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walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Jul 12 @ 9:20 PM ET
All quiet on the Western Front
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jul 13 @ 12:40 AM ET
Free agent invites, HAMMER prized draft picks in scrimmage at leafs development camp.


- D0PPELGANGER



The good news here is that it's possible to go from having a terrible rookie development camp (and get called out by your organization) and end up being the best player not in the nhl within a few short months
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jul 13 @ 5:07 AM ET
The good news here is that it's possible to go from having a terrible rookie development camp (and get called out by your organization) and end up being the best player not in the nhl within a few short months
- burn


"Ottawa also has two mega-prospects who could make an impact this year and change the seasonal outlook: defenseman Thomas Chabot and center Colin White."

Hockey News
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Jul 13 @ 5:22 AM ET
"Ottawa also has two mega-prospects who could make an impact this year and change the seasonal outlook: defenseman Thomas Chabot and center Colin White."

Hockey News

- spatso


THREE PLAYOFF TEAMS WHO COULD MISS IN 2017-18, AND THREE NON-PLAYOFF TEAMS WHO COULD GET IN

3. Ottawa Senators (My projection: fourth in Atlantic Division, ninth in East)

I entered the summer determined to finally start believing in the Senators. They pushed the eventual Stanley Cup champion Pittsburgh Penguins to double overtime of Game 7 in the Eastern Conference final. Erik Karlsson is a top-three player in the world and makes Ottawa dangerous singlehandedly. Craig Anderson remains an above-average netminder despite his advanced age. The Sens have a pretty deep forward corps, too, led by outstanding two-way force Mark Stone. Ottawa also has two mega-prospects who could make an impact this year and change the seasonal outlook: defenseman Thomas Chabot and center Colin White.

I thus expect Ottawa to remain competitive again even though it’ll probably continue posting subpar possession numbers after finishing 22nd in 5-on-5 Corsi For percentage last season. The problem: it’s very difficult to imagine Tampa Bay not returning to the playoffs. The Bolts missed by one point last year. The Carolina Hurricanes also look vastly improved over in the Metropolitan division and could steal a wild-card spot from that side.

The Sens are fresh off a gruelling, overachieving post-season run, and the teams around them improved, while they aren’t guaranteed to do the same unless their rookies blow expectations out of the water. They could play close to as well as last year and simply get passed by Tampa, forcing the Sens to scratch and claw for the No. 8 seed
.

Hockey News
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jul 13 @ 5:57 AM ET
It would be a mistake for Leafs to add Jägr
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Jul 13 @ 7:19 AM ET
It would be a mistake for Leafs to add Jägr
- spatso


It would be a mistake for Sens to add Iginla
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jul 13 @ 7:50 AM ET
THREE PLAYOFF TEAMS WHO COULD MISS IN 2017-18, AND THREE NON-PLAYOFF TEAMS WHO COULD GET IN

3. Ottawa Senators (My projection: fourth in Atlantic Division, ninth in East)

I entered the summer determined to finally start believing in the Senators. They pushed the eventual Stanley Cup champion Pittsburgh Penguins to double overtime of Game 7 in the Eastern Conference final. Erik Karlsson is a top-three player in the world and makes Ottawa dangerous singlehandedly. Craig Anderson remains an above-average netminder despite his advanced age. The Sens have a pretty deep forward corps, too, led by outstanding two-way force Mark Stone. Ottawa also has two mega-prospects who could make an impact this year and change the seasonal outlook: defenseman Thomas Chabot and center Colin White.

I thus expect Ottawa to remain competitive again even though it’ll probably continue posting subpar possession numbers after finishing 22nd in 5-on-5 Corsi For percentage last season. The problem: it’s very difficult to imagine Tampa Bay not returning to the playoffs. The Bolts missed by one point last year. The Carolina Hurricanes also look vastly improved over in the Metropolitan division and could steal a wild-card spot from that side.

The Sens are fresh off a gruelling, overachieving post-season run, and the teams around them improved, while they aren’t guaranteed to do the same unless their rookies blow expectations out of the water. They could play close to as well as last year and simply get passed by Tampa, forcing the Sens to scratch and claw for the No. 8 seed
.

Hockey News

- systemtool


Cuts out the blurb about MAGA PROSPECTZZ!! From an article about the Sens missing the playoffs
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jul 13 @ 8:40 AM ET
Cuts out the blurb about MAGA PROSPECTZZ!! From an article about the Sens missing the playoffs
- senstroll



Dumbest thing iv ever seen
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jul 13 @ 8:43 AM ET
It would be a mistake for Leafs to add Jägr
- spatso



Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jul 13 @ 8:50 AM ET
You guys are going to look silly when shattenkirk signs with the leafs for 8 years and 65m.
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Jul 13 @ 9:09 AM ET
You guys are going to look silly when shattenkirk signs with the leafs for 8 years and 65m.
- Tumbleweed

Even sillier when Marner won't have an impact at the NHL level and Matthews gets sent to the AHL
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Jul 13 @ 10:05 AM ET
Word is Leafs are desperate to upgrade their defense. If they sign Shattenkirk at 8 years for $65m, some of you guys are going to look somewhat silly.
- spatso



and if they don't.....someone else will....
BetterCallSaul
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Captain Morgan Rielly
Joined: 05.07.2013

Jul 13 @ 10:18 AM ET
THREE PLAYOFF TEAMS WHO COULD MISS IN 2017-18, AND THREE NON-PLAYOFF TEAMS WHO COULD GET IN

3. Ottawa Senators (My projection: fourth in Atlantic Division, ninth in East)

I entered the summer determined to finally start believing in the Senators. They pushed the eventual Stanley Cup champion Pittsburgh Penguins to double overtime of Game 7 in the Eastern Conference final. Erik Karlsson is a top-three player in the world and makes Ottawa dangerous singlehandedly. Craig Anderson remains an above-average netminder despite his advanced age. The Sens have a pretty deep forward corps, too, led by outstanding two-way force Mark Stone. Ottawa also has two mega-prospects who could make an impact this year and change the seasonal outlook: defenseman Thomas Chabot and center Colin White.

I thus expect Ottawa to remain competitive again even though it’ll probably continue posting subpar possession numbers after finishing 22nd in 5-on-5 Corsi For percentage last season. The problem: it’s very difficult to imagine Tampa Bay not returning to the playoffs. The Bolts missed by one point last year. The Carolina Hurricanes also look vastly improved over in the Metropolitan division and could steal a wild-card spot from that side.

The Sens are fresh off a gruelling, overachieving post-season run, and the teams around them improved, while they aren’t guaranteed to do the same unless their rookies blow expectations out of the water. They could play close to as well as last year and simply get passed by Tampa, forcing the Sens to scratch and claw for the No. 8 seed
.

Hockey News

- systemtool

Oh boy. Spatso, tsk tsk.
BetterCallSaul
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Captain Morgan Rielly
Joined: 05.07.2013

Jul 13 @ 10:21 AM ET
And could you please answer this, Spats? Thanks.


So, you think it is just a figment of my imagination that the Leafs signed a bunch of old guys including a Dman who all be 39 when he finishes his contract.
- spatso

A one year, a two year, and a three year that will probably be a two year. Those are the contracts to the older players. Can you please explain to me how these players or their contracts will have a negative impact on the team? Without just pulling up opinion tweets or written pieces from 'reporters'.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jul 13 @ 10:26 AM ET
And could you please answer this, Spats? Thanks.



A one year, a two year, and a three year that will probably be a two year. Those are the contracts to the older players. Can you please explain to me how these players or their contracts will have a negative impact on the team? Without just pulling up opinion tweets or written pieces from 'reporters'.

- BetterCallSaul




He'll pretend it didn't happen and ignore this
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jul 13 @ 10:28 AM ET
idiot bros are mighty quiet lately.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jul 13 @ 11:43 AM ET
THREE PLAYOFF TEAMS WHO COULD MISS IN 2017-18, AND THREE NON-PLAYOFF TEAMS WHO COULD GET IN

3. Ottawa Senators (My projection: fourth in Atlantic Division, ninth in East)

I entered the summer determined to finally start believing in the Senators. They pushed the eventual Stanley Cup champion Pittsburgh Penguins to double overtime of Game 7 in the Eastern Conference final. Erik Karlsson is a top-three player in the world and makes Ottawa dangerous singlehandedly. Craig Anderson remains an above-average netminder despite his advanced age. The Sens have a pretty deep forward corps, too, led by outstanding two-way force Mark Stone. Ottawa also has two mega-prospects who could make an impact this year and change the seasonal outlook: defenseman Thomas Chabot and center Colin White.

I thus expect Ottawa to remain competitive again even though it’ll probably continue posting subpar possession numbers after finishing 22nd in 5-on-5 Corsi For percentage last season. The problem: it’s very difficult to imagine Tampa Bay not returning to the playoffs. The Bolts missed by one point last year. The Carolina Hurricanes also look vastly improved over in the Metropolitan division and could steal a wild-card spot from that side.

The Sens are fresh off a gruelling, overachieving post-season run, and the teams around them improved, while they aren’t guaranteed to do the same unless their rookies blow expectations out of the water. They could play close to as well as last year and simply get passed by Tampa, forcing the Sens to scratch and claw for the No. 8 seed
.

Hockey News

- systemtool


We are now winding down a typical koolaid filled sens summer. Fans are beginning to notice the stories being floated that Shabot might not be ready for NHL prime time. Dreams off acquiring Duchene for spare parts got a harsh reality check with Nate Thompson being the only help coming. Concerns are starting to rise about Boucher’s track record and his ability squeeze out another playoff year from a mediocre Sens team that is sort of like a less talent Toronto crew from the JFJ years.

But Sens fans are great hockey fans and now that the silly summer chatter is winding down, they are getting around to a more balanced level of hockey discussion. Any remaining hope will come crashing down with a few early season losses. Anger and frustration will build, but it is not long lasting. Come early March, the knowledge that they won’t have to buy playoff tickets will sooth any pain.
BetterCallSaul
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Captain Morgan Rielly
Joined: 05.07.2013

Jul 13 @ 12:02 PM ET
We are now winding down a typical koolaid filled sens summer. Fans are beginning to notice the stories being floated that Shabot might not be ready for NHL prime time. Dreams off acquiring Duchene for spare parts got a harsh reality check with Nate Thompson being the only help coming. Concerns are starting to rise about Boucher’s track record and his ability squeeze out another playoff year from a mediocre Sens team that is sort of like a less talent Toronto crew from the JFJ years.

But Sens fans are great hockey fans and now that the silly summer chatter is winding down, they are getting around to a more balanced level of hockey discussion. Any remaining hope will come crashing down with a few early season losses. Anger and frustration will build, but it is not long lasting. Come early March, the knowledge that they won’t have to buy playoff tickets will sooth any pain.

- Tumbleweed

They didn't buy the playoff tickets even when they were available, the parking lot is too far away from the city and the Redblacks were playing.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jul 13 @ 12:05 PM ET
Cuts out the blurb about MAGA PROSPECTZZ!! From an article about the Sens missing the playoffs
- senstroll


This actually a significant upgrade from anything written previously by this writer. Saying the Sens will finish 4th is a big move up.

Practical reality they are writing about teams moving up (Tampa and Carolina) into playoffs and they need to displace two teams from last year (Ottawa and Boston). It is Hockey News, they always pump the Leafs and Montreal (to a lesser extent) it is about circulation.

They have actually strongly improved their Sens evaluation over last year and the comments on the mega rookies is also a major concession in the way they report the Sens.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jul 13 @ 12:07 PM ET
You guys are going to look silly when shattenkirk signs with the leafs for 8 years and 65m.
- Tumbleweed


Shattenkirk left money on the table in order to sign with Rangers. He simply said "no" to the Leaf pitch.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jul 13 @ 12:09 PM ET
Shattenkirk left money on the table in order to sign with Rangers. He simply said "no" to the Leaf pitch.
- spatso


well, sure glad no one looked silly then.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jul 13 @ 12:12 PM ET
This actually a significant upgrade from anything written previously by this writer. Saying the Sens will finish 4th is a big move up.

Practical reality they are writing about teams moving up (Tampa and Carolina) into playoffs and they need to displace two teams from last year (Ottawa and Boston). It is Hockey News, they always pump the Leafs and Montreal (to a lesser extent) it is about circulation.

They have actually strongly improved their Sens evaluation over last year and the comments on the mega rookies is also a major concession in the way they report the Sens.

- spatso


moar summer talk. 4th > 2nd.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jul 13 @ 12:20 PM ET
We are now winding down a typical koolaid filled sens summer. Fans are beginning to notice the stories being floated that Shabot might not be ready for NHL prime time. Dreams off acquiring Duchene for spare parts got a harsh reality check with Nate Thompson being the only help coming. Concerns are starting to rise about Boucher’s track record and his ability squeeze out another playoff year from a mediocre Sens team that is sort of like a less talent Toronto crew from the JFJ years.

But Sens fans are great hockey fans and now that the silly summer chatter is winding down, they are getting around to a more balanced level of hockey discussion. Any remaining hope will come crashing down with a few early season losses. Anger and frustration will build, but it is not long lasting. Come early March, the knowledge that they won’t have to buy playoff tickets will sooth any pain.

- Tumbleweed


I am always flattered when you use my prose as the foundation for your creativity.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jul 13 @ 12:25 PM ET
I am always flattered when you use my prose as the foundation for your creativity.
- spatso


moar summer talk. saying you're flattered when you're embarrassed.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jul 13 @ 12:25 PM ET
I am always flattered when you use my prose as the foundation for your creativity.
- spatso

I have read stories about how a change in medication, or a withdrawal from it, can cause irrational behavior in an individual. Has your prescription changed recently?
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