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burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Boyle > Marleau :dopes, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Oct 1 @ 8:45 AM ET
Like I said ............ when leaf fans won't count what matters, they make what they can count matter ............. but it matters only to them.
- D0PPELGANGER



What
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Oct 1 @ 8:45 AM ET
The blue jackets are what the Pens may be if they can improve. Jackets have won more games the last 12 days than the pens. Clearly they're better.

D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Oct 1 @ 8:45 AM ET
What a mess. Count everything.

I've never failed to answer this. Post evidence and the pages where this question was asked and I never responded to.

Lying like spatso now. The Trump brothers.

- systemtool




Thanks, you've proven my above posting to be true.

There is nothing you can use, to prove the leafs are the better team today, or at anytime in the recent past ..............



All you use is speculation about the future, just like leaf fans have used for the past number of years, and every time being wrong.................. perhaps one season it will happen, but it's been a long long time since it has.





When you don't count what matters (standing, playoffs) you make what you speculate (the unknown future) count.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Boyle > Marleau :dopes, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Oct 1 @ 8:51 AM ET
Thanks, you've proven my above posting to be true.

There is nothing you can use, to prove the leafs are the better team today, or at anytime in the recent past ..............



All you use is speculation about the future, just like leaf fans have used for the past number of years, and every time being wrong.................. perhaps one season it will happen, but it's been a long long time since it has.





When you don't count what matters (standing, playoffs) you make what you speculate (the unknown future) count.

- D0PPELGANGER




How fitting he called you trump, you come out with this.

No, what you posted just now isn't proven. And if you think this is true you're living in your own fantasy makebelieve land
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Oct 1 @ 8:52 AM ET
Thanks, you've proven my above posting to be true.

There is nothing you can use, to prove the leafs are the better team today, or at anytime in the recent past ..............



All you use is speculation about the future, just like leaf fans have used for the past number of years, and every time being wrong.................. perhaps one season it will happen, but it's been a long long time since it has.





When you don't count what matters (standing, playoffs) you make what you speculate (the unknown future) count.

- D0PPELGANGER


I think the team that can score more goals than they allow is in a better situation.

You're a (frank)ing idiot.

And once again using the past to your convenience.

Why don't we use unbiased sources and see who is in a better situation. People who aren't leaf or sens fans. I think that's the best route to take here.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Oct 1 @ 8:52 AM ET
How fitting he called you trump, you come out with this.

No, what you posted just now isn't proven. And if you think this is true you're living in your own fantasy makebelieve land

- burn



Trump Do0Op is triggered. Trump Spatso should be here to reinforce soon.

Telling lies. Oh he lies.
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Oct 1 @ 8:58 AM ET
I think the team that can score more goals than they allow is in a better situation.

You're a (frank)ing idiot.

And once again using the past to your convenience.

- systemtool



Which team played more rounds in the playoffs this past spring (most recent NHL games that counted).......... the leafs or the Senators?



systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Oct 1 @ 9:00 AM ET
Which team played more rounds in the playoffs this past spring (most recent NHL games that counted).......... the leafs or the Senators?
- D0PPELGANGER



The Sens.

Which team has the better roster and scored more than they allowed? Also of all the playoff teams only 1 team scored less than they allowed. Which team was that?
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Oct 1 @ 9:02 AM ET
I'll make you a deal Dopps. If you can find more sources that project the sens ahead of the leafs and not vice versa then I'll stop posting for a month. If I find more than you, you stop posting for a month. Let's see how confident you are now..

You have the advantage and should win easy. Remember last season and the playoffs? You got this by a landslide...
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Boyle > Marleau :dopes, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Oct 1 @ 9:07 AM ET
Which team played more rounds in the playoffs this past spring (most recent NHL games that counted).......... the leafs or the Senators?
- D0PPELGANGER



How does that matter to who is in a better position? What happened in the past doesn't mean it's going to happen again this year.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Boyle > Marleau :dopes, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Oct 1 @ 9:08 AM ET
I'll make you a deal Dopps. If you can find more sources that project the sens ahead of the leafs and not vice versa then I'll stop posting for a month. If I find more than you, you stop posting for a month. Let's see how confident you are now..

You have the advantage and should win easy. Remember last season and the playoffs? You got this by a landslide...

- systemtool



D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Oct 1 @ 9:09 AM ET
The Sens.

Which team has the better roster and scored more than they allowed? Also of all the playoff teams only 1 team scored less than they allowed. Which team was that?

- systemtool




The team that went three rounds (19 games) deep into the playoffs (the most recent NHL games that count) had the better roster.

Ottawa (in the playoffs) GF/GP 2.47 GA/GP 2.63 Diff. 0.16

leafs (in the playoffs) GF/GP 2.67 GA/GP 3.00 Diff. 0.33
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Oct 1 @ 9:13 AM ET
How does that matter to who is in a better position? What happened in the past doesn't mean it's going to happen again this year.
- burn



Yes you're correct.

In game one of the season, if the leafs or the Sens lose a key player to a long term injury ............... all predictions go out the window.

Predictions are not worth the paper or monitor they're written on.

Last playoffs, practically ALL the sports pundits predicted the Senators to lose in their first three playoff rounds, by a wide margin each time.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Boyle > Marleau :dopes, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Oct 1 @ 9:14 AM ET
Dopes complains about leaf fans picking and choosing things to compare(they haven't), turns around and chooses part of last year.

Yeah dopes, you're trump.


What an idiot.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Oct 1 @ 9:14 AM ET
The team that went three rounds (19 games) deep into the playoffs (the most recent NHL games that count) had the better roster.

Ottawa (in the playoffs) GF/GP 2.47 GA/GP 2.63 Diff. 0.16

leafs (in the playoffs) GF/GP 2.67 GA/GP 3.00 Diff. 0.33

- D0PPELGANGER


So you failed to answer my questions. Not shocking. This tells me you too feel the leafs are in a better situation.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Boyle > Marleau :dopes, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Oct 1 @ 9:15 AM ET
The team that went three rounds (19 games) deep into the playoffs (the most recent NHL games that count) had the better roster.

Ottawa (in the playoffs) GF/GP 2.47 GA/GP 2.63 Diff. 0.16

leafs (in the playoffs) GF/GP 2.67 GA/GP 3.00 Diff. 0.33

- D0PPELGANGER



Based on?
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Liljegren tanked to get the Leafs
Joined: 07.14.2011

Oct 1 @ 9:15 AM ET
https://www.cbssports.com/nhl/standings

Standings - Preseason. Which matters or doesn't matter depending on the Sens result the previous night.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Oct 1 @ 9:15 AM ET
Dopes complains about leaf fans picking and choosing things to compare(they haven't), turns around and chooses part of last year.

Yeah dopes, you're trump.


What an idiot.

- burn


Trump DO0opps is too afraid of my challenge. It's what the French call le triggered.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Oct 1 @ 9:16 AM ET
https://www.cbssports.com/nhl/standings

Standings - Preseason. Which matters or doesn't matter depending on the Sens result the previous night.

- walshyleafsfan



burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Boyle > Marleau :dopes, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Oct 1 @ 9:18 AM ET
Yes you're correct.

In game one of the season, if the leafs or the Sens lose a key player to a long term injury ............... all predictions go out the window.

Predictions are not worth the paper or monitor they're written on.

Last playoffs, practically ALL the sports pundits predicted the Senators to lose in their first three playoff rounds, by a wide margin each time.

- D0PPELGANGER



Thankfully for the sens there's no chance of that happening, unless karlsson does indeed make a miraculous recovery and plays game one.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Oct 1 @ 9:19 AM ET
Taking the kid out for the day for some fun times. Take it easy on Trump Dopps till I get back. He's fragile right now. Like spatso. The preseason results have them down. Meaningless events trigger meaningless old men.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Oct 1 @ 9:20 AM ET
Thankfully for the sens there's no chance of that happening, unless karlsson does indeed make a miraculous recovery and plays game one.
- burn



First thing I thought of. He's making the case for the Leafs inadvertently. This is how topics usually end in this thread.

Have a great Sunday everyone! Even the two resident trumps!
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Boyle > Marleau :dopes, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Oct 1 @ 9:23 AM ET
First thing I thought of. He's making the case for the Leafs inadvertently. This is how topics usually end in this thread.

Have a great Sunday everyone! Even the two resident trumps!

- systemtool



He does that all the time how many times has he posted a link to an article that ended up proving him wrong.
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Ahead By A Century, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Oct 1 @ 11:10 AM ET
What is your preferred time range, in which to use as a comparison for the two teams??

Last season only? The past 3 seasons?

Or do you just base your comparisons on your perception of the future?


I know I've asked this question of you a couple of time now, and you never answer .......... We all know it is because using anything in the recent past will not show the leafs as a better team .................. so you refuse to count what matters .......... you make your predictions of the future matter, and count that as proof the leafs are better.


Do you have link you can post, that proves the future of the leafs makes them the better team today, yesterday, last season or whatever time frame works for you?

- D0PPELGANGER


"you make your predictions of the future matter"

That's literally what the thread is about.

You use the past season as a reference guide. Take all factors into it. Where each team was slated to finish before the season started and where they ended up at the end of it.

Leafs were expected to finish dead last in the league. Sens were predicted to be, at worst, a wild card team.

Both teams made the playoffs.

Goal differential. Age of the teams star players going forward.

Leafs scored more than they allowed, all while playing some of the most exciting hockey you'll ever see. Sens allowed more than they scored, all while playing the most boring brand of hockey you'll ever see.

Leafs had the greatest rookie crop in the history of the league. The Sens are old as dirt.

You look at the playoffs outcome. How far a team went and how they did it.

Leafs lost in 6 games (5 games went to OT) to the Presidents Trophy winning Washington Capitals.

The Sens went to the conference finals. They played a Bruins team that was missing 50 (frank)ing % of it's blueline. They played a Rangers team that had the lead and outplayed them every game until the final minutes when Lundqvist would poop the bed. And they played a decimated Penguins lineup.

And the Sens did it all on the back of Anderson standing on his head.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Boyle > Marleau :dopes, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Oct 1 @ 1:04 PM ET
Search for a saviour continues......


Corey Pronman @coreypronman
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Chabot had a rough game vs Montreal. Defense a work in progress still.
Brent Wallace @tsn_wally
The Sens send Chabot and Harpur to AHL and place McCormick on waivers to send him to Belleville.
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