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D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Sep 5 @ 8:04 AM ET
ive said the sens had a good season and a great Cinderella run in the playoffs. Despite that i feel the Leafs are in a better situation over all as a team.

this thread is about which team is in a better situation. not who had a better season. sens had the better season, leafs have the better situation.

its simple do0Opps. you going into the past was your own doing and it back fired on you. just like your use of the word "laud" back fired. and like how you thought the leafs never played in an ecf when they did. all your own doing.

- systemtool




So it's all about your opinion .............. and you as a leaf fan will always see the leafs in a better situation ........... as you did when they finished dead freaking last in the league ........ so it's pointless to discuss this with you ............ as there is no scenario, in your spinning mind, when you could ever bring yourself to entertain the fact that perhaps, just maybe, the Senators would be in a better situation.

I'll bet that if the Senators had advanced to the Finals and won the Cup, even then you would not have the ability to state that they were in a better situation, even if they were circling the ice, passing the Cup around.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Sep 5 @ 8:27 AM ET
So it's all about your opinion .............. and you as a leaf fan will always see the leafs in a better situation ........... as you did when they finished dead freaking last in the league ........ so it's pointless to discuss this with you ............ as there is no scenario, in your spinning mind, when you could ever bring yourself to entertain the fact that perhaps, just maybe, the Senators would be in a better situation.

I'll bet that if the Senators had advanced to the Finals and won the Cup, even then you would not have the ability to state that they were in a better situation, even if they were circling the ice, passing the Cup around.

- D0PPELGANGER



what happened to lists?

they didnt win a cup. sit down old man. your hypothetical scenarios are just silly talk.

Yes even dead last they were in a better situation. there is more than jist on ice performance that comprises a teams situation.

leafs have better owners, better management, better coaching, more depth, more skill, more youth, more money. but there was a rebuilding process they stuck to that called for some on ice set backs to get into the better situation. rhese are all facts.

the hockey world knows the leafs are in a better situation. so do you. but unlike you i dont need you to agree to it for it to be true.
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver is ashamed to select Jake Virtanen
Joined: 04.03.2016

Sep 5 @ 9:44 AM ET
what happened to lists?

they didnt win a cup. sit down old man. your hypothetical scenarios are just silly talk.

Yes even dead last they were in a better situation. there is more than jist on ice performance that comprises a teams situation.

leafs have better owners, better management, better coaching, more depth, more skill, more youth, more money. but there was a rebuilding process they stuck to that called for some on ice set backs to get into the better situation. rhese are all facts.

the hockey world knows the leafs are in a better situation. so do you. but unlike you i dont need you to agree to it for it to be true.

- systemtool

burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Boyle > Marleau :dopes, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Sep 5 @ 9:46 AM ET
what happened to lists?

they didnt win a cup. sit down old man. your hypothetical scenarios are just silly talk.

Yes even dead last they were in a better situation. there is more than jist on ice performance that comprises a teams situation.

leafs have better owners, better management, better coaching, more depth, more skill, more youth, more money. but there was a rebuilding process they stuck to that called for some on ice set backs to get into the better situation. rhese are all facts.

the hockey world knows the leafs are in a better situation. so do you. but unlike you i dont need you to agree to it for it to be true.

- systemtool


sens fans triggered
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: he's 35, time to be fart the messenger boy.
Joined: 06.30.2006

Sep 5 @ 12:37 PM ET
So it's all about your opinion .............. and you as a leaf fan will always see the leafs in a better situation ........... as you did when they finished dead freaking last in the league ........ so it's pointless to discuss this with you ............ as there is no scenario, in your spinning mind, when you could ever bring yourself to entertain the fact that perhaps, just maybe, the Senators would be in a better situation.

I'll bet that if the Senators had advanced to the Finals and won the Cup, even then you would not have the ability to state that they were in a better situation, even if they were circling the ice, passing the Cup around.

- D0PPELGANGER


He provided many links to other people's opinions... and none of the sources were triggered Sens fans.

I guess we will never know about your last comment about the Sens winning the cup. The operative word there is "never".


senstroll
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Sens Suck, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Sep 5 @ 1:57 PM ET
the guy thats posts the championship banners from 1912 says I live in the present ........ not the past.


lol
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Boyle > Marleau :dopes, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Sep 5 @ 2:02 PM ET
the guy thats posts the championship banners from 1912 says I live in the present ........ not the past.


lol

- senstroll



systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Sep 5 @ 2:20 PM ET
He provided many links to other people's opinions... and none of the sources were triggered Sens fans.

I guess we will never know about your last comment about the Sens winning the cup. The operative word there is "never".

- Aetherial



when your team goes into a season where the head coach tells the fans and media "there will be pain" the team obviously is aware they dont expext to win many games. Part of a bigger plan and process. Paid off in spades.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: he's 35, time to be fart the messenger boy.
Joined: 06.30.2006

Sep 5 @ 3:41 PM ET
when your team goes into a season where the head coach tells the fans and media "there will be pain" the team obviously is aware they dont expext to win many games. Part of a bigger plan and process. Paid off in spades.
- systemtool


Sens fans enjoying their last gasp at being able to claim superiority over the Leafs.

They are making dumber arguments every day. It must be tough to fight the good fight when the painful reality is cock-slapping you in the face.


systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Sep 5 @ 3:44 PM ET
Sens fans enjoying their last gasp at being able to claim superiority over the Leafs.

They are making dumber arguments every day. It must be tough to fight the good fight when the painful reality is cock-slapping you in the face.

- Aetherial



i think theyll compete again this season. but beyond that its questionable. the reaction from the sens fans will be interesting.
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Sep 5 @ 3:46 PM ET
He provided many links to other people's opinions... and none of the sources were triggered Sens fans.

I guess we will never know about your last comment about the Sens winning the cup. The operative word there is "never".

- Aetherial



Ottawa has won their fair share of Cups, and the banners are there for all to see.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: Brian Boyle is better than Patrick Marleau - Dopps, SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Sep 5 @ 3:52 PM ET
Ottawa has won their fair share of Cups, and the banners are there for all to see.
- D0PPELGANGER


Right an the Jets should retire Teemu Selanne's number, right?
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver is ashamed to select Jake Virtanen
Joined: 04.03.2016

Sep 5 @ 4:15 PM ET
Ottawa has won their fair share of Cups, and the banners are there for all to see.
- D0PPELGANGER



The Ottawa Senators are a team in the National Hockey League that has played since 1992.
Ottawa Senators can also refer to:
Ottawa Senators (CWHL) - current CWHL team
Ottawa Jr. Senators - junior-level team, founded in 1980.
Ottawa Senators (original) - History of Ottawa Hockey Club, senior-level team which played from 1883, and operated as the NHL Senators until 1934. (1883–1954).
Ottawa Senators (senior hockey) - Second phase of Ottawa Hockey Club, senior-level amateur/semi-pro team, which won the Allan Cup in 1949. (1934–1954)
Ottawa Senators (FHL) - professional team which played in 1908–09.
From Wikipedia


Historically Speaking - and we are going back a long way here. Technically, Ottawa won 4 stanley cups when they played in the NHL (formed in 1917) Prior to 1917 cannot be included as it was a 2 or 3 game goal total challenge not a championship.

That would mean the cups won by Ottawa Senators were in 1920, 21, 23 and 27. Early cups were various formats, 1920 and 21 were 5 games and 23 and 27 were only 3 games. These are facts that cannot be denied.

Now, you were mocking Leafs and their fans who have not won a cup in 50 years, 1927 would put the Sens drought at 90 years. And your fair share of cups?????????

Please ....... Wake UP!

Further the current Senators have nothing to do with original Senators. The Leafs have had a continuous professional team in Toronto for 100 years. Have the Quebec Nordiques won a stanley cup? - The Avalanche were the Nordiques weren't they? (not including the 1912 and 13 pre NHL cups)

systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Sep 5 @ 4:58 PM ET
Historically Speaking - and we are going back a long way here. Technically, Ottawa won 4 stanley cups when they played in the NHL (formed in 1917) Prior to 1917 cannot be included as it was a 2 or 3 game goal total challenge not a championship.

That would mean the cups won by Ottawa Senators were in 1920, 21, 23 and 27. Early cups were various formats, 1920 and 21 were 5 games and 23 and 27 were only 3 games. These are facts that cannot be denied.

Now, you were mocking Leafs and their fans who have not won a cup in 50 years, 1927 would put the Sens drought at 90 years. And your fair share of cups?????????

Please ....... Wake UP!

Further the current Senators have nothing to do with original Senators. The Leafs have had a continuous professional team in Toronto for 100 years. Have the Quebec Nordiques won a stanley cup? - The Avalanche were the Nordiques weren't they? (not including the 1912 and 13 pre NHL cups)

- winsix



d0oOpps and spatso were both alive for the LEAFS winning the cup. but not alive for the unicorn sens cup wins. but we live in the prasent. not the pest. for the record, im not "lauding" the sens.
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver is ashamed to select Jake Virtanen
Joined: 04.03.2016

Sep 5 @ 6:19 PM ET
d0oOpps and spatso were both alive for the LEAFS winning the cup. but not alive for the unicorn sens cup wins. but we live in the prasent. not the pest. for the record, im not "lauding" the sens.
- systemtool



But they were so much better than the Leafs for the last 100 years.


GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Ahead By A Century, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Sep 5 @ 7:54 PM ET
i think theyll compete again this season. but beyond that its questionable. the reaction from the sens fans will be interesting.
- systemtool


I'd honestly be shocked if they made the playoffs this season.

I think there's 3/4 teams in our division better than them and more than that in the Metro.

They're only as good as their goaltending and I can't see how Anderson can play as well as he did last season. And Condom definitely can't.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Sep 6 @ 7:43 AM ET
I'd honestly be shocked if they made the playoffs this season.

I think there's 3/4 teams in our division better than them and more than that in the Metro.

They're only as good as their goaltending and I can't see how Anderson can play as well as he did last season. And Condom definitely can't.

- GreatGigInTheSky


The Senators were rebuilt last year around Karlsson. Not many people realize how good they were once they hit the third period. I believe the Senators are more like the team that we saw in the playoffs rather than the regular season.

I believe the Sens fight with Tampa for 1st in the Division. Talk is fun...but scoreboard begins in a little over three weeks.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Sep 6 @ 8:17 AM ET
The Senators were rebuilt last year around Karlsson. Not many people realize how good they were once they hit the third period. I believe the Senators are more like the team that we saw in the playoffs rather than the regular season.

I believe the Sens fight with Tampa for 1st in the Division. Talk is fun...but scoreboard begins in a little over three weeks.

- spatso

Agreed. The senators are definitely the team we saw in the playoffs, that was only able to win against teams decimated by injury.

This likely has to do with the complete lack of talent in the forward group, a d-corps that features a guy who'd be bottom pairing on most teams as their second best defender(making 7Mil!) and a tight budget that prevents improvement.

Not to mention a dearth of young talent at all positions.


We can all agree with this.
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Sep 6 @ 8:36 AM ET
Historically Speaking - and we are going back a long way here. Technically, Ottawa won 4 stanley cups when they played in the NHL (formed in 1917) Prior to 1917 cannot be included as it was a 2 or 3 game goal total challenge not a championship.

That would mean the cups won by Ottawa Senators were in 1920, 21, 23 and 27. Early cups were various formats, 1920 and 21 were 5 games and 23 and 27 were only 3 games. These are facts that cannot be denied.

Now, you were mocking Leafs and their fans who have not won a cup in 50 years, 1927 would put the Sens drought at 90 years. And your fair share of cups?????????

Please ....... Wake UP!

Further the current Senators have nothing to do with original Senators. The Leafs have had a continuous professional team in Toronto for 100 years. Have the Quebec Nordiques won a stanley cup? - The Avalanche were the Nordiques weren't they? (not including the 1912 and 13 pre NHL cups)

- winsix











The Ottawa Senator Stanley Cup winning teams, are engraved on the Stanley Cup a number of times, no one but leaf fans care that a team, representing Ottawa, was not a continuous franchise or whatever you're making a big deal about.


It would be like making a big deal about ownership changes, or some other stupid innocuous point.



If Stanley Cup winning teams that won before the NHL was formed, don't count, then why have the names of those teams not been removed?

Suffice it to say they count just as much as any Cup won after the NHL was formed.




The NHL recognizes the Eleven Stanley Cup Champions banners that Hang in the CTC rafters.


the complete list of Stanley Cup MVPs, and more.

2015-16 - Pittsburgh Penguins​

2014-15 - Chicago Blackhawks​​

2013-14 - Los Angeles Kings

2012-13 - Chicago Blackhawks

2011-12 - Los Angeles Kings

2010-11 - Boston Bruins

2009-10 - Chicago Blackhawks

2008-09 - Pittsburgh Penguins

2007-08 - Detroit Red Wings

2006-07 - Anaheim Ducks

2005-06 - Carolina Hurricanes

2003-04 - Tampa Bay Lightning

2002-03 - New Jersey Devils

2001-02 - Detroit Red Wings

2000-01 - Colorado Avalanche

1999-2000 - New Jersey Devils

1998-99 - Dallas Stars

1997-98 - Detroit Red Wings

1996-97 - Detroit Red Wings

1995-96 - Colorado Avalanche

1994-95 - New Jersey Devils

1993-94 - New York Rangers

1992-93 - Montreal Canadiens

1991-92 - Pittsburgh Penguins

1990-91 - Pittsburgh Penguins

1989-90 - Edmonton Oilers

1988-89 - Calgary Flames

1987-88 - Edmonton Oilers

1986-87 - Edmonton Oilers

1985-86 - Montreal Canadiens

1984-85 - Edmonton Oilers

1983-84 - Edmonton Oilers

1982-83 - New York Islanders

1981-82 - New York Islanders

1980-81 - New York Islanders

1979-80 - New York Islanders

1978-79 - Montreal Canadiens

1977-78 - Montreal Canadiens

1976-77 - Montreal Canadiens

1975-76 - Montreal Canadiens

1974-75 - Philadelphia Flyers

1973-74 - Philadelphia Flyers

1972-73 - Montreal Canadiens

1971-72 - Boston Bruins

1970-71 - Montreal Canadiens

1969-70 - Boston Bruins

1968-69 - Montreal Canadiens

1967-68 - Montreal Canadiens

1966-67 - Toronto Maple Leafs

1965-66 - Montreal Canadiens

1964-65 - Montreal Canadiens

1963-64 - Toronto Maple Leafs

1962-63 - Toronto Maple Leafs

1961-62 - Toronto Maple Leafs

1960-61 - Chicago Blackhawks

1959-60 - Montreal Canadiens

1958-59 - Montreal Canadiens

1957-58 - Montreal Canadiens

1956-57 - Montreal Canadiens

1955-56 - Montreal Canadiens

1954-55 - Detroit Red Wings

1953-54 - Detroit Red Wings

1952-53 - Montreal Canadiens

1951-52 - Detroit Red Wings

1950-51 - Toronto Maple Leafs

1949-50 - Detroit Red Wings

1948-49 - Toronto Maple Leafs

1947-48 - Toronto Maple Leafs

1946-47 - Toronto Maple Leafs

1945-46 - Montreal Canadiens

1944-45 - Toronto Maple Leafs

1943-44 - Montreal Canadiens

1942-43 - Detroit Red Wings

1941-42 - Toronto Maple Leafs

1940-41 - Boston Bruins

1939-40 - New York Rangers

1938-39 - Boston Bruins

1937-38 - Chicago Black Hawks

1936-37 - Detroit Red Wings

1935-36 - Detroit Red Wings

1934-35 - Montreal Maroons

1933-34 - Chicago Black Hawks

1932-33 - New York Rangers

1931-32 - Toronto Maple Leafs

1930-31 - Montreal Canadiens

1929-30 - Montreal Canadiens

1928-29 - Boston Bruins

1927-28 - New York Rangers

1926-27 - Ottawa Senators

1925-26 - Montreal Maroons

1924-25 - Victoria Cougars

1923-24 - Montreal Canadiens

1922-23 - Ottawa Senators

1921-22 - Toronto St. Pats

1920-21 - Ottawa Senators

1919-20 - Ottawa Senators

1918-19 - No decision

1917-18 - Toronto Arenas

1916-17 - Seattle Metropolitians

1915-16 - Montreal Canadiens

1914-15 - Vancouver Millionaires

1913-14 - Toronto Blueshirts

1912-23 - Quebec Bulldogs

1911-12 - Quebec Bulldogs

1910-11 - Ottawa Senators

1909-10 - Montreal Wanderers

1908-09 - Ottawa Senators

1907-08 - Montreal Wanderers

1906-07 - Montreal Wanderers

1906-07 - Kenora Thistles

1905-06 - Montreal Wanderers

1905-06 - Ottawa Senators

1904-05 - Ottawa Senators

1903-04 - Ottawa Senators

1902-03 - Ottawa Senators

1902-03 - Montreal Amateur Athletic Association (AAA)

1901-02 - Montreal AAA

1901-02 - Winnipeg Victoria

1900-01 - Winnipeg Victoria

1899-1900 - Montreal Shamrocks

1898-99 - Montreal Shamrocks

1897-98 - Montreal Victorias

1896-97 - Montreal Victorias

1895-96 - Winnipeg Victorias

1895-96 - Montreal Victorias

1894-95 - Montreal Victorias

1893-94 - Montreal AAA

1892-93 - Montreal AAA

D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Sep 6 @ 8:40 AM ET
Agreed. The senators are definitely the team we saw in the playoffs, that was only able to win against teams decimated by injury.

This likely has to do with the complete lack of talent in the forward group, a d-corps that features a guy who'd be bottom pairing on most teams as their second best defender(making 7Mil!) and a tight budget that prevents improvement.

Not to mention a dearth of young talent at all positions.


We can all agree with this.

- Feeling Glucky?







And Ottawa was icing a roster of 100% completely healthy players, no one starter was sitting out games due to injury, and they ALL were in the best physical condition of their lives ..........not one player had a scratch, a bruise or any type of measurable pain.


Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Sep 6 @ 8:48 AM ET
And Ottawa was icing a roster of 100% completely healthy players, no one starter was sitting out games due to injury, and they ALL were in the best physical condition of their lives ..........not one player had a scratch, a bruise or any type of measurable pain.



- D0PPELGANGER

That's what I said!

Good job!
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Boyle > Marleau :dopes, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Sep 6 @ 9:13 AM ET
The Ottawa Senator Stanley Cup winning teams, are engraved on the Stanley Cup a number of times, no one but leaf fans care that a team, representing Ottawa, was not a continuous franchise or whatever you're making a big deal about.


It would be like making a big deal about ownership changes, or some other stupid innocuous point.



If Stanley Cup winning teams that won before the NHL was formed, don't count, then why have the names of those teams not been removed?

Suffice it to say they count just as much as any Cup won after the NHL was formed.




The NHL recognizes the Eleven Stanley Cup Champions banners that Hang in the CTC rafters.


the complete list of Stanley Cup MVPs, and more.

2015-16 - Pittsburgh Penguins​

2014-15 - Chicago Blackhawks​​

2013-14 - Los Angeles Kings

2012-13 - Chicago Blackhawks

2011-12 - Los Angeles Kings

2010-11 - Boston Bruins

2009-10 - Chicago Blackhawks

2008-09 - Pittsburgh Penguins

2007-08 - Detroit Red Wings

2006-07 - Anaheim Ducks

2005-06 - Carolina Hurricanes

2003-04 - Tampa Bay Lightning

2002-03 - New Jersey Devils

2001-02 - Detroit Red Wings

2000-01 - Colorado Avalanche

1999-2000 - New Jersey Devils

1998-99 - Dallas Stars

1997-98 - Detroit Red Wings

1996-97 - Detroit Red Wings

1995-96 - Colorado Avalanche

1994-95 - New Jersey Devils

1993-94 - New York Rangers

1992-93 - Montreal Canadiens

1991-92 - Pittsburgh Penguins

1990-91 - Pittsburgh Penguins

1989-90 - Edmonton Oilers

1988-89 - Calgary Flames

1987-88 - Edmonton Oilers

1986-87 - Edmonton Oilers

1985-86 - Montreal Canadiens

1984-85 - Edmonton Oilers

1983-84 - Edmonton Oilers

1982-83 - New York Islanders

1981-82 - New York Islanders

1980-81 - New York Islanders

1979-80 - New York Islanders

1978-79 - Montreal Canadiens

1977-78 - Montreal Canadiens

1976-77 - Montreal Canadiens

1975-76 - Montreal Canadiens

1974-75 - Philadelphia Flyers

1973-74 - Philadelphia Flyers

1972-73 - Montreal Canadiens

1971-72 - Boston Bruins

1970-71 - Montreal Canadiens

1969-70 - Boston Bruins

1968-69 - Montreal Canadiens

1967-68 - Montreal Canadiens

1966-67 - Toronto Maple Leafs

1965-66 - Montreal Canadiens

1964-65 - Montreal Canadiens

1963-64 - Toronto Maple Leafs

1962-63 - Toronto Maple Leafs

1961-62 - Toronto Maple Leafs

1960-61 - Chicago Blackhawks

1959-60 - Montreal Canadiens

1958-59 - Montreal Canadiens

1957-58 - Montreal Canadiens

1956-57 - Montreal Canadiens

1955-56 - Montreal Canadiens

1954-55 - Detroit Red Wings

1953-54 - Detroit Red Wings

1952-53 - Montreal Canadiens

1951-52 - Detroit Red Wings

1950-51 - Toronto Maple Leafs

1949-50 - Detroit Red Wings

1948-49 - Toronto Maple Leafs

1947-48 - Toronto Maple Leafs

1946-47 - Toronto Maple Leafs

1945-46 - Montreal Canadiens

1944-45 - Toronto Maple Leafs

1943-44 - Montreal Canadiens

1942-43 - Detroit Red Wings

1941-42 - Toronto Maple Leafs

1940-41 - Boston Bruins

1939-40 - New York Rangers

1938-39 - Boston Bruins

1937-38 - Chicago Black Hawks

1936-37 - Detroit Red Wings

1935-36 - Detroit Red Wings

1934-35 - Montreal Maroons

1933-34 - Chicago Black Hawks

1932-33 - New York Rangers

1931-32 - Toronto Maple Leafs

1930-31 - Montreal Canadiens

1929-30 - Montreal Canadiens

1928-29 - Boston Bruins

1927-28 - New York Rangers

1926-27 - Ottawa Senators

1925-26 - Montreal Maroons

1924-25 - Victoria Cougars

1923-24 - Montreal Canadiens

1922-23 - Ottawa Senators

1921-22 - Toronto St. Pats

1920-21 - Ottawa Senators

1919-20 - Ottawa Senators

1918-19 - No decision

1917-18 - Toronto Arenas

1916-17 - Seattle Metropolitians

1915-16 - Montreal Canadiens

1914-15 - Vancouver Millionaires

1913-14 - Toronto Blueshirts

1912-23 - Quebec Bulldogs

1911-12 - Quebec Bulldogs

1910-11 - Ottawa Senators

1909-10 - Montreal Wanderers

1908-09 - Ottawa Senators

1907-08 - Montreal Wanderers

1906-07 - Montreal Wanderers

1906-07 - Kenora Thistles

1905-06 - Montreal Wanderers

1905-06 - Ottawa Senators

1904-05 - Ottawa Senators

1903-04 - Ottawa Senators

1902-03 - Ottawa Senators

1902-03 - Montreal Amateur Athletic Association (AAA)

1901-02 - Montreal AAA

1901-02 - Winnipeg Victoria

1900-01 - Winnipeg Victoria

1899-1900 - Montreal Shamrocks

1898-99 - Montreal Shamrocks

1897-98 - Montreal Victorias

1896-97 - Montreal Victorias

1895-96 - Winnipeg Victorias

1895-96 - Montreal Victorias

1894-95 - Montreal Victorias

1893-94 - Montreal AAA

1892-93 - Montreal AAA

- D0PPELGANGER



You obviously don't get the point.

What a moronic comparision
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Sep 6 @ 9:14 AM ET
That's what I said!

Good job!

- Feeling Glucky?


So Erik Karlsson, was not injured late in the season, missing a game or two, and did not play injured the entire three rounds of the playoffs, in your mind.


And Mark Borowiecki was not injured in the second game of the first round, and never got back into the line up, in your mind.

Alex Burrows did not suffer a high ankle sprain and did not miss any games in the playoffs, in your mind.

Also Cody Ceci , did not have his finger broken a few times in the three rounds of the playoffs, in your mind.


Viktor Stalberg did not suffer a rib injury, and did not miss any games, in your mind.

Derick Brassard did not injury his shoulder, and did not play through the injury, in your mind.

Mark Stone did not injure his leg, in your mind.

Ryan Dzingel did not injure his wrist, in your mind.

Marc Methot did not have his finger hacked off, and miss any games, or did he play through the playoffs injured either, in your mind.

There are more, but in your mind, only the teams that Ottawa played, suffered injuries, and had players missing from their roster ........... and Ottawa was perfectly healthy from start to finish ................. right?




bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Sep 6 @ 9:46 AM ET
The Ottawa Senator Stanley Cup winning teams, are engraved on the Stanley Cup a number of times, no one but leaf fans care that a team, representing Ottawa, was not a continuous franchise or whatever you're making a big deal about.


It would be like making a big deal about ownership changes, or some other stupid innocuous point.



If Stanley Cup winning teams that won before the NHL was formed, don't count, then why have the names of those teams not been removed?

Suffice it to say they count just as much as any Cup won after the NHL was formed.




The NHL recognizes the Eleven Stanley Cup Champions banners that Hang in the CTC rafters.


the complete list of Stanley Cup MVPs, and more.

2015-16 - Pittsburgh Penguins​

2014-15 - Chicago Blackhawks​​

2013-14 - Los Angeles Kings

2012-13 - Chicago Blackhawks

2011-12 - Los Angeles Kings

2010-11 - Boston Bruins

2009-10 - Chicago Blackhawks

2008-09 - Pittsburgh Penguins

2007-08 - Detroit Red Wings

2006-07 - Anaheim Ducks

2005-06 - Carolina Hurricanes

2003-04 - Tampa Bay Lightning

2002-03 - New Jersey Devils

2001-02 - Detroit Red Wings

2000-01 - Colorado Avalanche

1999-2000 - New Jersey Devils

1998-99 - Dallas Stars

1997-98 - Detroit Red Wings

1996-97 - Detroit Red Wings

1995-96 - Colorado Avalanche

1994-95 - New Jersey Devils

1993-94 - New York Rangers

1992-93 - Montreal Canadiens

1991-92 - Pittsburgh Penguins

1990-91 - Pittsburgh Penguins

1989-90 - Edmonton Oilers

1988-89 - Calgary Flames

1987-88 - Edmonton Oilers

1986-87 - Edmonton Oilers

1985-86 - Montreal Canadiens

1984-85 - Edmonton Oilers

1983-84 - Edmonton Oilers

1982-83 - New York Islanders

1981-82 - New York Islanders

1980-81 - New York Islanders

1979-80 - New York Islanders

1978-79 - Montreal Canadiens

1977-78 - Montreal Canadiens

1976-77 - Montreal Canadiens

1975-76 - Montreal Canadiens

1974-75 - Philadelphia Flyers

1973-74 - Philadelphia Flyers

1972-73 - Montreal Canadiens

1971-72 - Boston Bruins

1970-71 - Montreal Canadiens

1969-70 - Boston Bruins

1968-69 - Montreal Canadiens

1967-68 - Montreal Canadiens

1966-67 - Toronto Maple Leafs

1965-66 - Montreal Canadiens

1964-65 - Montreal Canadiens

1963-64 - Toronto Maple Leafs

1962-63 - Toronto Maple Leafs

1961-62 - Toronto Maple Leafs

1960-61 - Chicago Blackhawks

1959-60 - Montreal Canadiens

1958-59 - Montreal Canadiens

1957-58 - Montreal Canadiens

1956-57 - Montreal Canadiens

1955-56 - Montreal Canadiens

1954-55 - Detroit Red Wings

1953-54 - Detroit Red Wings

1952-53 - Montreal Canadiens

1951-52 - Detroit Red Wings

1950-51 - Toronto Maple Leafs

1949-50 - Detroit Red Wings

1948-49 - Toronto Maple Leafs

1947-48 - Toronto Maple Leafs

1946-47 - Toronto Maple Leafs

1945-46 - Montreal Canadiens

1944-45 - Toronto Maple Leafs

1943-44 - Montreal Canadiens

1942-43 - Detroit Red Wings

1941-42 - Toronto Maple Leafs

1940-41 - Boston Bruins

1939-40 - New York Rangers

1938-39 - Boston Bruins

1937-38 - Chicago Black Hawks

1936-37 - Detroit Red Wings

1935-36 - Detroit Red Wings

1934-35 - Montreal Maroons

1933-34 - Chicago Black Hawks

1932-33 - New York Rangers

1931-32 - Toronto Maple Leafs

1930-31 - Montreal Canadiens

1929-30 - Montreal Canadiens

1928-29 - Boston Bruins

1927-28 - New York Rangers

1926-27 - Ottawa Senators

1925-26 - Montreal Maroons

1924-25 - Victoria Cougars

1923-24 - Montreal Canadiens

1922-23 - Ottawa Senators

1921-22 - Toronto St. Pats

1920-21 - Ottawa Senators

1919-20 - Ottawa Senators

1918-19 - No decision

1917-18 - Toronto Arenas

1916-17 - Seattle Metropolitians

1915-16 - Montreal Canadiens

1914-15 - Vancouver Millionaires

1913-14 - Toronto Blueshirts

1912-23 - Quebec Bulldogs

1911-12 - Quebec Bulldogs

1910-11 - Ottawa Senators

1909-10 - Montreal Wanderers

1908-09 - Ottawa Senators

1907-08 - Montreal Wanderers

1906-07 - Montreal Wanderers

1906-07 - Kenora Thistles

1905-06 - Montreal Wanderers

1905-06 - Ottawa Senators

1904-05 - Ottawa Senators

1903-04 - Ottawa Senators

1902-03 - Ottawa Senators

1902-03 - Montreal Amateur Athletic Association (AAA)

1901-02 - Montreal AAA

1901-02 - Winnipeg Victoria

1900-01 - Winnipeg Victoria

1899-1900 - Montreal Shamrocks

1898-99 - Montreal Shamrocks

1897-98 - Montreal Victorias

1896-97 - Montreal Victorias

1895-96 - Winnipeg Victorias

1895-96 - Montreal Victorias

1894-95 - Montreal Victorias

1893-94 - Montreal AAA

1892-93 - Montreal AAA

- D0PPELGANGER




Wow, Ya'll were the shiit from 1902 to 1926. Good times..
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Sep 6 @ 10:17 AM ET
The Ottawa Senator Stanley Cup winning teams, are engraved on the Stanley Cup a number of times, no one but leaf fans care that a team, representing Ottawa, was not a continuous franchise or whatever you're making a big deal about.


It would be like making a big deal about ownership changes, or some other stupid innocuous point.



If Stanley Cup winning teams that won before the NHL was formed, don't count, then why have the names of those teams not been removed?

Suffice it to say they count just as much as any Cup won after the NHL was formed.




The NHL recognizes the Eleven Stanley Cup Champions banners that Hang in the CTC rafters.


the complete list of Stanley Cup MVPs, and more.

2015-16 - Pittsburgh Penguins​

2014-15 - Chicago Blackhawks​​

2013-14 - Los Angeles Kings

2012-13 - Chicago Blackhawks

2011-12 - Los Angeles Kings

2010-11 - Boston Bruins

2009-10 - Chicago Blackhawks

2008-09 - Pittsburgh Penguins

2007-08 - Detroit Red Wings

2006-07 - Anaheim Ducks

2005-06 - Carolina Hurricanes

2003-04 - Tampa Bay Lightning

2002-03 - New Jersey Devils

2001-02 - Detroit Red Wings

2000-01 - Colorado Avalanche

1999-2000 - New Jersey Devils

1998-99 - Dallas Stars

1997-98 - Detroit Red Wings

1996-97 - Detroit Red Wings

1995-96 - Colorado Avalanche

1994-95 - New Jersey Devils

1993-94 - New York Rangers

1992-93 - Montreal Canadiens

1991-92 - Pittsburgh Penguins

1990-91 - Pittsburgh Penguins

1989-90 - Edmonton Oilers

1988-89 - Calgary Flames

1987-88 - Edmonton Oilers

1986-87 - Edmonton Oilers

1985-86 - Montreal Canadiens

1984-85 - Edmonton Oilers

1983-84 - Edmonton Oilers

1982-83 - New York Islanders

1981-82 - New York Islanders

1980-81 - New York Islanders

1979-80 - New York Islanders

1978-79 - Montreal Canadiens

1977-78 - Montreal Canadiens

1976-77 - Montreal Canadiens

1975-76 - Montreal Canadiens

1974-75 - Philadelphia Flyers

1973-74 - Philadelphia Flyers

1972-73 - Montreal Canadiens

1971-72 - Boston Bruins

1970-71 - Montreal Canadiens

1969-70 - Boston Bruins

1968-69 - Montreal Canadiens

1967-68 - Montreal Canadiens

1966-67 - Toronto Maple Leafs

1965-66 - Montreal Canadiens

1964-65 - Montreal Canadiens

1963-64 - Toronto Maple Leafs

1962-63 - Toronto Maple Leafs

1961-62 - Toronto Maple Leafs

1960-61 - Chicago Blackhawks

1959-60 - Montreal Canadiens

1958-59 - Montreal Canadiens

1957-58 - Montreal Canadiens

1956-57 - Montreal Canadiens

1955-56 - Montreal Canadiens

1954-55 - Detroit Red Wings

1953-54 - Detroit Red Wings

1952-53 - Montreal Canadiens

1951-52 - Detroit Red Wings

1950-51 - Toronto Maple Leafs

1949-50 - Detroit Red Wings

1948-49 - Toronto Maple Leafs

1947-48 - Toronto Maple Leafs

1946-47 - Toronto Maple Leafs

1945-46 - Montreal Canadiens

1944-45 - Toronto Maple Leafs

1943-44 - Montreal Canadiens

1942-43 - Detroit Red Wings

1941-42 - Toronto Maple Leafs

1940-41 - Boston Bruins

1939-40 - New York Rangers

1938-39 - Boston Bruins

1937-38 - Chicago Black Hawks

1936-37 - Detroit Red Wings

1935-36 - Detroit Red Wings

1934-35 - Montreal Maroons

1933-34 - Chicago Black Hawks

1932-33 - New York Rangers

1931-32 - Toronto Maple Leafs

1930-31 - Montreal Canadiens

1929-30 - Montreal Canadiens

1928-29 - Boston Bruins

1927-28 - New York Rangers

1926-27 - Ottawa Senators

1925-26 - Montreal Maroons

1924-25 - Victoria Cougars

1923-24 - Montreal Canadiens

1922-23 - Ottawa Senators

1921-22 - Toronto St. Pats

1920-21 - Ottawa Senators

1919-20 - Ottawa Senators

1918-19 - No decision

1917-18 - Toronto Arenas

1916-17 - Seattle Metropolitians

1915-16 - Montreal Canadiens

1914-15 - Vancouver Millionaires

1913-14 - Toronto Blueshirts

1912-23 - Quebec Bulldogs

1911-12 - Quebec Bulldogs

1910-11 - Ottawa Senators

1909-10 - Montreal Wanderers

1908-09 - Ottawa Senators

1907-08 - Montreal Wanderers

1906-07 - Montreal Wanderers

1906-07 - Kenora Thistles

1905-06 - Montreal Wanderers

1905-06 - Ottawa Senators

1904-05 - Ottawa Senators

1903-04 - Ottawa Senators

1902-03 - Ottawa Senators

1902-03 - Montreal Amateur Athletic Association (AAA)

1901-02 - Montreal AAA

1901-02 - Winnipeg Victoria

1900-01 - Winnipeg Victoria

1899-1900 - Montreal Shamrocks

1898-99 - Montreal Shamrocks

1897-98 - Montreal Victorias

1896-97 - Montreal Victorias

1895-96 - Winnipeg Victorias

1895-96 - Montreal Victorias

1894-95 - Montreal Victorias

1893-94 - Montreal AAA

1892-93 - Montreal AAA

- D0PPELGANGER

So if I get this right you can laud the fact that the Sens won cups over 100 years ago but we can't laud the 13 cups the Leafs have won since.
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