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D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Jun 27 @ 7:05 AM ET
BetterCallSaul
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Captain Morgan Rielly
Joined: 05.07.2013

Jun 27 @ 7:08 AM ET
Successful teams need to go near cap and scale back in subsequent years.

Sun report this morning says Sens have two best players outside NHL in White and Chabot.

I would have liked the Sens to keep both Methot and Phaneuf.

But, you have to trust your process. In year 1 Dorion and Boucher bring the Sens to the ECF. Let's see what happens next year.

As Boucher laughingly said, it is not Karlsson that moved, it was Erik Karlsson's partner.

- spatso

My report says they are not the best players outside of the NHL.
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Jun 27 @ 7:09 AM ET
lol. leafs took home more hardware than the sens this season.
- prock




spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jun 27 @ 7:29 AM ET




Pretty sure Dorion is going to look to the UFA market at someone like Dmitry Kulikov or Michael Stone..........

- D0PPELGANGER


I saw the Michael Stone speculation. Right handed shot which is needed. Karlsson and Ceci are only other right handlers. Boucher wants 3 rights and 3 lefts.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Uh-huh
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jun 27 @ 8:33 AM ET
Everyone saw how well Ben Harpur played at end of season. But how good is the 6'6" left shooting Dman. Harpur played on a defensively challenged Binhampton team that ended the season with an accumulative plus/minus of -332. Playing with guys that were -20 and -30, Harpur completed the season with a plus/minus of 0.

I wonder if the Sens see Harpur, who is a very strong skater and puck handler, as Karlsson's primary partner to start season?

- spatso


I watched Ben Harpur in Guelph.

Good luck.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jun 27 @ 8:34 AM ET
I saw the Michael Stone speculation. Right handed shot which is needed. Karlsson and Ceci are only other right handlers. Boucher wants 3 rights and 3 lefts.
- spatso


I watched Michael Stone in Arizona.

Good luck.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Uh-huh
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jun 27 @ 8:35 AM ET
Successful teams need to go near cap and scale back in subsequent years.

Sun report this morning says Sens have two best players outside NHL in White and Chabot.

I would have liked the Sens to keep both Methot and Phaneuf.

But, you have to trust your process. In year 1 Dorion and Boucher bring the Sens to the ECF. Let's see what happens next year.

As Boucher laughingly said, it is not Karlsson that moved, it was Erik Karlsson's partner.

- spatso


Jimmy Vesey had better numbers than White in U.S. College.
Chabot played Junior in the Q.

...So they are better than Hischier and Patrick and all the other players in junior, and the ahl and the K and Sweden and Finland etc. etc. etc. etc.

Good lord.

You give Sens fans a bad name.

By the way, the Leafs had one of, if not, THE best rookie crop(s) ever, and that is not the opinion of some Ottawa Sun hack, it is FACT, and even the leafs didn't have the top 2.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Uh-huh
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jun 27 @ 8:36 AM ET

- D0PPELGANGER


well-deserved. I cannot imagine trying to focus on my job going through what he went through. On the other hand, I am guessing he is more passionate about his job than I am about mine
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jun 27 @ 8:40 AM ET
Good lord.

You give Sens fans a bad name.

- Aetherial


I tried to watch Colin White in the playoffs.


But I missed those 2 minutes he played.
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jun 27 @ 9:09 AM ET
Everyone saw how well Ben Harpur played at end of season. But how good is the 6'6" left shooting Dman. Harpur played on a defensively challenged Binhampton team that ended the season with an accumulative plus/minus of -332. Playing with guys that were -20 and -30, Harpur completed the season with a plus/minus of 0.

I wonder if the Sens see Harpur, who is a very strong skater and puck handler, as Karlsson's primary partner to start season?

- spatso


combined plus minus...not only is the stat weak you combine it to make it a mega dumb stat

if a goal is scored 5v5, the players get a -1 each...its still 1 goal not a -3 for a line. its a -1 for the line total
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jun 27 @ 9:11 AM ET
I saw the Michael Stone speculation. Right handed shot which is needed. Karlsson and Ceci are only other right handlers. Boucher wants 3 rights and 3 lefts.
- spatso



Stone would be a good fit for the sens since he is not very good
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jun 27 @ 9:23 AM ET

- D0PPELGANGER

He's not wrong.

Why sign in the AHL when an NHL team will have you?
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jun 27 @ 9:35 AM ET
Funny how Leaf fans choke over the SENS ECF run.

Leafs have lived for so long as losers they have lost connection with the importance of the scoreboard and standings. There are known acceptable measures that are used for interpreting the meaning of outcomes.

Perhaps we need to give Leaf fans a chance to catch up and remember that the final score matters.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Uh-huh
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jun 27 @ 9:36 AM ET
combined plus minus...not only is the stat weak you combine it to make it a mega dumb stat

if a goal is scored 5v5, the players get a -1 each...its still 1 goal not a -3 for a line. its a -1 for the line total

- senstroll


His posts get more stupid the more you read them.

Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Uh-huh
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jun 27 @ 9:37 AM ET
Funny how Leaf fans choke over the SENS ECF run.

Leafs have lived for so long as losers they have lost connection with the importance of the scoreboard and standings. There are known acceptable measures that are used for interpreting the meaning of outcomes.

Perhaps we need to give Leaf fans a chance to catch up and remember that the final score matters.

- spatso


Funny how you can't stay on topic.

Hopefully the wind blows a shiny gum wrapper by your window and you disappear for a couple weeks.
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jun 27 @ 9:55 AM ET
Funny how Leaf fans choke over the SENS ECF run.

Leafs have lived for so long as losers they have lost connection with the importance of the scoreboard and standings. There are known acceptable measures that are used for interpreting the meaning of outcomes.

Perhaps we need to give Leaf fans a chance to catch up and remember that the final score matters.

- spatso


I just looked and it Says the Penguins won the Cup not the Sens... The scoreboard said the Sens lost
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jun 27 @ 9:57 AM ET
Alfredson did not get in the HOF

spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jun 27 @ 10:00 AM ET
Funny how you can't stay on topic.

Hopefully the wind blows a shiny gum wrapper by your window and you disappear for a couple weeks.

- Aetherial


And, did we never read the theme of this thread. Scoreboard matters.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jun 27 @ 10:02 AM ET
I just looked and it Says the Penguins won the Cup not the Sens... The scoreboard said the Sens lost
- senstroll


Yes. And, the Sens took Pens to double overtime in game 7 of ECF. A fabulous year.

senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jun 27 @ 10:05 AM ET
Yes. And, the Sens took Pens to double overtime in game 7 of ECF. A fabulous year.
- spatso


So according to the scoreboard the sens lost.

But you are not basing how the year went on the scoreboard.... because the scoreboard says the sens lost.... hmmmm

which is it?
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Jun 27 @ 10:06 AM ET
I watched Ben Harpur in Guelph.

Good luck.

- Aetherial


Watching Ben Harpur in Guelph, in 2015, as a Junior, is exactly the same as watching him in the 2017 Stanley Cup Playoffs, after two seasons in the AHL.


D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Jun 27 @ 10:09 AM ET
I tried to watch Colin White in the playoffs.


But I those 2 minutes he played.

- Tumbleweed




walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Jun 27 @ 10:14 AM ET

- D0PPELGANGER



Tom Pyatt
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jun 27 @ 10:18 AM ET
So according to the scoreboard the sens lost.

But you are not basing how the year went on the scoreboard.... because the scoreboard says the sens lost.... hmmmm

which is it?

- senstroll


It is all about scoreboard. The Sens had a fabulous playoff run. They won more playoff games than they lost. In the last game, game 7 of the ECF they lost to the Pens in double overtime. A wonderful game, a wonderful series and a spectacular playoff run.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jun 27 @ 10:21 AM ET


Tom Pyatt

- walshyleafsfan


tom pingels. tommy wyatt.

who cares about these 4th line scrubs?
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