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D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Oct 1 @ 1:28 PM ET
So you failed to answer my questions. Not shocking. This tells me you too feel the leafs are in a better situation.
- systemtool



What part of my answer to your question did you not understand?

The team that went three rounds (19 games) deep into the playoffs (the most recent NHL games that count) had the better roster.

Ottawa (in the playoffs) GF/GP 2.47 GA/GP 2.63 Diff. 0.16

leafs (in the playoffs) GF/GP 2.67 GA/GP 3.00 Diff. 0.33

The leafs had a higher (negative) goal differential than the Senators did.

0.33>0.16
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Oct 1 @ 1:29 PM ET
Based on?
- burn



What part of "in the playoffs" did you not understand?
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Oct 1 @ 1:31 PM ET
"you make your predictions of the future matter"

That's literally what the thread is about.

You use the past season as a reference guide. Take all factors into it. Where each team was slated to finish before the season started and where they ended up at the end of it.

Leafs were expected to finish dead last in the league. Sens were predicted to be, at worst, a wild card team.

Both teams made the playoffs.

Goal differential. Age of the teams star players going forward.

Leafs scored more than they allowed, all while playing some of the most exciting hockey you'll ever see. Sens allowed more than they scored, all while playing the most boring brand of hockey you'll ever see.

Leafs had the greatest rookie crop in the history of the league. The Sens are old as dirt.

You look at the playoffs outcome. How far a team went and how they did it.

Leafs lost in 6 games (5 games went to OT) to the Presidents Trophy winning Washington Capitals.

The Sens went to the conference finals. They played a Bruins team that was missing 50 (frank)ing % of it's blueline. They played a Rangers team that had the lead and outplayed them every game until the final minutes when Lundqvist would poop the bed. And they played a decimated Penguins lineup.

And the Sens did it all on the back of Anderson standing on his head.

- GreatGigInTheSky



the leafs won zero playoff series this past spring, the Senators won two.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: everyday i see my dream
Joined: 03.14.2014

Oct 1 @ 1:52 PM ET
Search for a saviour continues......


Corey Pronman @coreypronman
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7m
Chabot had a rough game vs Montreal. Defense a work in progress still.
Brent Wallace @tsn_wally
The Sens send Chabot and Harpur to AHL and place McCormick on waivers to send him to Belleville.

- burn

Oh


burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Boyle > Marleau :dopes, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Oct 1 @ 2:01 PM ET
What part of "in the playoffs" did you not understand?
- D0PPELGANGER


Well leave it to a dope like you to make incorrect inferences like that.
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Ahead By A Century, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Oct 1 @ 2:09 PM ET
the leafs won zero playoff series this past spring, the Senators won two.
- D0PPELGANGER


That is a factually correct statement. As is literally everything I said in my post.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Oct 1 @ 2:23 PM ET
what part of me not making sense and avoiding questions dont you guys understand?!


challenge is still on dooopps trump. youre old, at least dont be coward.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Oct 1 @ 2:26 PM ET
What part of "in the playoffs" did you not understand?
- D0PPELGANGER



the part where they gave up more goals then they scored. the only team to do so. thats a hard thing to fluke on.

most teams who surrender more to the opponent than the get themselves dont succeed. without a ton of fluke luck
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Oct 1 @ 2:27 PM ET
What part of my answer to your question did you not understand?

The team that went three rounds (19 games) deep into the playoffs (the most recent NHL games that count) had the better roster.

Ottawa (in the playoffs) GF/GP 2.47 GA/GP 2.63 Diff. 0.16

leafs (in the playoffs) GF/GP 2.67 GA/GP 3.00 Diff. 0.33

The leafs had a higher (negative) goal differential than the Senators did.

0.33>0.16

- D0PPELGANGER



so were ignoring the 82 games before that? must be another one of your "12 year" things.

https://www.sportingchart...m-goal-differential/2016/

these stats must be from 13 years ago or more. and it was more than the smaller playoff sample size so obviously they dont count.
BetterCallSaul
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Liljegren?
Joined: 05.07.2013

Oct 1 @ 2:41 PM ET
Search for a saviour continues......


Corey Pronman @coreypronman
·
7m
Chabot had a rough game vs Montreal. Defense a work in progress still.
Brent Wallace @tsn_wally
The Sens send Chabot and Harpur to AHL and place McCormick on waivers to send him to Belleville.

- burn

But Spatso guaranteed Chabot would make the team out of camp and contribute right away. Now he's starting in the minors? I'm confused.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Boyle > Marleau :dopes, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Oct 1 @ 4:12 PM ET
But Spatso guaranteed Chabot would make the team out of camp and contribute right away. Now he's starting in the minors? I'm confused.
- BetterCallSaul



And harpur.


Let's see if he can do in the ahl at 20 what Dermott was able to do at 19......
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Boyle > Marleau :dopes, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Oct 1 @ 4:20 PM ET
so were ignoring the 82 games before that? must be another one of your "12 year" things.

https://www.sportingchart...m-goal-differential/2016/

these stats must be from 13 years ago or more. and it was more than the smaller playoff sample size so obviously they dont count.

- systemtool




History is important...... Only certain parts of history, ones of my choosing. Like the playoffs last year, but not necessarily the regular season. And the last 12 years, but certainly not 13 - 50yrs ago. Do not mention those years at all, they were icky. But don't forget 80 yrs ago.....

So yeah stoopid loaf fans picking and choosing. Be like dopes and not cherry pick what and when things are relevant.
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Liljegren tanked to get the Leafs
Joined: 07.14.2011

Oct 1 @ 4:33 PM ET
But Spatso guaranteed Chabot would make the team out of camp and contribute right away. Now he's starting in the minors? I'm confused.
- BetterCallSaul

Wanted to keep his best player outside of the NHL label
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Boyle > Marleau :dopes, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Oct 1 @ 4:53 PM ET
Wanted to keep his best player outside of the NHL label
- walshyleafsfan



Shrewd
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: degenerate gamblers like yourself usually end up getting the big payoff. just keep at it.
Joined: 06.30.2006

Oct 1 @ 5:19 PM ET
Like I said ............ when leaf fans won't count what matters, they make what they can count matter ............. but it matters only to them.
- D0PPELGANGER


The thread is not about the past, but the Leafs win that discussion, HUGE unless you hand pick a timeframe that suits you.

In terms of the present, you have Karlsson. We are up in every other aspect of an organization.

If you can't debate that, (you can't), then save yourself the humiliation and go take a break for a while.




Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: degenerate gamblers like yourself usually end up getting the big payoff. just keep at it.
Joined: 06.30.2006

Oct 1 @ 5:21 PM ET
the leafs won zero playoff series this past spring, the Senators won two.
- D0PPELGANGER


past.

Is this thread about the past. You better hope not because the debate becomes even more lopsided in favour of the Leafs... unless you handpick timeframes that suit you and ignore stuff you don't like.

ZERO cups EVER.

0-4 vs. Leafs

Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: degenerate gamblers like yourself usually end up getting the big payoff. just keep at it.
Joined: 06.30.2006

Oct 1 @ 5:23 PM ET
the leafs won zero playoff series this past spring, the Senators won two.
- D0PPELGANGER


Keep ignoring reality. It has served you well so far.

ZERO cups, EVER.

Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: degenerate gamblers like yourself usually end up getting the big payoff. just keep at it.
Joined: 06.30.2006

Oct 1 @ 5:26 PM ET
Spatso up to his old tricks

http://lifewise.canoe.com.../2017/10/01/22756025.html
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: degenerate gamblers like yourself usually end up getting the big payoff. just keep at it.
Joined: 06.30.2006

Oct 1 @ 5:31 PM ET
Sens fans bragging about doing more almost-winning than the leafs and completely ignoring the subject of the thread.
BetterCallSaul
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Liljegren?
Joined: 05.07.2013

Oct 1 @ 5:58 PM ET
Sens fans bragging about doing more almost-winning than the leafs and completely ignoring the subject of the thread.
- Aetherial

Almost winning. That's exactly right. Well done.

Last season the Senators were exceptional at almost winning.
Michael OConnor
Vancouver Canucks
Location: North Bay, ON
Joined: 07.01.2015

Oct 1 @ 6:31 PM ET
What an absurd question. The Leafs literally the deepest talent pool in the NHL when it comes to young forwards looking to make the NHL roster. They have many young, skilled defenders and a potential all-star goaltender who is still just 27 years of age. The future is bright for Toronto, especially since moving the hefty contracts of Kessel and Phaneuf out of town.

The Leafs have one of the brightest futures of all the NHL teams.
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Ahead By A Century, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Oct 1 @ 6:33 PM ET
What an absurd question. The Leafs literally the deepest talent pool in the NHL when it comes to young forwards looking to make the NHL roster. They have many young, skilled defenders and a potential all-star goaltender who is still just 27 years of age. The future is bright for Toronto, especially since moving the hefty contracts of Kessel and Phaneuf out of town.

The Leafs have one of the brightest futures of all the NHL teams.

- Michael OConnor


burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Boyle > Marleau :dopes, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Oct 1 @ 6:55 PM ET

- GreatGigInTheSky



systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Oct 1 @ 9:08 PM ET
But Spatso guaranteed Chabot would make the team out of camp and contribute right away. Now he's starting in the minors? I'm confused.
- BetterCallSaul


he played a big role in his teams last three meaningful pre-season playoff games, and they gave up 22 goals. scoreboard matters, spatso says.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Oct 1 @ 9:08 PM ET

- GreatGigInTheSky


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