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spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jun 15 @ 8:23 AM ET
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There is trade interest in Phaneuf. Final 4 yrs at $7-$6.5-$6.5-$6.5-$6.5. Quality shutdown guy, but Sens likely to take contract/$ back.


Sens want to keep him.

Best ways to keep a player?

1. Ask him to waive

2. Shop him around the league offering to take back a bad contract






- burn


Can only keep 3 out of 4. This is about math.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: GMTM on Eichel: "He certainly won't get his pee pee slapped by me for being a little more outspoken., ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jun 15 @ 8:29 AM ET
Can only keep 3 out of 4. This is about math.
- spatso



So dion is clearly not one of them.

It's not math it's about ridding yourself of what you don't want. Clearly they tried to get phanuef exposed in expansion draft in hopes they'd take him, now they trying to trade him.

But they want to keep him
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jun 15 @ 8:36 AM ET
So dion is clearly not one of them.

It's not math it's about ridding yourself of what you don't want. Clearly they tried to get phanuef exposed in expansion draft in hopes they'd take him, now they trying to trade him.

But they want to keep him

- burn


You can believe what you want. Phaneuf had an outstanding year and an even bigger playoff. He is hugely popular with team mates and fans. The fact that he is the target of such animosity from Leaf fans signals just how good he has been for us.

But, the expansion draft is what it is. Ottawa needs to make a choice between Karlsson, Methot, Ceci or Phaneuf.

Your logic is like saying Sammy Vatenan of Anaheim is no good because he is on the short list of players the Ducks may need to deal because of the expansion draft.

Remember the Sens are bringing in two top prospects in Chabot and Harpur. Sweet spot for the Sens going forward.
senstroll
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Sens Suck, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jun 15 @ 8:44 AM ET
Jesus, Ceci is terrible. Throw that mother(frank)er to Vegas before you do something stupid and extend him long-term
- PhillySportsGuy


Give him the Cowan treatment

I hope they do
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: GMTM on Eichel: "He certainly won't get his pee pee slapped by me for being a little more outspoken., ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jun 15 @ 8:52 AM ET
You can believe what you want. Phaneuf had an outstanding year and an even bigger playoff. He is hugely popular with team mates and fans. The fact that he is the target of such animosity from Leaf fans signals just how good he has been for us.

But, the expansion draft is what it is. Ottawa needs to make a choice between Karlsson, Methot, Ceci or Phaneuf.

Your logic is like saying Sammy Vatenan of Anaheim is no good because he is on the short list of players the Ducks may need to deal because of the expansion draft.

Remember the Sens are bringing in two top prospects in Chabot and Harpur. Sweet spot for the Sens going forward.

- spatso


It's quite a bit different than the duck situation because (a) vantenen is a good young player with a good contract (b) he didn't have a nmc they asked him to waive so expansion team might take him for free. (C) duck aren't trading him to take back another bad contract
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: GMTM on Eichel: "He certainly won't get his pee pee slapped by me for being a little more outspoken., ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jun 15 @ 8:53 AM ET
You can believe what you want. Phaneuf had an outstanding year and an even bigger playoff. He is hugely popular with team mates and fans. The fact that he is the target of such animosity from Leaf fans signals just how good he has been for us.

But, the expansion draft is what it is. Ottawa needs to make a choice between Karlsson, Methot, Ceci or Phaneuf.

Your logic is like saying Sammy Vatenan of Anaheim is no good because he is on the short list of players the Ducks may need to deal because of the expansion draft.

Remember the Sens are bringing in two top prospects in Chabot and Harpur. Sweet spot for the Sens going forward.

- spatso


What animosity? pointing out the hilariously flawed logic you keep spewing about sens want to keep him, by trying to expose him in expansion draft.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jun 15 @ 9:02 AM ET
What animosity? pointing out the hilariously flawed logic you keep spewing about sens want to keep him, by trying to expose him in expansion draft.
- burn


I believe the Sens want to move Bobby Ryan. I do not think they want to move Phaneuf. But, it appears one of Methot, Ceci or Phaneuf has to be moved.

If they do move Phaneuf it will not take away from the fact that he had an outstanding season for the Sens and was a huge factor in their playoff run.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jun 15 @ 9:12 AM ET
Pierre Lebrun does a really nice job of explaining the options available to the Sens. They are at risk of losing Marc Methot for nothing in the expansion draft. They know they would have lots of teams ready to make a very big deal for Ceci. Or, they can do a lesser deal for Phaneuf or Methot.

http://www.tsn.ca/off-sea...for-the-senators-1.779772
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: GMTM on Eichel: "He certainly won't get his pee pee slapped by me for being a little more outspoken., ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jun 15 @ 9:14 AM ET
I believe the Sens want to move Bobby Ryan. I do not think they want to move Phaneuf. But, it appears one of Methot, Ceci or Phaneuf has to be moved.

If they do move Phaneuf it will not take away from the fact that he had an outstanding season for the Sens and was a huge factor in their playoff run.

- spatso



No one said it did. Maybe it's his contract?

But they obviously targeted phanuef as the one to move or else they don't ask him to waive nmc.
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I genuinely think the IQ level is alot lower there than here, so I get to win more arguments. Walshy
Joined: 07.14.2011

Jun 15 @ 9:21 AM ET
"Top prospects"


- Feeling Glucky?

Byron Froese
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jun 15 @ 9:26 AM ET
No one said it did. Maybe it's his contract?

But they obviously targeted phanuef as the one to move or else they don't ask him to waive nmc.

- burn


This is actually a pretty good explanation of the Senator's short term issues in having to deal with a very strong group of Dmen and the expansion draft.

The Sens are very strong on D with a lot more really high end talent coming.

It really comes down to them having to decide between giving up Ceci or Methot if they don't move Phaneuf. Hard choices.

http://www.ottawasun.com/...ing-senators-to-trade-him

senstroll
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Sens Suck, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jun 15 @ 9:40 AM ET
Pierre Lebrun does a really nice job of explaining the options available to the Sens. They are at risk of losing Marc Methot for nothing in the expansion draft. They know they would have lots of teams ready to make a very big deal for Ceci. Or, they can do a lesser deal for Phaneuf or Methot.

http://www.tsn.ca/off-sea...for-the-senators-1.779772

- spatso


trade Ceci while teams still think he is any good

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