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burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Boyle > Marleau :dopes, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Sep 24 @ 9:43 AM ET
Brown 40 pts., 30 games 1.33 ppg
Bracco 83 pts., 57 games 1.56 ppg

and yet, somehow, the leafs, whose core is much younger, don't even have room to take a look at Bracco this season while Brown is now your next choice as the saviour for Ottawa, after a couple pre-season games playing against half rosters and disinterested veterans.

- Aetherial



This is why everyone is always laughing at the leaf fans.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: degenerate gamblers like yourself usually end up getting the big payoff. just keep at it.
Joined: 06.30.2006

Sep 24 @ 9:46 AM ET
I agree with that. That's why I'll never hate Phaneuf. Played his ass off to the best of his abilities.

But that doesn't change the fact that he has lost another step in his game. He's not as good/fast as he was when he was with the Leafs and he was getting slow with us.

- GreatGigInTheSky


and like all Toronto captains, he had to deal with the bumhole media and fans in this city.

Which is why I hope Matthews is never the captain, or at least not for a long time.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: degenerate gamblers like yourself usually end up getting the big payoff. just keep at it.
Joined: 06.30.2006

Sep 24 @ 9:46 AM ET
This is why everyone is always laughing at the leaf fans.
- burn


systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Sep 24 @ 9:48 AM ET

- burn



avs were unbeaten last preason and only gave up like 3-4 goals total in all their games

sens were under .500 or close.

so meaningful
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Boyle > Marleau :dopes, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Sep 24 @ 9:50 AM ET
avs were unbeaten last preason and only gave up like 3-4 goals total in all their games

sens were under .500 or close.

so meaningful

- systemtool




Yeah i saw that.

Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: degenerate gamblers like yourself usually end up getting the big payoff. just keep at it.
Joined: 06.30.2006

Sep 24 @ 9:53 AM ET
avs were unbeaten last preason and only gave up like 3-4 goals total in all their games

sens were under .500 or close.

so meaningful

- systemtool


Rosen, who has never been touted as the best player not in the NHL, and who is competing for the Leafs #6 Defense spot, instead of competing to be the franchise saviour, has the same pre-season points as Chabot*.


so meaningful

(* as near as I could tell anyway since you have to dig a little to find pre-season rosters and scoring stats... because it is too meaningful)
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Sep 24 @ 9:58 AM ET
Rosen, who has never been touted as the best player not in the NHL, and who is competing for the Leafs #6 Defense spot, instead of competing to be the franchise saviour, has the same pre-season points as Chabot*.


so meaningful

(* as near as I could tell anyway since you have to dig a little to find pre-season rosters and scoring stats... because it is too meaningful)

- Aetherial



burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Boyle > Marleau :dopes, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Sep 24 @ 10:01 AM ET

Angry Sens Gnome
Angry Sens Gnome @AngrySensGnome
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26m
poop kick the Leafs & Habs in the pre-season. Trade rumours persist for Duchene...


spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Sep 24 @ 10:33 AM ET
Brown 40 pts., 30 games 1.33 ppg
Bracco 83 pts., 57 games 1.56 ppg

and yet, somehow, the leafs, whose core is much younger, don't even have room to take a look at Bracco this season while Brown is now your next choice as the saviour for Ottawa, after a couple pre-season games playing against half rosters and disinterested veterans.

- Aetherial


Sens really believe in Brown. They traded up to get him.

He played and sat out almost all of last year with a wrist injury.

Silly to try and compare Bracco with Brown.

He was the best player on the ice last night. I have no doubt competition stiffens. I also think he still has another gear under the hood.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Boyle > Marleau :dopes, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Sep 24 @ 10:45 AM ET
Sens really believe in Brown. They traded up to get him.

He played and sat out almost all of last year with a wrist injury.

Silly to try and compare Bracco with Brown.

He was the best player on the ice last night. I have no doubt competition stiffens. I also think he still has another gear under the hood.

- spatso



Of course it is, because it doesn't put brown into a good light.

GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Ahead By A Century, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Sep 24 @ 10:46 AM ET
Sens really believe in Brown. They traded up to get him.

He played and sat out almost all of last year with a wrist injury.

Silly to try and compare Bracco with Brown.

He was the best player on the ice last night. I have no doubt competition stiffens. I also think he still has another gear under the hood.

- spatso


They traded up one spot and the team they traded with didn't want him. They lost that trade by default.

You're right. It is silly to try and compare Bracco to Brown. Bracco has accomplished more, to date.
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Ahead By A Century, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Sep 24 @ 10:47 AM ET
Of course it is, because it doesn't put brown into a good light.
- burn




Beat me to it.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: everyday i see my dream
Joined: 03.14.2014

Sep 24 @ 11:15 AM ET
You realize the Leafs already paid out more than 50% of his actual salary.

Phaneuf was a warrior for the Sens. No playoff run last year without him. Leafs did not have a Dman in the playoffs that came anywhere close to Phaneuf's compete and contribution levels.

It astounds me that so many Leaf fans are so shallow. Phaneuf competed hard every night for the Leafs. You know there were some nights out there where he was the only one who seemed to really care.

He comes to the Sens, he is playing great hockey, the team is having great success and Leaf fans just want him to fail. In fact, they are consistently bitter when it comes to success he has had.

I think this tell us something about Leaf fans.

- spatso


Careful, dotard.

You're teetering on shattenkirk for 8 years and $65m stupid.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: degenerate gamblers like yourself usually end up getting the big payoff. just keep at it.
Joined: 06.30.2006

Sep 24 @ 11:49 AM ET
Sens really believe in Brown. They traded up to get him.

He played and sat out almost all of last year with a wrist injury.

Silly to try and compare Bracco with Brown.

He was the best player on the ice last night. I have no doubt competition stiffens. I also think he still has another gear under the hood.

- spatso


preseason

pre-season

Pre
Season

PRE. SEASON.

spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Sep 24 @ 12:32 PM ET
preseason

pre-season

Pre
Season

PRE. SEASON.

- Aetherial


Yes, we know you guys don't even think the playoffs matter.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: degenerate gamblers like yourself usually end up getting the big payoff. just keep at it.
Joined: 06.30.2006

Sep 24 @ 12:35 PM ET
Yes, we know you guys don't even think the playoffs matter.
- spatso
0

0 cups

ZERO cups

zero

ever

zero championships

zero

any major pro sport

ever

zero right to brag.

Learn this. Live it.

When your city gets off the schneid of life, then *maybe* (but probably not) you will have a right to chirp someone else; like maybe Peoria or Kenora or Elliot Lake.

burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Boyle > Marleau :dopes, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Sep 24 @ 12:36 PM ET
Yes, we know you guys don't even think the playoffs matter.
- spatso




So butt hurt. It's funny.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Sep 24 @ 12:50 PM ET
anyone have the preseason standings? hoping the Leafs can grab a wild card spot and make the preseason playoffs.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Sep 24 @ 12:58 PM ET
0

0 cups

ZERO cups

zero

ever

zero championships

zero

any major pro sport

ever

zero right to brag.

Learn this. Live it.

When your city gets off the schneid of life, then *maybe* (but probably not) you will have a right to chirp someone else; like maybe Peoria or Kenora or Elliot Lake.


- Aetherial


Did you know that Toronto once had the world's tallest free standing structure (CN Tower) until it was surpassed by a communications tower build in Plosk, Poland. Then Toronto fans could cheer we are #2 (just behind Plosk). Since then many structures have been added that are far taller than Plosk.

Anyway, the point is, there is a reason why Leaf fans are chanting we won a Cup 50 years ago. It is not pretty, but it is all you have.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Boyle > Marleau :dopes, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Sep 24 @ 1:00 PM ET
anyone have the preseason standings? hoping the Leafs can grab a wild card spot and make the preseason playoffs.
- systemtool



burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Boyle > Marleau :dopes, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Sep 24 @ 1:09 PM ET
Did you know that Toronto once had the world's tallest free standing structure (CN Tower) until it was surpassed by a communications tower build in Plosk, Poland. Then Toronto fans could cheer we are #2 (just behind Plosk). Since then many structures have been added that are far taller than Plosk.

Anyway, the point is, there is a reason why Leaf fans are chanting we won a Cup 50 years ago. It is not pretty, but it is all you have.

- spatso



you're such a moron, way to skirt the comments made by the other poster.

So pathetic.
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Sep 24 @ 2:08 PM ET
If you assume that MacArthur and White are on injury reserve come October 5 there is one forward roster spot available. Hard to believe that they would not give the spot to Brown. He has scored coaches goals. He stays hard on the puck in front of the net and he is very hard to move. Obviously he has the great hands and vision. Lots of kids do. More important is if he can handle the abuse around the net. When he is finished growing into his body he is going to be pushing 6'7" and weigh in at +240lbs. No longer is Brown available in a trade for Duchene.

Formenton is having an amazing camp. But he is very young. Had he been born two days later he would not have qualified for this year's draft. His speed and physical play are very impressive. Interesting to see Brown and Formenton used on the penalty kill.

There is no opening on D (I assume Karlsson starts on opening night). All the roster spots are filled. Somebody is going to have to be moved to make room for Chabot. Ceci playing with Oduya was real good. Claesson plays with Karlsson. Phaneuf plays with Chabot. So, Borowiecki and Wideman are being pushed to the edges. I think they want to keep Harpur. Great camp.

- spatso



doubt very much that Brown stays with the Senators this season. At the most he gets a few games, if that, before he returns to junior.
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Sep 24 @ 2:10 PM ET
Whats the waiver situation with your defense?
- Aetherial



Pretty sure all 7 D men signed to one way NHL contracts would have to clear waivers.
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Sep 24 @ 2:12 PM ET
I agree with that. That's why I'll never hate Phaneuf. Played his ass off to the best of his abilities.

But that doesn't change the fact that he has lost another step in his game. He's not as good/fast as he was when he was with the Leafs and he was getting slow with us.

- GreatGigInTheSky



Agree with you take ........... and would also like to add that the games, and teams are all getting faster in general, so it shows with players of his age.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: degenerate gamblers like yourself usually end up getting the big payoff. just keep at it.
Joined: 06.30.2006

Sep 24 @ 2:22 PM ET
Pretty sure all 7 D men signed to one way NHL contracts would have to clear waivers.
- D0PPELGANGER


So a trade impending if you want to keep Chabot up I assume?
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