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burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jun 29 @ 1:05 PM ET
What your doing is called detailing. It means you take a narrow point and insist that if the narrowest point proves invalid than the larger assumption should also be invalid.

Nobody knows exactly what Shattenkirk will sign for.

He can only sign for 8 years if the team owns his rights.

Consensus is he will sign for better than $7m.

Lots of commentary coming forward that Leafs are trying to get a deal done.

I don't know anything beyond that. It is public information. Not sure what the purpose of your denial is....but it does seem to be a pattern for many Leaf fans.

- spatso



Crazy!! Didn't you just waste you're time posting links about shattenkirk signing for 6mil? Are you ok?
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jun 29 @ 1:05 PM ET
What your doing is called detailing. It means you take a narrow point and insist that if the narrowest point proves invalid than the larger assumption should also be invalid.

Nobody knows exactly what Shattenkirk will sign for.

He can only sign for 8 years if the team owns his rights.

Consensus is he will sign for better than $7m.

Lots of commentary coming forward that Leafs are trying to get a deal done.

I don't know anything beyond that. It is public information. Not sure what the purpose of your denial is....but it does seem to be a pattern for many Leaf fans.

- spatso

and yet...

Word is Leafs are desperate to upgrade their defense. If they sign Shattenkirk at 8 years for $65m, some of you guys are going to look somewhat silly.
- spatso


You know it will cost more on an 8 year term and duplicate the same age profile for Phaneuf.
- spatso


If the Leafs sign Shattenkirk for 8 years and $65m. We will all wonder why they did not hang on to Phaneuf who is the better defensive/physical player. Leafs need defense, not more offensive presence.


We're not denying anything. There is no doubt the Leafs would kick the tires on Shattenkirk.

We're laughing at what an idiot you are, and insist on being.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jun 29 @ 1:05 PM ET
If the Leafs sign Shattenkirk for 8 years and $65m. We will all wonder why they did not hang on to Phaneuf who is the better defensive/physical player. Leafs need defense, not more offensive presence.
- spatso


please, go on.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jun 29 @ 1:06 PM ET
Not as good as Phaneuf and longer remaining term.
- spatso



Is that why you guys tried to dump him in expansion draft and a hundred times since?
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jun 29 @ 1:07 PM ET
and yet...







We're not denying anything. There is no doubt the Leafs would kick the tires on Shattenkirk.

We're laughing at what an idiot you are, and insist on being.

- Feeling Glucky?



spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jun 29 @ 1:08 PM ET
Would be ideal if we could sign him
for a couple of seasons. I'd overpay for that... doubt he'd go for it though.

- Feeling Glucky?


If nothing changes, nothing changes. Shattenkirk is nowhere near the horse that Phaneuf has been. Seriously, Shattenkirk is not a leader or even a dominate player. Leafs should avoid this option.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jun 29 @ 1:10 PM ET
Crazy!! Didn't you just waste you're time posting links about shattenkirk signing for 6mil? Are you ok?
- burn


No all those links confirmed that he will not sign for $6m (St. Louis) and that the offers will need to be North of $7m.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jun 29 @ 1:12 PM ET
No all those links confirmed that he will not sign for $6m (St. Louis) and that the offers will need to be North of $7m.
- spatso


Duh, the leafs will sign him for 8 years and $65M!!!!


lololololomg
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jun 29 @ 1:12 PM ET
If nothing changes, nothing changes. Shattenkirk is nowhere near the horse that Phaneuf has been. Seriously, Shattenkirk is not a leader or even a dominate player. Leafs should avoid this option.
- spatso

I like the insinuation that Phaneuf is either of those things.


Shattenkirk is a far superior player to Phaneuf. They're in different tiers all together.


Phaneuf was a good player a number of years ago... which I guess is the last time the Sens got a scouting report on him(those things are expensive!). But he's declined massively, hence why a management group with some of the brightest minds and years of experience dumped him on one of the worst managed teams in the league.

I'm sorry to take you away from your sens summer speak, but somehow, I'm sure you'll find a way to not let facts bother you.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jun 29 @ 1:13 PM ET
Scoreboard, Spasto, Scoreboard!

Sens continue to be losers, with 0 cups in their history!

Stop your loser talk!

This is very low grade summer sens speak.

- Feeling Glucky?


I see your struggling. Scoreboard certainly takes into account standings and playoffs.

A Super Bowl appearance is a Super Bowl appearance.

Not sure what part of that you don't get.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jun 29 @ 1:15 PM ET
I see your struggling. Scoreboard certainly takes into account standings and playoffs.

A Super Bowl appearance is a Super Bowl appearance.

Not sure what part of that you don't get.

- spatso


the sens made the Super Bowl?

Did they at least sell it out?
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jun 29 @ 1:18 PM ET
I like the insinuation that Phaneuf is either of those things.


Shattenkirk is a far superior player to Phaneuf. They're in different tiers all together.


Phaneuf was a good player a number of years ago... which I guess is the last time the Sens got a scouting report on him(those things are expensive!). But he's declined massively, hence why a management group with some of the brightest minds and years of experience dumped him on one of the worst managed teams in the league.

I'm sorry to take you away from your sens summer speak, but somehow, I'm sure you'll find a way to not let facts bother you.

- Feeling Glucky?


Thank you for all those verbs and wonderful sentences. I sincerely do appreciate your putting some effort into your comments.

During the playoffs, it was said that Phaneuf was back to playing like his Calgary days. The Leafs never saw the best of Dion Phaneuf.

I don't disagree with the Leafs decision to move forward without Phaneuf. On the other hand, other than for Karlsson and Anderson no Sens player has a better playoff than Phaneuf. Loved all aspects of his game.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Jun 29 @ 1:18 PM ET
What your doing is called detailing. It means you take a narrow point and insist that if the narrowest point proves invalid than the larger assumption should also be invalid.

Nobody knows exactly what Shattenkirk will sign for.

He can only sign for 8 years if the team owns his rights.

Consensus is he will sign for better than $7m.

Lots of commentary coming forward that Leafs are trying to get a deal done.

I don't know anything beyond that. It is public information. Not sure what the purpose of your denial is....but it does seem to be a pattern for many Leaf fans.

- spatso


I can't imagine the Leafs would bother when they have the best Dman prospect in the world.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jun 29 @ 1:19 PM ET
I see your struggling. Scoreboard certainly takes into account standings and playoffs.

A Super Bowl appearance is a Super Bowl appearance.

Not sure what part of that you don't get.

- spatso

Yes.

And it means nothing if you don't walk away with a ring.



You do know the Stanley cup isn't handed out at the ECF, right?
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Uh-huh
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jun 29 @ 1:19 PM ET
Perhaps you need to take this up with those that offer up the rumour.
- spatso


Good lord.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Jun 29 @ 1:19 PM ET
the sens made the Super Bowl?

Did they at least sell it out?

- Tumbleweed



Well superbowls are not usually played in the home city of either team, so there is a chance.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jun 29 @ 1:20 PM ET
Well superbowls are not usually played in the home city of either team, so there is a chance.
- prock

Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jun 29 @ 1:20 PM ET
Thank you for all those verbs and wonderful sentences. I sincerely do appreciate your putting some effort into your comments.

During the playoffs, it was said that Phaneuf was back to playing like his Calgary days. The Leafs never saw the best of Dion Phaneuf.

I don't disagree with the Leafs decision to move forward without Phaneuf. On the other hand, other than for Karlsson and Anderson no Sens player has a better playoff than Phaneuf. Loved all aspects of his game.

- spatso

1 goal in 19 games.

Yup. Just like Calgary Phaneuf.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Uh-huh
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jun 29 @ 1:21 PM ET
Not as good as Phaneuf and longer remaining term.
- spatso


The Sens tried to dump him in the expansion draft and then offered him up to every other team at half price and nobody wanted him.

spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jun 29 @ 1:22 PM ET
Very cold and wet at cottage.

Not nice for fishing.

Hard getting summer up to speed.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jun 29 @ 1:23 PM ET
the sens made the Super Bowl?

Did they at least sell it out?

- Tumbleweed



The one where the lights went out.....
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Uh-huh
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jun 29 @ 1:23 PM ET
If nothing changes, nothing changes. Shattenkirk is nowhere near the horse that Phaneuf has been. Seriously, Shattenkirk is not a leader or even a dominate player. Leafs should avoid this option.
- spatso


He will get better than 5 million for 5+ years.

Nobody would take Phaneuf for half price.

spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jun 29 @ 1:23 PM ET
The Sens tried to dump him in the expansion draft and then offered him up to every other team at half price and nobody wanted him.
- Aetherial


I don't believe that for a second.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jun 29 @ 1:25 PM ET
Very cold and wet at cottage.

Not nice for fishing.

Hard getting summer up to speed.

- spatso



Dopes????
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Uh-huh
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jun 29 @ 1:25 PM ET
I see your struggling. Scoreboard certainly takes into account standings and playoffs.

A Super Bowl appearance is a Super Bowl appearance.

Not sure what part of that you don't get.

- spatso


Scoreboard says 0 cups for the Sens and 0 playoff victories over the Leafs, oh and a coveted 28th pick.

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