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burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: GMTM on Eichel: "He certainly won't get his pee pee slapped by me for being a little more outspoken., ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jun 29 @ 1:05 PM ET
What your doing is called detailing. It means you take a narrow point and insist that if the narrowest point proves invalid than the larger assumption should also be invalid.

Nobody knows exactly what Shattenkirk will sign for.

He can only sign for 8 years if the team owns his rights.

Consensus is he will sign for better than $7m.

Lots of commentary coming forward that Leafs are trying to get a deal done.

I don't know anything beyond that. It is public information. Not sure what the purpose of your denial is....but it does seem to be a pattern for many Leaf fans.

- spatso



Crazy!! Didn't you just waste you're time posting links about shattenkirk signing for 6mil? Are you ok?
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jun 29 @ 1:05 PM ET
What your doing is called detailing. It means you take a narrow point and insist that if the narrowest point proves invalid than the larger assumption should also be invalid.

Nobody knows exactly what Shattenkirk will sign for.

He can only sign for 8 years if the team owns his rights.

Consensus is he will sign for better than $7m.

Lots of commentary coming forward that Leafs are trying to get a deal done.

I don't know anything beyond that. It is public information. Not sure what the purpose of your denial is....but it does seem to be a pattern for many Leaf fans.

- spatso

and yet...

Word is Leafs are desperate to upgrade their defense. If they sign Shattenkirk at 8 years for $65m, some of you guys are going to look somewhat silly.
- spatso


You know it will cost more on an 8 year term and duplicate the same age profile for Phaneuf.
- spatso


If the Leafs sign Shattenkirk for 8 years and $65m. We will all wonder why they did not hang on to Phaneuf who is the better defensive/physical player. Leafs need defense, not more offensive presence.


We're not denying anything. There is no doubt the Leafs would kick the tires on Shattenkirk.

We're laughing at what an idiot you are, and insist on being.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: If they sign Shattenkirk at 8 years for $65m, some of you guys are going to look somewhat silly.spat
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jun 29 @ 1:05 PM ET
If the Leafs sign Shattenkirk for 8 years and $65m. We will all wonder why they did not hang on to Phaneuf who is the better defensive/physical player. Leafs need defense, not more offensive presence.
- spatso


please, go on.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: GMTM on Eichel: "He certainly won't get his pee pee slapped by me for being a little more outspoken., ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jun 29 @ 1:06 PM ET
Not as good as Phaneuf and longer remaining term.
- spatso



Is that why you guys tried to dump him in expansion draft and a hundred times since?
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: GMTM on Eichel: "He certainly won't get his pee pee slapped by me for being a little more outspoken., ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jun 29 @ 1:07 PM ET
and yet...







We're not denying anything. There is no doubt the Leafs would kick the tires on Shattenkirk.

We're laughing at what an idiot you are, and insist on being.

- Feeling Glucky?



spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jun 29 @ 1:08 PM ET
Would be ideal if we could sign him
for a couple of seasons. I'd overpay for that... doubt he'd go for it though.

- Feeling Glucky?


If nothing changes, nothing changes. Shattenkirk is nowhere near the horse that Phaneuf has been. Seriously, Shattenkirk is not a leader or even a dominate player. Leafs should avoid this option.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jun 29 @ 1:10 PM ET
Crazy!! Didn't you just waste you're time posting links about shattenkirk signing for 6mil? Are you ok?
- burn


No all those links confirmed that he will not sign for $6m (St. Louis) and that the offers will need to be North of $7m.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: If they sign Shattenkirk at 8 years for $65m, some of you guys are going to look somewhat silly.spat
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jun 29 @ 1:12 PM ET
No all those links confirmed that he will not sign for $6m (St. Louis) and that the offers will need to be North of $7m.
- spatso


Duh, the leafs will sign him for 8 years and $65M!!!!


lololololomg
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jun 29 @ 1:12 PM ET
If nothing changes, nothing changes. Shattenkirk is nowhere near the horse that Phaneuf has been. Seriously, Shattenkirk is not a leader or even a dominate player. Leafs should avoid this option.
- spatso

I like the insinuation that Phaneuf is either of those things.


Shattenkirk is a far superior player to Phaneuf. They're in different tiers all together.


Phaneuf was a good player a number of years ago... which I guess is the last time the Sens got a scouting report on him(those things are expensive!). But he's declined massively, hence why a management group with some of the brightest minds and years of experience dumped him on one of the worst managed teams in the league.

I'm sorry to take you away from your sens summer speak, but somehow, I'm sure you'll find a way to not let facts bother you.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jun 29 @ 1:13 PM ET
Scoreboard, Spasto, Scoreboard!

Sens continue to be losers, with 0 cups in their history!

Stop your loser talk!

This is very low grade summer sens speak.

- Feeling Glucky?


I see your struggling. Scoreboard certainly takes into account standings and playoffs.

A Super Bowl appearance is a Super Bowl appearance.

Not sure what part of that you don't get.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: If they sign Shattenkirk at 8 years for $65m, some of you guys are going to look somewhat silly.spat
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jun 29 @ 1:15 PM ET
I see your struggling. Scoreboard certainly takes into account standings and playoffs.

A Super Bowl appearance is a Super Bowl appearance.

Not sure what part of that you don't get.

- spatso


the sens made the Super Bowl?

Did they at least sell it out?
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jun 29 @ 1:18 PM ET
I like the insinuation that Phaneuf is either of those things.


Shattenkirk is a far superior player to Phaneuf. They're in different tiers all together.


Phaneuf was a good player a number of years ago... which I guess is the last time the Sens got a scouting report on him(those things are expensive!). But he's declined massively, hence why a management group with some of the brightest minds and years of experience dumped him on one of the worst managed teams in the league.

I'm sorry to take you away from your sens summer speak, but somehow, I'm sure you'll find a way to not let facts bother you.

- Feeling Glucky?


Thank you for all those verbs and wonderful sentences. I sincerely do appreciate your putting some effort into your comments.

During the playoffs, it was said that Phaneuf was back to playing like his Calgary days. The Leafs never saw the best of Dion Phaneuf.

I don't disagree with the Leafs decision to move forward without Phaneuf. On the other hand, other than for Karlsson and Anderson no Sens player has a better playoff than Phaneuf. Loved all aspects of his game.

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