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Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: he's 35, time to be fart the messenger boy.
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jul 3 @ 7:44 PM ET
Marleau is 38, Dominic Moore is 38 and Ron Haninsey is 36 on opening day. Generally I am supportive of the Shanaplan. But, I don't understand this move to post prime players.

Are the Leafs going backwards with these signings?

- spatso


Good lord.

They are veteran players who are there to play specific roles. for a LIMITED TIME that does NOT INTERFERE with any drafting, developing, contract plans etc.

Moore is a good 4th liner, replaces Boyle, very short term deal

Hainsey is basically replacing Hunwick, holding down a D spot so the young kids can develop, properly... something you are about to find out is actually necessary.

Marleau is still a productive player, WAY overpaid, but doesn't damage future plans. AND he makes JVR expendable. So, they can continue to shop JVR for a D upgrade but not lose anything on the offensive side. To be honest, they could probably keep, and extend JVR also... or decide they want him around next year and let him walk, or let him go as a rental at the deadline if things don't pan out this season.

They ALL have lots of playoff experience.

So... just please, you and whoever, STFU and give it some thought before you post your idiocy. Learn about the CBA, Salary Cap, contracts etc.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Jul 3 @ 7:45 PM ET
Hey, dough head, was Bobby Ryan over 35 when he signed is contract?

Inform yourself as to the difference, and maybe you'll stop looking like an empty-headed fool ............ or perhaps you are one.


do some reading before you dig your stupidity hole any deeper


http://www.colliganhockey...l-cba-35-older-contracts/


https://www.reddit.com/r/hockey/wiki/contracts

- D0PPELGANGER


Rattled. Phaneuf and Ryan are going to give do00ps a stroke.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Jul 3 @ 7:47 PM ET
and there's the proof
- D0PPELGANGER



Youre trying so hard. Wipe the tears son. And the snot.


Your eyes before your nose. I feel you needed that final instruction
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: he's 35, time to be fart the messenger boy.
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jul 3 @ 7:47 PM ET
They're not out from under the Marleau anchor.......... an anchor that cannot be taken off the books for three seasons.

No one is going to trade for him, as you suggested, when he's 40 freaking years old ............. besides, he has a COMPLETE NMC in his contract.

Marleau's anchor of a contract makes Dion's look like a Helium filled balloon!.

- D0PPELGANGER


Jesus, read the CBA, look at the Leafs cap situation.

Here's a better idea, spend your time wondering how the F you are going to re-sign Karlsson AND ice a decent team when you have like 15 million at least in BAD contracts... Oh, and learn the difference between a cap team and a budget team.

D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Jul 3 @ 7:48 PM ET
Let me walk you through this. Marleau is going to play for two seasons, and personally I think he'll fit in well. He'll retire the summer before the last season of his contract begins, unless you truly believe he is going to play for 1 mil over the last season. His contract will then be traded to a bottom feeding cap floor team like Arizona or Ottawa or Vegas. Teams that will benefit from a high cap hit with zero payout.

And if he doesn't retire, then the Leafs don't resign Bozak or JVR and slide in players like Kapanen and Bracco for less money and ride out the last season of his 6 mil cap hit.

Need me to break that down even further?

- BetterCallSaul




Yeah, expalin to me why you think his contract is structured to pay him only 1 Million in the last season .............. when it's been clearly reported, documented and easily found to be $4.250 million .................besides, even if he retired two minutes from now, his contract stays on the books for three seasons at a 6.25 cap hit.



What is it that you don't understand about players, 35 years and older, signing these anchor type contract?
BetterCallSaul
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Liljegren?
Joined: 05.07.2013

Jul 3 @ 7:49 PM ET
Jesus, read the CBA, look at the Leafs cap situation.

Here's a better idea, spend your time wondering how the F you are going to re-sign Karlsson AND ice a decent team when you have like 15 million at least in BAD contracts... Oh, and learn the difference between a cap team and a budget team.

- Aetherial

I haven't even thought about Karlsson's next contract. What do you expect to see there? 11 Mil per season?
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: GMTM on Eichel: "He certainly won't get his pee pee slapped by me for being a little more outspoken., ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jul 3 @ 7:49 PM ET
Hey, dough head, was Bobby Ryan over 35 when he signed is contract?

Inform yourself as to the difference, and maybe you'll stop looking like an empty-headed fool ............ or perhaps you are one.


do some reading before you dig your stupidity hole any deeper


http://www.colliganhockey...l-cba-35-older-contracts/


https://www.reddit.com/r/hockey/wiki/contracts

- D0PPELGANGER


What the hell.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: he's 35, time to be fart the messenger boy.
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jul 3 @ 7:52 PM ET
Yeah, expalin to me why you think his contract is structured to pay him only 1 Million in the last season .............. when it's been clearly reported, documented and easily found to be $4.250 million .................besides, even if he retired two minutes from now, his contract stays on the books for three seasons at a 6.25 cap hit.



What is it that you don't understand about players, 35 years and older, signing these anchor type contract?

- D0PPELGANGER


Dude, until you show you know something about the Leafs cap situation or plans, just STFU. Go read a spreadsheet, do some math. Marleau's contract is inconsequential to the future of the team. He is here for some punch and veteran leadership and playoff experience NOW and the extra dollars the Leafs were willing to pay in return for not giving up assets to get him.

Instead...

Explain how do you re-sign Karlsson and manage to ice a competitive team.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: he's 35, time to be fart the messenger boy.
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jul 3 @ 7:54 PM ET
I haven't even thought about Karlsson's next contract. What do you expect to see there? 11 Mil per season?
- BetterCallSaul


Even with a hometown discount it has to be 10.

McDavid will get his 13, Matthews Laine Eichel will come in around 10.5 to 11, Who knows with Nylander and Marner if they are so good that they command 10 also then that is a good problem to have.

The Sens will pay Karlsson. It is literally the end of their franchise if they let him walk. How the F do they ice a competitive team though.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: GMTM on Eichel: "He certainly won't get his pee pee slapped by me for being a little more outspoken., ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jul 3 @ 7:57 PM ET
Yeah, expalin to me why you think his contract is structured to pay him only 1 Million in the last season .............. when it's been clearly reported, documented and easily found to be $4.250 million .................besides, even if he retired two minutes from now, his contract stays on the books for three seasons at a 6.25 cap hit.



What is it that you don't understand about players, 35 years and older, signing these anchor type contract?

- D0PPELGANGER



Did you not just chastise someone for not knowing and told them to learn?

Maybe you should do you're own research better you moron. He's getting 1mil base salary in the final year, bonus paid jully1, base salary for final year 1mil. After he's paid the bonus on July 1, some team gladly take him and pay him a mil for the 6.25mil cap hit.

Educate yourself before talking poop about others.

Way to make yourself look stupid.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Jul 3 @ 7:58 PM ET
Even with a hometown discount it has to be 10.

McDavid will get his 13, Matthews Laine Eichel will come in around 10.5 to 11, Who knows with Nylander and Marner if they are so good that they command 10 also then that is a good problem to have.

The Sens will pay Karlsson. It is literally the end of their franchise if they let him walk. How the F do they ice a competitive team though.

- Aetherial



Maybe Ryan and Phaneuf can loan Melnyk a few thousand bucks to improve the Sens and sign Karlsson. They have and make more than he does anyways.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Jul 3 @ 7:59 PM ET
Did you not just chastise someone for not knowing and told them to learn?

Maybe you should do you're own research better you moron. He's getting 1mil base salary in the final year, bonus paid jully1, base salary for final year 1mil. After he's paid the bonus on July 1, some team gladly take him and pay him a mil for the 6.25mil cap hit.

Educate yourself before talking poop about others.

Way to make yourself look stupid.

- burn


Hes just having his routine meltdown. Ive heard its hard to cry, type and think all at the same time.

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