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Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

May 26 @ 10:36 AM ET
And "proper funding" got the leafs eliminated in the first round.

Ottawa played three rounds this year........... the leafs have played two rounds since 2005.


Look, we all know you're super jealous of the Senators great playoff round.......... they were within one goal of the Finals, but lost to the defending Cup Champs, and the favorites to win the Cup this year.

The leafs have been golfing for about a month now, so your little shots at the Sens have little effect on Sens fans ........... or anyone else who have been watching the Sens through three playoff rounds. We all know the Senators had a much better season this year than the leafs ......... so save your pathetic attempts to spin it the other way until next year ................. anymore posts trying to alter the reality of this season is be wasted and only proves the intense discomfort you and leaf fans like you have had for the past month ............ you're super jealous, and would have hoped the leafs would have had the same playoff run the Sens just completed, but they didn't because the Senators, once again are the better of the two Ontario teams, as they've been since the lock out.

- D0PPELGANGER

It's true, my little shots are just a drop in the ocean of the Sens fans' inferiority complex, that even the Ottawa media is reporting on.

Man, all it took was one sentence for you to go off with paragraphs worth of deflecting.

So rattled. So insecure.
prock
Nashville Predators
Location: Nice to know how comfortable t, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

May 26 @ 11:07 AM ET
It's true, my little shots are just a drop in the ocean of the Sens fans' inferiority complex, that even the Ottawa media is reporting on.

Man, all it took was one sentence for you to go off with paragraphs worth of deflecting.

So rattled. So insecure.

- Feeling Glucky?



I love how he doesn't even argue that they're not properly funded.

The funny part is, the Leafs are not "properly funded" right now, aka maxed out on salaries and cap hits. Because they weren't trying to compete for the cup.

So, the entire argument that "proper funding" didn't get the Leafs anywhere is flawed in it's very premise.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: he's 35, time to be fart the messenger boy.
Joined: 06.30.2006

May 26 @ 11:58 AM ET
Great Season, great Play off run, last Canadian team standing.............. now the long wait for next season.
- D0PPELGANGER


It was a great run, and a lot of fun for you guys.

Unfortunately, I think that was your window. A whole ton of things conspired to get you to where you were. A lot of those things also helped the Leafs even get a playoff spot.

I just don't see Ottawa good enough now, or with enough coming up and with that ownership, being able to keep up.

Reality for you...

Phaneuf 32, chewing up 7.0 of your budget for the next 4 years.... ROFL, talk that one up any way you want. He sucked.

Ryan, 30, chewing up 7.25 of your budget for 5 years. Had some bright spots in playoffs been useless for the year... will not improve at this point

MacArthur 32, 4.65 for 3 more years

Zack Smith 29, 3.25 for 4 more years

Turris, 27 Good second line center. At 27 he is not going to become more than that. He has one more year, and then he is going to get more than 4.

Anderson 36, Burrows 36, Methot 32, Brassard 29 ... not going to get better.

So 9 guys who are going to decline at this point. 4 guys making 22+ on a budget team, who are not tradeable,

You have Karlsson @6.5 for 2 more years... what do you think it takes to re-sign one of the top 5 players in the league?

Chabot is a promising prospect, but if your window isn't closed already, it is getting pretty damn close and next year will be a dog fight to make the playoffs.

... oh and when does Boucher's act expire? It always does.





Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: he's 35, time to be fart the messenger boy.
Joined: 06.30.2006

May 26 @ 12:05 PM ET
And "proper funding" got the leafs eliminated in the first round.


- D0PPELGANGER


Wow Dopps that is some weak sh1t right there. The entire league was surprised we even made the playoffs. We had the greatest rookie class ever, and you managed to poop on that. You are comparing your team, whose window is shutting to the accomplishments of a team whose window has only just opened.

Look at the ages, up-side and salary commitments compared to yours.

Your Budget team has 22+ million tied up in untradeable contracts on rapidly diminishing assets for 4 years or so. Our cap headaches are gone before we need the cash to sign our stars.

Good luck paying Karlsson in 2 years AND trying to ice a winning team with that ownership.

Maybe if the Ottawa CFL franchise folds, again.








Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: he's 35, time to be fart the messenger boy.
Joined: 06.30.2006

May 26 @ 12:08 PM ET
Their luck ran out.

Doubt it'll be back next year.

- Feeling Glucky?


The luck started with about 5 teams under-performing this year.

Look at the Sens roster. Who gets better... Ceci?

The other key players are who they are pretty much, or are on the decline.

Chabot is not going to save that team.
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

May 26 @ 1:07 PM ET
Wow Dopps that is some weak sh1t right there. The entire league was surprised we even made the playoffs. We had the greatest rookie class ever, and you managed to poop on that. You are comparing your team, whose window is shutting to the accomplishments of a team whose window has only just opened.

Look at the ages, up-side and salary commitments compared to yours.

Your Budget team has 22+ million tied up in untradeable contracts on rapidly diminishing assets for 4 years or so. Our cap headaches are gone before we need the cash to sign our stars.

Good luck paying Karlsson in 2 years AND trying to ice a winning team with that ownership.

Maybe if the Ottawa CFL franchise folds, again.

- Aetherial






You have not mentioned how your trip to Ottawa worked out.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: he's 35, time to be fart the messenger boy.
Joined: 06.30.2006

May 26 @ 1:19 PM ET
You have not mentioned how your trip to Ottawa worked out.
- D0PPELGANGER


yeah, I did? or at least I thought I did.

Unfortunately it didn't work out... we had some family commitments for my recently widowed mother-in-law.

I want to try again in the summer. The weather was crap this past weekend (in the GTA anyway) and hotels were very expensive. I think it will be a much nicer trip in the summer. My wife is a teacher so I just need to take one day and we can do a long weekend

Hockey question... from Ek's thread. How much do you give to get Vegas to take Ryan (if that kind of stuff is even being discussed). Someone said they would give the first. I don't give more than a 2nd, if that. That cap space will come in handy in a couple years to try to hold on to Karlsson. If he continues to play at this level, he is possibly a 11-12 million a year guy. Even a steep hometown discount would still put him at 9+
prock
Nashville Predators
Location: Nice to know how comfortable t, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

May 26 @ 1:28 PM ET
yeah, I did? or at least I thought I did.

Unfortunately it didn't work out... we had some family commitments for my recently widowed mother-in-law.

I want to try again in the summer. The weather was crap this past weekend (in the GTA anyway) and hotels were very expensive. I think it will be a much nicer trip in the summer. My wife is a teacher so I just need to take one day and we can do a long weekend

Hockey question... from Ek's thread. How much do you give to get Vegas to take Ryan (if that kid of stuff is even being discussed). Someone said they would give the first. I don't give more than a 2nd, if that. That cap space will come in handy in a couple years to try to hold on to Karlsson. If he continues to play at this level, he is possibly a 11-12 million a year guy. Even a steep hometown discount would still put him at 9+

- Aetherial



that's an eklund blog, talking about Bobby Ryan and a first.

I think that's probably in the right ballpark. The sens pick will be in the late 20s range. And Bobby Ryan is arguably the worst contract in the league. Him and Phaneuf are neck and neck. Who else is there?
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

May 26 @ 1:29 PM ET
It was a great run, and a lot of fun for you guys.

Unfortunately, I think that was your window. A whole ton of things conspired to get you to where you were. A lot of those things also helped the Leafs even get a playoff spot.

I just don't see Ottawa good enough now, or with enough coming up and with that ownership, being able to keep up.

Reality for you...

Phaneuf 32, chewing up 7.0 of your budget for the next 4 years.... ROFL, talk that one up any way you want. He sucked.

Ryan, 30, chewing up 7.25 of your budget for 5 years. Had some bright spots in playoffs been useless for the year... will not improve at this point

MacArthur 32, 4.65 for 3 more years

Zack Smith 29, 3.25 for 4 more years

Turris, 27 Good second line center. At 27 he is not going to become more than that. He has one more year, and then he is going to get more than 4.

Anderson 36, Burrows 36, Methot 32, Brassard 29 ... not going to get better.

So 9 guys who are going to decline at this point. 4 guys making 22+ on a budget team, who are not tradeable,

You have Karlsson @6.5 for 2 more years... what do you think it takes to re-sign one of the top 5 players in the league?

Chabot is a promising prospect, but if your window isn't closed already, it is getting pretty damn close and next year will be a dog fight to make the playoffs.

... oh and when does Boucher's act expire? It always does.

- Aetherial

To be fair, cap hits don't represent Ottawa's budget.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: he's 35, time to be fart the messenger boy.
Joined: 06.30.2006

May 26 @ 2:26 PM ET
To be fair, cap hits don't represent Ottawa's budget.
- Feeling Glucky?


Well he is getting paid also, as is Phaneuf...

BetterCallSaul
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Canuck fans are the middle child of the NHL.
Joined: 05.07.2013

May 27 @ 3:14 PM ET
And "proper funding" got the leafs eliminated in the first round.

Ottawa played three rounds this year........... the leafs have played two rounds since 2005.


Look, we all know you're super jealous of the Senators great playoff round.......... they were within one goal of the Finals, but lost to the defending Cup Champs, and the favorites to win the Cup this year.

The leafs have been golfing for about a month now, so your little shots at the Sens have little effect on Sens fans ........... or anyone else who have been watching the Sens through three playoff rounds. We all know the Senators had a much better season this year than the leafs ......... so save your pathetic attempts to spin it the other way until next year ................. anymore posts trying to alter the reality of this season is be wasted and only proves the intense discomfort you and leaf fans like you have had for the past month ............ you're super jealous, and would have hoped the leafs would have had the same playoff run the Sens just completed, but they didn't because the Senators, once again are the better of the two Ontario teams, as they've been since the lock out.

- D0PPELGANGER

It's too bad the poorly planned parking lot kept most of you from actually going to the games in those three series to show support for your team.
penguininnevada
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: i think i need an actual gun pressed between my eyes
Joined: 09.01.2008

May 27 @ 4:02 PM ET
It was a great run, and a lot of fun for you guys.

Unfortunately, I think that was your window. A whole ton of things conspired to get you to where you were. A lot of those things also helped the Leafs even get a playoff spot.

I just don't see Ottawa good enough now, or with enough coming up and with that ownership, being able to keep up.

Reality for you...

Phaneuf 32, chewing up 7.0 of your budget for the next 4 years.... ROFL, talk that one up any way you want. He sucked.

Ryan, 30, chewing up 7.25 of your budget for 5 years. Had some bright spots in playoffs been useless for the year... will not improve at this point

MacArthur 32, 4.65 for 3 more years

Zack Smith 29, 3.25 for 4 more years

Turris, 27 Good second line center. At 27 he is not going to become more than that. He has one more year, and then he is going to get more than 4.

Anderson 36, Burrows 36, Methot 32, Brassard 29 ... not going to get better.

So 9 guys who are going to decline at this point. 4 guys making 22+ on a budget team, who are not tradeable,

You have Karlsson @6.5 for 2 more years... what do you think it takes to re-sign one of the top 5 players in the league?

Chabot is a promising prospect, but if your window isn't closed already, it is getting pretty damn close and next year will be a dog fight to make the playoffs.

... oh and when does Boucher's act expire? It always does.

- Aetherial


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