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systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Jun 29 @ 12:38 PM ET
http://www.tsn.ca/radio/toronto-1050/mcguire-shattenkirk-would-be-very-good-fit-for-maple-leafs-1.662180
- spatso



what the hell is wrong with you? that's pierre maguire offering his opinion. you're a (frank)ing idiot.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jun 29 @ 12:39 PM ET
http://www.tsn.ca/radio/toronto-1050/mcguire-shattenkirk-would-be-very-good-fit-for-maple-leafs-1.662180
- spatso

Ahh Pierre Mcguire.

Isn't he the same guy who thinks Ottawa has decent prospects?


I don't know which is more damaging to his reputation(assuming he says 8 year/65 Mil in that segment).
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jun 29 @ 12:39 PM ET
what the hell is wrong with you? that's pierre maguire offering his opinion. you're a (frank)ing idiot.
- systemtool



systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Jun 29 @ 12:41 PM ET
http://thehockeywriters.c...enkirk-belongs-in-ottawa/
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jun 29 @ 12:42 PM ET
http://thehockeywriters.com/kevin-shattenkirk-belongs-in-ottawa/
- systemtool

Whoa! 9X8?

Crazy!
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Jun 29 @ 12:43 PM ET
Karlsson usually lines up against the other team's top player. He has a history of outplaying them.
.

- spatso

I can think of a few teams that's not true of.


Nobody, including Methot has ever suggested that Karlsson was so effective because of his partner.

- spatso


Actually, he struggled quite a bit when Methot was injured for the first half of a season a couple of years back. It was suggested quite a bit back then, and supported by numbers, over the past several years.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jun 29 @ 12:45 PM ET
Ahh Pierre Mcguire.

Isn't he the same guy who thinks Ottawa has decent prospects?


I don't know which is more damaging to his reputation(assuming he says 8 year/65 Mil in that segment).

- Feeling Glucky?


Wrong.

But TSN says Ottawa has 4 of top 50 prospects outside NHL. Leafs have none.
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Jun 29 @ 12:46 PM ET
Ahh Pierre Mcguire.

Isn't he the same guy who thinks Ottawa has decent prospects?


I don't know which is more damaging to his reputation(assuming he says 8 year/65 Mil in that segment).

- Feeling Glucky?





Pierre Mcguire said this morning that "Shattenkirk is a 5/6 defenseman, and a PP specialist" or words to that effect.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jun 29 @ 12:46 PM ET
Wrong.

But TSN says Ottawa has 4 of top 50 prospects outside NHL. Leafs have none.

- spatso


That's a loser list! For fans of teams who don't have young players that are good enough for the NHL! Typical Sens Summer Speak!
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jun 29 @ 12:47 PM ET
Pierre Mcguire said this morning that "Shattenkirk is a 5/6 defenseman, and a PP specialist" or words to that effect.
- D0PPELGANGER

spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jun 29 @ 12:47 PM ET
I can think of a few teams that's not true of.



Actually, he struggled quite a bit when Methot was injured for the first half of a season a couple of years back. It was suggested quite a bit back then, and supported by numbers, over the past several years.

- prock


You know you are the only one who is still trying to argue this nonsense.

Methot has the poorest numbers of any Dman playing with Karlsson this season. Claesson had the best numbers.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jun 29 @ 12:49 PM ET
You know you are the only one who is still trying to argue this nonsense.

Methot has the poorest numbers of any Dman playing with Karlsson this season. Claesson had the best numbers.

- spatso


you afraid to take the bet?
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jun 29 @ 12:50 PM ET
You guys are so funny:

The Leafs are among six teams that have been in contact with free agent defenseman Kevin Shattenkirk, according to The Fourth Period’s David Pagnotta.

The New York Rangers are still considered the leading candidate for the 28-year-old blueliner, but how much they will offer Shattenkirk may be limited after the signing of Brendan Smith to a four-year, $17.4 Million deal on Wednesday.

Toronto may have interest in Shattenkirk depending on the price tag and term, but the signings of Kris Russell and Smith at over $4 Million AAV would be an indicator that Shattenkirk will still draw offers in excess of $6 Million per season for five or more years.

Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jun 29 @ 12:52 PM ET
You guys are so funny:

The Leafs are among six teams that have been in contact with free agent defenseman Kevin Shattenkirk, according to The Fourth Period’s David Pagnotta.

The New York Rangers are still considered the leading candidate for the 28-year-old blueliner, but how much they will offer Shattenkirk may be limited after the signing of Brendan Smith to a four-year, $17.4 Million deal on Wednesday.

Toronto may have interest in Shattenkirk depending on the price tag and term, but the signings of Kris Russell and Smith at over $4 Million AAV would be an indicator that Shattenkirk will still draw offers in excess of $6 Million per season for five or more years.

- spatso


My vision is a bit blurry from laughing at you. Can you highlight the 8 year 65 million dollar part of this?
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Jun 29 @ 12:52 PM ET
Pierre Mcguire said this morning that "Shattenkirk is a 5/6 defenseman, and a PP specialist" or words to that effect.
- D0PPELGANGER



the turds don't need another one of those.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jun 29 @ 12:53 PM ET
That's a loser list! For fans of teams who don't have young players that are good enough for the NHL! Typical Sens Summer Speak!
- Feeling Glucky?


Except in this case the team with all the prospects made it to the ECF
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jun 29 @ 12:53 PM ET
You guys are so funny:

The Leafs are among six teams that have been in contact with free agent defenseman Kevin Shattenkirk, according to The Fourth Period’s David Pagnotta.

The New York Rangers are still considered the leading candidate for the 28-year-old blueliner, but how much they will offer Shattenkirk may be limited after the signing of Brendan Smith to a four-year, $17.4 Million deal on Wednesday.

Toronto may have interest in Shattenkirk depending on the price tag and term, but the signings of Kris Russell and Smith at over $4 Million AAV would be an indicator that Shattenkirk will still draw offers in excess of $6 Million per season for five or more years.

- spatso


take the bet if you are so confident about it. the leafs blogger thinks there's a chance and so does your boy pierre.
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jun 29 @ 12:53 PM ET
You guys are so funny:

The Leafs are among six teams that have been in contact with free agent defenseman Kevin Shattenkirk, according to The Fourth Period’s David Pagnotta.

The New York Rangers are still considered the leading candidate for the 28-year-old blueliner, but how much they will offer Shattenkirk may be limited after the signing of Brendan Smith to a four-year, $17.4 Million deal on Wednesday.

Toronto may have interest in Shattenkirk depending on the price tag and term, but the signings of Kris Russell and Smith at over $4 Million AAV would be an indicator that Shattenkirk will still draw offers in excess of $6 Million per season for five or more years.

- spatso


he would be fine for 6 mil over 5 years
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Jun 29 @ 12:53 PM ET
You know you are the only one who is still trying to argue this nonsense.

Methot has the poorest numbers of any Dman playing with Karlsson this season. Claesson had the best numbers.

- spatso



good luck with that.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jun 29 @ 12:56 PM ET
Except in this case the team with all the prospects made it to the ECF
- spatso


Scoreboard, Spasto, Scoreboard!

Sens continue to be losers, with 0 cups in their history!

Stop your loser talk!

This is very low grade summer sens speak.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jun 29 @ 12:57 PM ET
he would be fine for 6 mil over 5 years
- senstroll

Would be ideal if we could sign him for a couple of seasons. I'd overpay for that... doubt he'd go for it though.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jun 29 @ 12:58 PM ET
You guys are so funny:

The Leafs are among six teams that have been in contact with free agent defenseman Kevin Shattenkirk, according to The Fourth Period’s David Pagnotta.

The New York Rangers are still considered the leading candidate for the 28-year-old blueliner, but how much they will offer Shattenkirk may be limited after the signing of Brendan Smith to a four-year, $17.4 Million deal on Wednesday.

Toronto may have interest in Shattenkirk depending on the price tag and term, but the signings of Kris Russell and Smith at over $4 Million AAV would be an indicator that Shattenkirk will still draw offers in excess of $6 Million per season for five or more years.

- spatso


Just to summarize:

Nowhere it says 8 years

Say 6mil

This article still isn't tsn


This is why people on this site laugh at you, you're an embarrassment. You've said something, and keep posting links to think that don't prove what you said.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jun 29 @ 1:00 PM ET
My vision is a bit blurry from laughing at you. Can you highlight the 8 year 65 million dollar part of this?
- Feeling Glucky?


What your doing is called detailing. It means you take a narrow point and insist that if the narrowest point proves invalid than the larger assumption should also be invalid.

Nobody knows exactly what Shattenkirk will sign for.

He can only sign for 8 years if the team owns his rights.

Consensus is he will sign for better than $7m.

Lots of commentary coming forward that Leafs are trying to get a deal done.

I don't know anything beyond that. It is public information. Not sure what the purpose of your denial is....but it does seem to be a pattern for many Leaf fans.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jun 29 @ 1:02 PM ET
he would be fine for 6 mil over 5 years
- senstroll


Not as good as Phaneuf and longer remaining term.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jun 29 @ 1:04 PM ET
Word is Leafs are desperate to upgrade their defense. If they sign Shattenkirk at 8 years for $65m, some of you guys are going to look somewhat silly.
- spatso


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