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walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Liljegren tanked to get the Leafs
Joined: 07.14.2011

Sep 15 @ 11:41 AM ET
Not even close. Sportsnet can pump their numbers all they want but unless you include French media into the calculations it does not mean anything. Sportsnet would have had to play really carefully with the question in order to get a 1% number over the Canadiens. Oh, let me guess, they only asked the question in English.
- spatso



Seriously, what the (frank) is wrong with you?
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Sep 15 @ 11:55 AM ET
It appears that English history and media has presented it along those lines.
- spatso

Don't blame the media for your racist fantasies.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Boyle > Marleau :dopes, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Sep 15 @ 11:55 AM ET


Seriously, what the (frank) is wrong with you?

- walshyleafsfan



Unreal😂
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Sep 15 @ 12:04 PM ET


Seriously, what the (frank) is wrong with you?

- walshyleafsfan


Look most of you guys live in a bubble. It is an echo chamber that produces the same news and reenforces the same messages. So, Sportsnet produces a study that reenforces the message they want promoted.

But there are lots of criteria for evaluating popularity and when you bridge the language differentials and incorporate them into your survey Montreal is far and away the most popular NHL franchise. It is not even close.

Active Twitter followers is a strong proxy in trying to understand interest or popularity.

The Top 10 NHL team accounts:

Montreal Canadiens (@CanadiensMTL)
Pittsburgh Penguins (@penguins)
Chicago Blackhawks (@NHLBlackhawks)
New York Rangers (@NYRangers)
Toronto Maple Leafs (@MapleLeafs)
Tampa Bay Lightning (@TBLightning)
Detroit Red Wings (@DetroitRedWings)
Columbus Blue Jackets (@BlueJacketsNHL)
Edmonton Oilers (@EdmontonOilers)
Boston Bruins (@NHLBruins)

The popularity of the Leafs is an illusion perpetuated by the Southern Ontario media because it is in the interest of the Southern Ontario media strategy to maintain that myth. Most people don't realize that for many years the Senators were blacked out in the Ottawa market on Saturday night because the Southern Ontario media wanted a national game concept.

For years, as a Leaf fan, I had to endure the backlash of local people against the Leafs. It is hard to explain how much they are despised. Having them as the most hated team in hockey is not bad. People still watch hoping to see them lose.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: everyday i see my dream
Joined: 03.14.2014

Sep 15 @ 12:08 PM ET
Look most of you guys live in a bubble. It is an echo chamber that produces the same news and reenforces the same messages. So, Sportsnet produces a study that reenforces the message they want promoted.

But there are lots of criteria for evaluating popularity and when you bridge the language differentials and incorporate them into your survey Montreal is far and away the most popular NHL franchise. It is not even close.

Active Twitter followers is a strong proxy in trying to understand interest or popularity.

The Top 10 NHL team accounts:

Montreal Canadiens (@CanadiensMTL)
Pittsburgh Penguins (@penguins)
Chicago Blackhawks (@NHLBlackhawks)
New York Rangers (@NYRangers)
Toronto Maple Leafs (@MapleLeafs)
Tampa Bay Lightning (@TBLightning)
Detroit Red Wings (@DetroitRedWings)
Columbus Blue Jackets (@BlueJacketsNHL)
Edmonton Oilers (@EdmontonOilers)
Boston Bruins (@NHLBruins)

The popularity of the Leafs is an illusion perpetuated by the Southern Ontario media because it is in the interest of the Southern Ontario media strategy to maintain that myth. Most people don't realize that for many years the Senators were blacked out in the Ottawa market on Saturday night because the Southern Ontario media wanted a national game concept.

For years, as a Leaf fan, I had to endure the backlash of local people against the Leafs. It is hard to explain how much they are despised. Having them as the most hated team in hockey is not bad. People still watch hoping to see them lose.

- spatso



spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Sep 15 @ 12:09 PM ET

- Tumbleweed


But it felt so good when the Sens put on their spectacular playoff run!
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: everyday i see my dream
Joined: 03.14.2014

Sep 15 @ 12:15 PM ET
But it felt so good when the Sens put on their spectacular playoff run!
- spatso


and with the big-name additions of oduya, woods and vandevelde, the sens are set-up to do even better this year!
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Sep 15 @ 12:23 PM ET
and with the big-name additions of oduya, woods and vandevelde, the sens are set-up to do even better this year!
- Tumbleweed



I prefer to think that Chabot and White are more likely contributors.

And how about those Leafs signing a 38 year old to a 3 year deal and Ron Hainsay who will probably play top 4 for the Leafs. Pretty sad.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: everyday i see my dream
Joined: 03.14.2014

Sep 15 @ 12:26 PM ET
I prefer to think that Chabot and White are more likely contributors.

And how about those Leafs signing a 38 year old to a 3 year deal and Ron Hainsay who will probably play top 4 for the Leafs. Pretty sad.

- spatso


white is poop

dermott will outscore chabot this year. book it.

but i did forget about nate thompson!
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: Brian Boyle is better than Patrick Marleau - Dopps, SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Sep 15 @ 12:38 PM ET
Look most of you guys live in a bubble. It is an echo chamber that produces the same news and reenforces the same messages. So, Sportsnet produces a study that reenforces the message they want promoted.

But there are lots of criteria for evaluating popularity and when you bridge the language differentials and incorporate them into your survey Montreal is far and away the most popular NHL franchise. It is not even close.

Active Twitter followers is a strong proxy in trying to understand interest or popularity.

The Top 10 NHL team accounts:

Montreal Canadiens (@CanadiensMTL)
Pittsburgh Penguins (@penguins)
Chicago Blackhawks (@NHLBlackhawks)
New York Rangers (@NYRangers)
Toronto Maple Leafs (@MapleLeafs)
Tampa Bay Lightning (@TBLightning)
Detroit Red Wings (@DetroitRedWings)
Columbus Blue Jackets (@BlueJacketsNHL)
Edmonton Oilers (@EdmontonOilers)
Boston Bruins (@NHLBruins)

The popularity of the Leafs is an illusion perpetuated by the Southern Ontario media because it is in the interest of the Southern Ontario media strategy to maintain that myth. Most people don't realize that for many years the Senators were blacked out in the Ottawa market on Saturday night because the Southern Ontario media wanted a national game concept.

For years, as a Leaf fan, I had to endure the backlash of local people against the Leafs. It is hard to explain how much they are despised. Having them as the most hated team in hockey is not bad. People still watch hoping to see them lose.

- spatso


People follow the blue jackets because they're funny.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: everyday i see my dream
Joined: 03.14.2014

Sep 15 @ 12:40 PM ET
People follow the blue jackets because they're funny.
- BINGO!


twitter follows are the best way to find out popularity.

but only when actual surveys don't give you the results that fit your narrative.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: Brian Boyle is better than Patrick Marleau - Dopps, SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Sep 15 @ 12:42 PM ET
twitter follows are the best way to find out popularity.

but only when actual surveys don't give you the results that fit your narrative.

- Tumbleweed


I mean it's pretty clear they're more popular than the Bruins or Oilers.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Boyle > Marleau :dopes, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Sep 15 @ 12:51 PM ET
How on earth can someone dismiss one poll, and then pump the tires of another poll?

there is no depth this dolt wont dive to to prove his idiocy.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Boyle > Marleau :dopes, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Sep 15 @ 12:53 PM ET
Do most people care that the sens were blacked out? Did anyone even notice ?
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: everyday i see my dream
Joined: 03.14.2014

Sep 15 @ 12:54 PM ET
I mean it's pretty clear they're more popular than the Bruins or Oilers.
- BINGO!


i'm surprised they are not higher on the list.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Boyle > Marleau :dopes, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Sep 15 @ 12:58 PM ET
you know what a good way to show popularity?

- Revenue?

- Merchandise sales?

- Veiwership?

- Season ticket wait list?

- Attendance?

- Road attendance?

- Home team jack the price on special games (like when the leafs come to town, and sell at deep discounts when the sens are in town)?

- polls (all of them, unless they don't fit your narrative or they add up to 100%)?

Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: everyday i see my dream
Joined: 03.14.2014

Sep 15 @ 1:01 PM ET
you know what a good way to show popularity?

- Revenue?

- Merchandise sales?

- Veiwership?

- Season ticket wait list?

- Attendance?

- Road attendance?

- Home team jack the price on special games (like when the leafs come to town, and sell at deep discounts when the sens are in town)?

- polls (all of them, unless they don't fit your narrative or they add up to 100%)?

- burn


shut up.

jackets are the 8th most popular team in the league. twitter says so.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Boyle > Marleau :dopes, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Sep 15 @ 1:02 PM ET
Does anyone with at least a single braincell think that the media is constantly showing the leafs, despite they're being less popular? Does anyone beleive that these mega sports stations are deliberately losing money trying to force their agenda? Or is it possible they are making more money by showing the leafs?

Spatso trying to justify his hate and just keeps looking dumber by the second
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Boyle > Marleau :dopes, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Sep 15 @ 1:04 PM ET
shut up.

jackets are the 8th most popular team in the league. twitter says so.

- Tumbleweed


Amazing
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: everyday i see my dream
Joined: 03.14.2014

Sep 15 @ 1:04 PM ET
Does anyone with at least a single braincell think that the media is constantly showing the leafs, despite they're being less popular? Does anyone beleive that these mega sports stations are deliberately losing money trying to force their agenda? Or is it possible they are making more money by showing the leafs?

Spatso trying to justify his hate and just keeps looking dumber by the second

- burn


it's all a big conspiracy to hold back the blue jackets.

BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: Brian Boyle is better than Patrick Marleau - Dopps, SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Sep 15 @ 1:17 PM ET
Does anyone with at least a single braincell think that the media is constantly showing the leafs, despite they're being less popular? Does anyone beleive that these mega sports stations are deliberately losing money trying to force their agenda? Or is it possible they are making more money by showing the leafs?

Spatso trying to justify his hate and just keeps looking dumber by the second

- burn


those people get paid nothing they just live in my tv and can hear me when I yell at them
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver is ashamed to select Jake Virtanen
Joined: 04.03.2016

Sep 15 @ 1:53 PM ET
it's all a big conspiracy to hold back the blue jackets.
- Tumbleweed



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Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: everyday i see my dream
Joined: 03.14.2014

Sep 15 @ 1:59 PM ET
[quote=winsix]

it's a media conspiracy i tells ya!
daeth
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: What year is this?, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Sep 15 @ 2:05 PM ET
Look most of you guys live in a bubble. It is an echo chamber that produces the same news and reenforces the same messages. So, Sportsnet produces a study that reenforces the message they want promoted.

But there are lots of criteria for evaluating popularity and when you bridge the language differentials and incorporate them into your survey Montreal is far and away the most popular NHL franchise. It is not even close.

Active Twitter followers is a strong proxy in trying to understand interest or popularity.

The Top 10 NHL team accounts:

Montreal Canadiens (@CanadiensMTL)
Pittsburgh Penguins (@penguins)
Chicago Blackhawks (@NHLBlackhawks)
New York Rangers (@NYRangers)
Toronto Maple Leafs (@MapleLeafs)
Tampa Bay Lightning (@TBLightning)
Detroit Red Wings (@DetroitRedWings)
Columbus Blue Jackets (@BlueJacketsNHL)
Edmonton Oilers (@EdmontonOilers)
Boston Bruins (@NHLBruins)

The popularity of the Leafs is an illusion perpetuated by the Southern Ontario media because it is in the interest of the Southern Ontario media strategy to maintain that myth. Most people don't realize that for many years the Senators were blacked out in the Ottawa market on Saturday night because the Southern Ontario media wanted a national game concept.

For years, as a Leaf fan, I had to endure the backlash of local people against the Leafs. It is hard to explain how much they are despised. Having them as the most hated team in hockey is not bad. People still watch hoping to see them lose.

- spatso

Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: everyday i see my dream
Joined: 03.14.2014

Sep 15 @ 2:07 PM ET

- daeth

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