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burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Boyle > Marleau :dopes, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jul 16 @ 9:03 AM ET
It's not what I said .......... it's what I read in today's paper.......... thought I explained well enough so that even the dumbest leaf fan would understand that.
- D0PPELGANGER



Clearly not. Not once did you say you got that from the papers, or what paper. All you said was you heard rumors and then proceeded to post nonsensical bullpoop. How am I supposed to know where you got it if you dint say so, saying you heard rumors and then turning around and chastising someone make you look like a goof. Considering you only said you heard rumors and then posted poop that is blatantly false I just suspected you were making up.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Boyle > Marleau :dopes, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jul 16 @ 9:04 AM ET
Kevin McGran - Sports Reporter
5 days ago


Connor Brown is in no-man’s land, contract-wise.

The maple leafs want to re-sign their restricted free agent, but are unable to do so without going over the NHL’s summertime salary cap.

The maple leafs can not match an offer sheet of more than $1.15 million, meaning they are at risk of losing Brown, a 20-goal scorer and one of their impressive rookies from last season.

That’s why trade rumours are swirling around the team. Teams know the leafs are seeking relief from their salary-cap bind, and are targetting some of their veterans. Tyler Bozak’s name has been linked to the New York Rangers and the Pittsburgh Penguins.

- D0PPELGANGER


Proven false
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Liljegren tanked to get the Leafs
Joined: 07.14.2011

Jul 16 @ 9:06 AM ET
Guys, I have a christening to attend today.

I'll let you know what Irish Pete, Billy the Pigeon, Gentle Ken and Chinese Alan have to say about the matter
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jul 16 @ 9:06 AM ET
Clearly not. Not once did you say you got that from the papers, or what paper. All you said was you heard rumors and then proceeded to post nonsensical bullpoop. How am I supposed to know where you got it if you dint say so, saying you heard rumors and then turning around and chastising someone make you look like a goof. Considering you only said you heard rumors and then posted poop that is blatantly false I just suspected you were making up.
- burn


Your sounding vulnerable.
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Jul 16 @ 9:07 AM ET
Yes I read the report. Does seem to raise cap management concerns.
- spatso





It's just amazing ............ you ask a "simple question" and explain that you've heard/read a few rumours .............. you ask for some informed opinions ........ and the trollonto trolls just can't help themselves, and they trash anything you or I post, before they even do any research.

I assumed, being leaf fans, they'd be up to speed on these types of stories/rumours ........... but obviously not, they just want to trash anyone and anything.

Shows their true low level of knowledge ....... and then when confronted with actual stories from a toronto based newspaper ..............
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Liljegren tanked to get the Leafs
Joined: 07.14.2011

Jul 16 @ 9:08 AM ET
Tues., July 11, 2017

There are, however, questions as to whether the Leafs have the summertime cap space to sign Brown. Teams can exceed the cap by 10 per cent, or to a limit of $82.5 million. The website capfriendly.com dug through the terms of the collective bargaining agreement, determining the Leafs didn’t have enough space to sign Brown to an amount equal to his value — around $3 million US a year — without the Leafs making a trade or two.

A source within the Maple Leafs told the Star the team indeed does have the cap space according to their reading of the collective bargaining agreement, but would not provide specifics. Lamoriello was due to talk Wednesday at the conclusion of the team’s development camp for its top prospects.

- D0PPELGANGER

You bolded the wrong bit
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Jul 16 @ 9:09 AM ET
Clearly not. Not once did you say you got that from the papers, or what paper. All you said was you heard rumors and then proceeded to post nonsensical bullpoop. How am I supposed to know where you got it if you dint say so, saying you heard rumors and then turning around and chastising someone make you look like a goof. Considering you only said you heard rumors and then posted poop that is blatantly false I just suspected you were making up.
- burn





Gee was I assuming that newspapers/TV/Radio are only published or broadcast in Ottawa?

Do I have to explain it at a pre-school level for you?


Where the heck else does one read/ hear stories and rumours?
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jul 16 @ 9:11 AM ET
Gee was I assuming that newspapers/TV/Radio are only published or broadcast in Ottawa?

Do I have to explain it at a pre-school level for you?


Where the heck else does one read/ hear stories and rumours?

- D0PPELGANGER


Your on fire this morning. They are withering under your direct speech.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Boyle > Marleau :dopes, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jul 16 @ 9:14 AM ET
Gee was I assuming that newspapers/TV/Radio are only published or broadcast in Ottawa?

Do I have to explain it at a pre-school level for you?


Where the heck else does one read/ hear stories and rumours?

- D0PPELGANGER



I heard rumours, don't post where there from......

I told you I read it in the paper (no you didn't).

Try doing it at preschool level, maybe you'll see what issue you're having here.

As I said, your rumors you say heard are bogus and bring into question whether you heard them or mad them up. Get it?
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Jul 16 @ 9:14 AM ET



And they still haven’t signed Connor Brown for this coming season but it is widely accepted that a trade will take place later in the offseason before they do so (maybe for Tyler Bozak, but also maybe not).




Marleau is, of course, not worth $6.25 million any more. His power play production is declining and while he had plenty of goals at even strength last season (20 of ’em), it was because the Sharks shuffled him down the lineup for much of the season. He only played a little more than 17 minutes a night and if the Leafs try to bump that up again, I don’t care how good his linemates are, he’s gonna be in tough. We just don’t have the evidence that he can handle top competition anymore, and attaching him to, say, Auston Matthews’ wing will be an impediment.





D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Jul 16 @ 9:14 AM ET
I heard rumours, don't post where there from......

I told you I read it in the paper (no you didn't).

Try doing it at preschool level, maybe you'll see what issue you're having here.

As I said, your rumors you say heard are bogus and bring into question whether you heard them or mad them up. Get it?

- burn





burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Boyle > Marleau :dopes, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jul 16 @ 9:14 AM ET
Your on fire this morning. They are withering under your direct speech.
- spatso





spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jul 16 @ 9:16 AM ET



And they still haven’t signed Connor Brown for this coming season but it is widely accepted that a trade will take place later in the offseason before they do so (maybe for Tyler Bozak, but also maybe not).




Marleau is, of course, not worth $6.25 million any more. His power play production is declining and while he had plenty of goals at even strength last season (20 of ’em), it was because the Sharks shuffled him down the lineup for much of the season. He only played a little more than 17 minutes a night and if the Leafs try to bump that up again, I don’t care how good his linemates are, he’s gonna be in tough. We just don’t have the evidence that he can handle top competition anymore, and attaching him to, say, Auston Matthews’ wing will be an impediment.

- D0PPELGANGER


Makes sense!
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Boyle > Marleau :dopes, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jul 16 @ 9:17 AM ET
That all changed on Tuesday when James Mirtle of the Athletic wrote that the Leafs actually have space because of the LTIR provision. The confusion in this situation was that the Leafs could not place Nathan Horton and Joffrey Lupul on LTIR until the beginning of the season but Mirtle received clarification on that.

That something is apparently that the Leafs can — and likely already have — use long-term injured reserve space in the summer.

That goes against what we’ve believed possible previously, but NHL deputy commissioner Bill Daly confirmed to The Athletic on Tuesday afternoon that it was allowed.

“Yes, they can,” Daly said when asked if teams were permitted to access additional cap room in this fashion long before the season started. “Same as in-season.”

Most teams use LTIR on the opening day of the season, as they like to push their roster as close to the cap as possible before going into LTIR. That isn’t a problem for Toronto given how close they are already to the off-season limit.
What this means is that the Leafs should have roughly $5-million left to spend on Brown who should be signed in the $3-million range. Mirtle also mentions that the Leafs would have some flexibility to potentially add a player should the occasion arise.

Dopps, you only care about rumours that are 2weeks old and proven false?
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jul 16 @ 9:17 AM ET
Is nobody wanting to talk about Markov.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jul 16 @ 9:20 AM ET
That all changed on Tuesday when James Mirtle of the Athletic wrote that the Leafs actually have space because of the LTIR provision. The confusion in this situation was that the Leafs could not place Nathan Horton and Joffrey Lupul on LTIR until the beginning of the season but Mirtle received clarification on that.

That something is apparently that the Leafs can — and likely already have — use long-term injured reserve space in the summer.

That goes against what we’ve believed possible previously, but NHL deputy commissioner Bill Daly confirmed to The Athletic on Tuesday afternoon that it was allowed.

“Yes, they can,” Daly said when asked if teams were permitted to access additional cap room in this fashion long before the season started. “Same as in-season.”

Most teams use LTIR on the opening day of the season, as they like to push their roster as close to the cap as possible before going into LTIR. That isn’t a problem for Toronto given how close they are already to the off-season limit.
What this means is that the Leafs should have roughly $5-million left to spend on Brown who should be signed in the $3-million range. Mirtle also mentions that the Leafs would have some flexibility to potentially add a player should the occasion arise.

- burn


Do you not think the problem is Markov?
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Jul 16 @ 9:20 AM ET
Guys, I have a christening to attend today.

I'll let you know what Irish Pete, Billy the Pigeon, Gentle Ken and Chinese Alan have to say about the matter

- walshyleafsfan


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