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burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: GMTM on Eichel: "He certainly won't get his pee pee slapped by me for being a little more outspoken., ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jun 29 @ 11:14 PM ET
I posted this around 1:00pm right after I posted the comment from below. Almost all of what I posted on Shattenkirk and the Leafs comes from others.
- spatso



These are you're first posts on this subject (all before 1:00 pm)

You understand this is the kind of comment that causes the rest of the league to laugh at you guys. This morning it is reported the Leafs are trying to sign Shattenkirk. You know it will cost more on an 8 year term and duplicate the same age profile for Phaneuf.

Shattenkirk is a little better offensively than Phaneuf. Phaneuf is much stronger defensively and has a much stronger physical presence. He is also a stronger presence in the room. Shattenkirk is not a team leader wherever he has been.

So, what is the point?

- spatso



Word is Leafs are desperate to upgrade their defense. If they sign Shattenkirk at 8 years for $65m, some of you guys are going to look somewhat silly.
- spatso



If the Leafs sign Shattenkirk for 8 years and $65m. We will all wonder why they did not hang on to Phaneuf who is the better defensive/physical player. Leafs need defense, not more offensive presence.
- spatso



Stop being a (frank)ing idiot.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Jun 29 @ 11:49 PM ET
These are you're first posts on this subject (all before 1:00 pm)










Stop being a (frank)ing idiot.

- burn



ouch more spatso fails..
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jun 30 @ 5:44 AM ET
These are you're first posts on this subject (all before 1:00 pm)










Stop being a (frank)ing idiot.

- burn



Fact 1 reported Shattenkirk wants an 8 year deal upwards $8m average annual

Fact 2 reported Leafs have an interest in signing Shattenkirk

Fact 3 reported he has already turned down a deal at plus $6m

Fact 4 it is foggy on the lake but I am going fishing anyway
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: GMTM on Eichel: "He certainly won't get his pee pee slapped by me for being a little more outspoken., ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jun 30 @ 7:01 AM ET
Fact 1 reported Shattenkirk wants an 8 year deal upwards $8m average annual

Fact 2 reported Leafs have an interest in signing Shattenkirk

Fact 3 reported he has already turned down a deal at plus $6m

Fact 4 it is foggy on the lake but I am going fishing anyway

- spatso

in fact say it, several times


None of that answers why you said leafs will sign for 8 years.
BlueBallz
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: If I was GM I'd trade for the pick right behind the Canucks every year - Nucker101, ON
Joined: 07.06.2012

Jun 30 @ 7:47 AM ET
in fact say it, several times


None of that answers why you said leafs will sign for 8 years.

- burn

I thought it was because that is exactly what TSN was reporting. He posted several non TSN links none of which mentioned 8 years for 65 million to support that. Is that not enough for you?
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 12 grands is NOTHING in the art market.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jun 30 @ 8:10 AM ET
I thought it was because that is exactly what TSN was reporting. He posted several non TSN links none of which mentioned 8 years for 65 million to support that. Is that not enough for you?
- BlueBallz

spatso vindicated again

egg all over burn's face. again.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jun 30 @ 8:20 AM ET
I thought it was because that is exactly what TSN was reporting. He posted several non TSN links none of which mentioned 8 years for 65 million to support that. Is that not enough for you?
- BlueBallz

D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Jun 30 @ 8:44 AM ET
As long as it's a short term deal, no worries. Makes it easier to trade guys like Bozak and JVR for help elsewhere.

Edit: Marleau, too.

- Feeling Glucky?



So you'd be ok with the leafs bringing in both Thornton & Marleau, as long as they turned around and dealt Bozak and JVR?
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jun 30 @ 9:48 AM ET
So you'd be ok with the leafs bringing in both Thornton & Marleau, as long as they turned around and dealt Bozak and JVR?
- D0PPELGANGER

As long as trading in Bozak and JVR brought in defensive help, and Thornton and Marleau were short-term deals.

Neither player is a long-term piece for the Leafs anyways.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Jun 30 @ 9:53 AM ET
As long as trading in Bozak and JVR brought in defensive help, and Thornton and Marleau were short-term deals.

Neither player is a long-term piece for the Leafs anyways.

- Feeling Glucky?


To elaborate, neither are long term pieces, and obviously neither of Thornton or Marleau would be either.

Basically replacing JVR and Bozak for nothign more than short term salary, and picking up MORE youth? Yeah, sure. I mean, Bozak and JVR, I wouldn't mind keeping either. But their contracts are up, and I'd rather not give them a raise, so it would be nice to get some futures for them. Long term, makes the team younger and quite likely better.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jun 30 @ 9:56 AM ET
To elaborate, neither are long term pieces, and obviously neither of Thornton or Marleau would be either.

Basically replacing JVR and Bozak for nothign more than short term salary, and picking up MORE youth? Yeah, sure. I mean, Bozak and JVR, I wouldn't mind keeping either. But their contracts are up, and I'd rather not give them a raise, so it would be nice to get some futures for them. Long term, makes the team younger and quite likely better.

- prock

This.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jun 30 @ 11:09 AM ET
Guys, I think spazy confused Shattenkirk with Draisaitl

Ryan Rishaug ✔ @TSNRyanRishaug
My sense is Draisaitl ask on an 8 year deal could push 9m per season. Oilers I'd guess would think 7-8 range based on comps
4:14 PM - 28 Jun 2017


...and the Leafs with the oilers?


or maybe he's just an idiot who makes poop up.

Who knows.

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