fair its really close. Kadri is a couple years younger and could prove to be the better player overall in a few years but I dont think its much debate at the moment..pretty similar so far
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