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D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

May 1 @ 9:32 AM ET
Spatso think the Sens will trade for Duchene.

Sens trade for Wingels, Burrows and Stalberg


- walshyleafsfan



All great depth players, and all now playing in the second round.
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

May 1 @ 9:35 AM ET
sens fans think their old roster is set for a deep playoff run. melynk has them all drinking the kool-aid.
- Tumbleweed




By "deep" do you mean past the second round?


If so they have pretty good chance at getting to the 3rd round .................. but I don't count out the Rangers just yet .......... so you may end up having the last laugh yet.
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

May 1 @ 9:44 AM ET
pretty funny to watch the leafs fans scramble around in here the last few pages
- Crimsoninja



Ever since the leafs were eliminated, and the Senators advanced ........... they been severely rattled, and are having a hard time grasping reality .......... all those advanced analyitics predicted the Senators would drop out of playoff contention, and miss the playoffs........... but that did not happen, they actually secured home ice for the first round ................. so then the Bruins were supposed to eliminate the Senators, ALL the "underlying numbers" told the leaf fans so .............. but that didn't happen either.

So they're Rattled.
senstroll
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Sens Suck, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

May 1 @ 10:05 AM ET
Ever since the leafs were eliminated, and the Senators advanced ........... they been severely rattled, and are having a hard time grasping reality .......... all those advanced analyitics predicted the Senators would drop out of playoff contention, and miss the playoffs........... but that did not happen, they actually secured home ice for the first round ................. so then the Bruins were supposed to eliminate the Senators, ALL the "underlying numbers" told the leaf fans so .............. but that didn't happen either.

So they're Rattled.

- D0PPELGANGER


The Sens window is now, they have to win these games or its a huge swing and a miss for them. So far its worked out. But the playoffs are not half over yet.

I have no problem with how the season played out for the Leafs.
A lottery team took the Caps to 6 games and it was a lot closer than anyone thought.


Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: desert ridge
Joined: 03.14.2014

May 1 @ 10:43 AM ET
Ever since the leafs were eliminated, and the Senators advanced ........... they been severely rattled, and are having a hard time grasping reality .......... all those advanced analyitics predicted the Senators would drop out of playoff contention, and miss the playoffs........... but that did not happen, they actually secured home ice for the first round ................. so then the Bruins were supposed to eliminate the Senators, ALL the "underlying numbers" told the leaf fans so .............. but that didn't happen either.

So they're Rattled.

- D0PPELGANGER


meh.

sens have exceeded your expectations too
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: he's 35, time to be fart the messenger boy.
Joined: 06.30.2006

May 1 @ 10:56 AM ET

- daeth


Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: he's 35, time to be fart the messenger boy.
Joined: 06.30.2006

May 1 @ 10:57 AM ET
Ever since the leafs were eliminated, and the Senators advanced ........... they been severely rattled, and are having a hard time grasping reality .......... all those advanced analyitics predicted the Senators would drop out of playoff contention, and miss the playoffs........... but that did not happen, they actually secured home ice for the first round ................. so then the Bruins were supposed to eliminate the Senators, ALL the "underlying numbers" told the leaf fans so .............. but that didn't happen either.

So they're Rattled.

- D0PPELGANGER


just waiting...

senstroll
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Sens Suck, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

May 1 @ 12:24 PM ET
Rangers in 6
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

May 1 @ 12:36 PM ET
Rangers in 6
- senstroll



Very well could happen.

There are a lot of "numbers" being thrown around that some Sens fans think might show an edge for the Sens in this series, such as Craig Anderson's record of 7-1-1 in MSG, coupled with a 2-0 series lead.

I always warn about "counting chickens....." and until the Sens win one game on the Rangers home ice, I'm still not going to say this series is even close to being over.

http://www.whowins.com/2017series/nhl2017i.html
HISTORICAL VICTORY PROBABILITIES: Leading 2-games-nil:
Ignoring win order; ignoring site order: The team leading 2-games-nil irrespective of site order (Ottawa) has the following best-of-7 playoff series and games record through the 2017 NHL Preliminary round:
series record, all best-of-7 sports, all rounds: 637-79 (.890)
series record, all best-of-7 sports, Quarterfinals round: 196-21 (.903)
series record, NHL only, all rounds: 308-48 (.865)
series record, NHL only, Quarterfinals round: 94-16 (.855)
Game 3 record, all best-of-7 sports, all rounds: 344-372 (.480)
Game 3 record, all best-of-7 sports, Quarterfinals round: 109-108 (.502)
Game 3 record, NHL only, all rounds: 187-169 (.525)
Game 3 record, NHL only, Quarterfinals round: 64-46 (.582)
These records are drawn from the applicable 1327 best-of-7 NHL, NBA, and MLB series played through the 2017 NHL Preliminary round. Note in general that the greater the number of games or series fitting a particular situation, the greater the significance of the corresponding winning fraction: For example, 0.800 is far more likely to come closer to the true winning fraction in a given situation when the corresponding win-loss record is 400-100 rather than 4-1.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

May 1 @ 12:51 PM ET
Methinks that Ottawa have much better odds this year, than the 2018 Stanley Cup Champions leafs do.

- D0PPELGANGER

0 is not higher than 0.

I know math is hard for you, but this is basic stuff.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

May 1 @ 12:53 PM ET
No, they are just another tool, in assessing a player or prospect, or perhaps a teams tendencies .......... but it is not the magic elixir that some of you leaf fans make it out to be ................... if it was, NHL teams would have slashed their Scouting staffs, and eliminate prospect interviews.

As I've said for years now, analytics were Taylor made for MLB, and has much much less of an impact on the NHL.

- D0PPELGANGER

Care to cite where anyone has claimed this?
golfingsince
Location: The losers tonight are the people.-QP
Joined: 11.30.2011

May 1 @ 1:03 PM ET
ODDS TO WIN 2017 STANLEY CUP (6/25/17)
Team Odds
Pittsburgh Penguins 2/1
Edmonton Oilers 17/4
Nashville Predators 17/4
Ottawa Senators 13/2
Anaheim Ducks 8/1
Washington Capitals 8/1
New York Rangers 14/1
St. Louis Blues 14/1

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