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D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Jun 18 @ 7:18 AM ET
Id use the traditional term. Cinderella team.

Id say they had a great playoff run but an average regular season. Especially if its not a team with a recent history of cup win(s) and deep consistent playoff runs.

- systemtool




Funny how you "qualify" your answer............ is there a reason why the 2016-17 Senators are, in your words, a terrible lucky fluky team, because they had a minus goal differential, and came within one goal, in double overtime in game seven of the ECFs, of advancing to the Finals........... but the last team to actually make it to the Finals with a minus goal differential your "qualify" you answer?


I wonder what your reasoning is here?








The last time this happened, a team with a minus seven goal differential, faced a team with a plus 94 goal differential, in the first round....... and the minus 7 team advanced to the Finals.....................







Was that team the exception to your rule, the rule that make the Senators a terrible crappy team, or is there another reason?
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Jun 18 @ 7:26 AM ET
Funny how you "qualify" your answer............ is there a reason why the 2016-17 Senators are, in your words, a terrible lucky fluky team, because they had a minus goal differential, and came within one goal, in double overtime in game seven of the ECFs, of advancing to the Finals........... but the last team to actually make it to the Finals with a minus goal differential your "qualify" you answer?


I wonder what your reasoning is here?

- D0PPELGANGER



are you (frank)ed?

lucky and fluky were your words not mine. what is wrong with you?

teams that give up more than they get don't usually succeed or get listed as great. common knowledge really. can it happen? sure. but it's not a sign of greatness or a common occurrence.
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Jun 18 @ 7:32 AM ET
are you (frank)ed?

lucky and fluky were your words not mine. what is wrong with you?

teams that give up more than they get don't usually succeed or get listed as great. common knowledge really. can it happen? sure. but it's not a sign of greatness or a common occurrence.

- systemtool





So, in your words, the 1966-67 toronto maple leafs, were NOT a team of "greatness" ..............because they finished the season sporting a –7 goal differential, beat the +94 goal differential Chicago Black Hawks in the first round, and went on to the Finals ...........



systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Jun 18 @ 7:34 AM ET
So, in your words, the 1966-67 toronto maple leafs, were NOT a team of "greatness" ..............because they finished the season sporting a –7 goal differential, beat the +94 goal differential Chicago Black Hawks in the first round, and went on to the Finals ...........
- D0PPELGANGER


Seems like they had a Cinderella playoff run. No shame. Just the facts. But they won a few cups in that era so maybe the regular season just went bad on them.
prock
Nashville Predators
Location: Nice to know how comfortable t, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Jun 18 @ 8:14 AM ET
Good comment.

As most of you know I am usually pretty astute in my observations it is fair to track the accuracy of my predictions.

- spatso



yes your accuracy rate iss right up there with eklunds
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jun 18 @ 8:39 AM ET
yes your accuracy rate iss right up there with eklunds
- prock


After 10 years of my telling Leaf fans there is no there, they finally back into the playoffs and Leaf fans start talking parade and dynasty.

Leafs had a good year considering the composition of their roster. Little to demonstrate that this year will be more successful. Not uncommon, often frequent that a young team has a good year and falls significantly off the previous year.

Leafs are doing okay. I support the Shanaplan. But, not a fan of the triumphalism that makes Leaf fans the butt of most NHL jokes.
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Jun 18 @ 8:42 AM ET
Seems like they had a Cinderella playoff run. No shame. Just the facts. But they won a few cups in that era so maybe the regular season just went bad on them.
- systemtool





How does it feel to made to look ridiculous over you staunch "goal differential" obsession?


Look, each team sets up a system or style of playing, that best suits the players they have on their team....... in order to win as many games as possible.

So the Senators scored a couple of goals less than they allowed, who cares? They finished second in their division, gained home ice in the first two rounds (and the Finals if they had scored one more goal in double overtime), and came closer to winning the Cup, for the second time, than the leafs have in over fifty years.


The leafs play a system that allows for their younger faster players to score lots of points........ and it worked for them.

Each team has "needs" on their respective teams, to improve upon last season.

Ottawa needs more scoring, and the leafs need more defense.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Jun 18 @ 8:45 AM ET
How does it feel to made to look ridiculous
- D0PPELGANGER



ummm yea.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jun 18 @ 8:46 AM ET
Id use the traditional term. Cinderella team.

Id say they had a great playoff run but an average regular season. Especially if its not a team with a recent history of cup win(s) and deep consistent playoff runs.

- systemtool


Sens did not lose more than 2 regular season games in a row all year. This is the foundation and formula around which you build championship teams.

Karlsson is best at his position by a very long way. The Sens have a future star coming in Chabot. There is nothing you can say that is going to take Sens fans off the high they are experiencing this summer.

My hope is that Eric Karlsson has the best season of his entire career next year and the Sens easily win their Division and repeat with a very strong post season.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jun 18 @ 8:46 AM ET
Id use the traditional term. Cinderella team.

Id say they had a great playoff run but an average regular season. Especially if its not a team with a recent history of cup win(s) and deep consistent playoff runs.

- systemtool


Sens did not lose more than 2 regular season games in a row all year. This is the foundation and formula around which you build championship teams.

Karlsson is best at his position by a very long way. The Sens have a future star coming in Chabot. There is nothing you can say that is going to take Sens fans off the high they are experiencing this summer.

My hope is that Eric Karlsson has the best season of his entire career next year and the Sens easily win their Division and repeat with a very strong post season.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Jun 18 @ 8:51 AM ET
Sens did not lose more than 2 regular season games in a row all year. This is the foundation and formula around which you build championship teams.

Karlsson is best at his position by a very long way. The Sens have a future star coming in Chabot. There is nothing you can say that is going to take Sens fans off the high they are experiencing this summer.

My hope is that Eric Karlsson has the best season of his entire career next year and the Sens easily win their Division and repeat with a very strong post season.

- spatso



summer talk.

pretty sure great teams can score more than they give up.

summer talk.

systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Jun 18 @ 9:06 AM ET
Sens did not lose more than 2 regular season games in a row all year. This is the foundation and formula around which you build championship teams.
- spatso



What a lie. Why bother? Did you think it would be believed?

http://www.hockey-referen...teams/OTT/2017_games.html

they even lost 5 in a row at one point...

There was an 11 game run where they lost 9 of those games.

Summer talk.

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