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D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Sep 23 @ 6:19 AM ET
i have a feeling the sabres could take the sens or leafs spot in the playoffs this season. that team has a lot of talent most of it young. canes have the potential to steal a wild card spot but are likely a year or two away. blue jackets imo take a step back. something about them isnt right with me.
- systemtool




Oh I think you're right. Just because the two Ontario teams made the playoffs last spring, I don't think they're favourites to return to the playoffs.

Ottawa, for example, only made the playoffs by 4 points (I think) and with Karlsson missing in the neighbourhood of 10 games, it quite possible that alone will put their playoff aspirations in jeporady.
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Sep 23 @ 6:22 AM ET
This is the kind of post that reminds us why everyone has been laughing at Leaf fans for more than 50 years.
- spatso




I think you're guilty of pumping the tires of a few Senator prospect yourself.

Did you not (earlier) proclaim that 5 rookies could possibly make the Sens line up this season?

Just wondering which five current Senators would be displaced by those five rookies?
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: degenerate gamblers like yourself usually end up getting the big payoff. just keep at it.
Joined: 06.30.2006

Sep 23 @ 8:23 AM ET
I think you're guilty of pumping the tires of a few Senator prospect yourself.

Did you not (earlier) proclaim that 5 rookies could possibly make the Sens line up this season?

Just wondering which five current Senators would be displaced by those five rookies?

- D0PPELGANGER


I am not sure how you sell to your fans or the team, that the team that took Pitt to game 7 is going to turn over 5 players.

I guess MacArthur and Methot are 2, but Burrows is back now and he wasn't there most of the playoffs?

After your thoughts about the defense, I am guessing maybe White (after he returns), and maybe one other. Chabot may get the 9 game look? if Karlsson doesn't start the season or they send him down and use the 9 games for callups?

Ottawa has a pretty veteran roster. Unless they are turning it all over, and clearly they aren't, there probably won't be many rookies on the team.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Sep 23 @ 8:36 AM ET
When the shoe fits .......
- D0PPELGANGER


why do you only have one shoe?
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Sep 23 @ 8:39 AM ET
Oh I think you're right. Just because the two Ontario teams made the playoffs last spring, I don't think they're favourites to return to the playoffs.

Ottawa, for example, only made the playoffs by 4 points (I think) and with Karlsson missing in the neighbourhood of 10 games, it quite possible that alone will put their playoff aspirations in jeporady.

- D0PPELGANGER


Agreed. Neither are a lock. Alot of things can go wrong for them while alot go right for other teams. cant wait for the season to start, bored of preseason already.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Sep 23 @ 8:40 AM ET
I am not sure how you sell to your fans or the team, that the team that took Pitt to game 7 is going to turn over 5 players.

I guess MacArthur and Methot are 2, but Burrows is back now and he wasn't there most of the playoffs?

After your thoughts about the defense, I am guessing maybe White (after he returns), and maybe one other. Chabot may get the 9 game look? if Karlsson doesn't start the season or they send him down and use the 9 games for callups?

Ottawa has a pretty veteran roster. Unless they are turning it all over, and clearly they aren't, there probably won't be many rookies on the team.

- Aetherial



Chabot looks damn close to NHL ready. I think he makes the club.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Boyle > Marleau :dopes, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Sep 23 @ 8:44 AM ET

- GreatGigInTheSky



This guy is an idiot......he actually thinks that.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Boyle > Marleau :dopes, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Sep 23 @ 8:47 AM ET
This is the kind of post that reminds us why everyone has been laughing at Leaf fans for more than 50 years.
- spatso





You just said phanuef would be leafs best dman, and you're saying people are laughing at leaf fans?
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Boyle > Marleau :dopes, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Sep 23 @ 8:51 AM ET
Right now the Senators don't want to get rid of him ........... maybe in a year or two, but not now.
- D0PPELGANGER



How do you figure? They tried desperately to move him this summer several times. They asked him to waive to be exposed in expansion draft and tried to trade him with salary retained and it was still goin get on cost thrm a prospect to move him.

Yeah they don't want to "move him now" because they tried and didn't like the cost.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: everyday i see my dream
Joined: 03.14.2014

Sep 23 @ 9:11 AM ET
When the shoe fits .......
- D0PPELGANGER


Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: everyday i see my dream
Joined: 03.14.2014

Sep 23 @ 9:12 AM ET
Hossa has already had his independent medical examination. Lupul is next. I don't see much changing on Hossa or Lupul.

But, it is a clear signal that the league is going to become more engaged where there are abuses of the salary cap intent through the use of the LTIR.

Bettman has never liked Lamerello and the Leafs need to tread carefully.

- spatso


Okay, dotard.
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Ahead By A Century, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Sep 23 @ 9:53 AM ET
This is the kind of post that reminds us why everyone has been laughing at Leaf fans for more than 50 years.
- spatso


Every post you make reminds everyone why we laugh at you.
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Ahead By A Century, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Sep 23 @ 9:55 AM ET
Rielly, Zaitsev, Gardiner, Hainsey - definitely better


Borgman, Rosen, Dermott, Liljergen- probably even(for now)

- Feeling Glucky?


I'd probably move Hainsey to the second level and Dermott up to the first.

And if Borgman keeps playing the way he is this preseason, then I'd move him up, too.
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Ahead By A Century, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Sep 23 @ 9:57 AM ET
This guy is an idiot......he actually thinks that.
- burn


It's incredible.

I don't hate Phaneuf like a lot of people on here do, but being realistic, he's lost a step from the few steps he's lost already.

And the games speed is only going one way; faster.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Boyle > Marleau :dopes, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Sep 23 @ 10:01 AM ET
It's incredible.

I don't hate Phaneuf like a lot of people on here do, but being realistic, he's lost a step from the few steps he's lost already.

And the games speed is only going one way; faster.

- GreatGigInTheSky



Let's not forget that phanuef played for the leafs and was well behind the likes of Reilly and gardiner at least at the time he was dumped on the sens.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Sep 23 @ 10:10 AM ET
Chabot looks damn close to NHL ready. I think he makes the club.
- systemtool

I see a lot of Senators fans worried that Doronion might trade him for Duchene.

I doubt it’d happen but I don’t think we should just assume that we’ve already seen the worst out of him. We have no way of knowing how deep the ineptitude goes. Don’t get me wrong, I think he’s the right GM for Ottawa, but I think someone may have screwed up!
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Sep 23 @ 10:12 AM ET
It's incredible.

I don't hate Phaneuf like a lot of people on here do, but being realistic, he's lost a step from the few steps he's lost already.

And the games speed is only going one way; faster.

- GreatGigInTheSky

I don’t hate him by any means. But there was also a time I wanted Fehr on the team.

Players in their 30s are like boots or hearts. Once they start, they really fall apart.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: degenerate gamblers like yourself usually end up getting the big payoff. just keep at it.
Joined: 06.30.2006

Sep 23 @ 2:26 PM ET
Karlsson about to make a "miracle" return.

I'm shocked.


burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Boyle > Marleau :dopes, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Sep 23 @ 2:29 PM ET
Karlsson about to make a "miracle" return.

I'm shocked.

- Aetherial



GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Ahead By A Century, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Sep 23 @ 2:53 PM ET
Karlsson about to make a "miracle" return.

I'm shocked.

- Aetherial


systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Sep 23 @ 3:57 PM ET
Karlsson about to make a "miracle" return.

I'm shocked.

- Aetherial



probably in november. late october maybe.
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The Hawks rent out Hossa's jock to teams with a cap problem
Joined: 04.03.2016

Sep 23 @ 4:13 PM ET
Hossa has already had his independent medical examination. Lupul is next. I don't see much changing on Hossa or Lupul.

But, it is a clear signal that the league is going to become more engaged where there are abuses of the salary cap intent through the use of the LTIR.

Bettman has never liked Lamerello and the Leafs need to tread carefully.

- spatso


Baloney! First of all as of September 21 there were no independent doctor's tests on Hossa - you just made that up - among other things.

As far as Bettman not liking Lou or the Leafs, he better get used to kissing the ring, because Bettman needs the Leafs (unlike the Sens) much much more than the Leafs need him. They are a dynamic part of the NHL economy unlike Ottawa. Without the money making teams like the Leafs, Habs, Bruins, Hawks, Rangers - Ottawa may have an AHL franchise but not much else.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Sep 23 @ 4:49 PM ET
Baloney! First of all as of September 21 there were no independent doctor's tests on Hossa - you just made that up - among other things.

As far as Bettman not liking Lou or the Leafs, he better get used to kissing the ring, because Bettman needs the Leafs (unlike the Sens) much much more than the Leafs need him. They are a dynamic part of the NHL economy unlike Ottawa. Without the money making teams like the Leafs, Habs, Bruins, Hawks, Rangers - Ottawa may have an AHL franchise but not much else.

- winsix


So sad, he was examined several days agp. Do you guys not follow anything other than Leaf press releases?

https://www.thescore.com/news/1380451
daeth
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: when it's a 3 taco-bell town, maybe they'll be ready, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Sep 23 @ 4:52 PM ET
Karlsson about to make a "miracle" return.

I'm shocked.

- Aetherial

Nobody perfectly predicted this.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Sep 23 @ 6:14 PM ET
I am not sure how you sell to your fans or the team, that the team that took Pitt to game 7 is going to turn over 5 players.

I guess MacArthur and Methot are 2, but Burrows is back now and he wasn't there most of the playoffs?

After your thoughts about the defense, I am guessing maybe White (after he returns), and maybe one other. Chabot may get the 9 game look? if Karlsson doesn't start the season or they send him down and use the 9 games for callups?

Ottawa has a pretty veteran roster. Unless they are turning it all over, and clearly they aren't, there probably won't be many rookies on the team.

- Aetherial


Before training camp started I thought six rookies had a shot at some regular season ice time. The forwards (in order of probability)

White
Brown
Chlapik

Dmen in order of probability

Harpur
Chabot
Englund

I notice that both Englund and Jaros have been sent down to the Belleville roster. Maybe Jaros moves ahead of Englund on possible call ups.

I think if the season starts today White is on injured reserve. Brown is on the main roster. Chlapik is assigned to Belleville.

Harpur and Chabot are on the roster opening night.
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