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prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Apr 11 @ 8:22 AM ET
No, by having 2nd place in your grasp and losing 3 of the last 4 at home to fall to 8th and play the best team in the league. Choke
- haywoodjablome



nahahaha, senaturd fans were claiming they'd pass Montreal and take first in the division.

Choke.
twiztedmike
Seattle Kraken
Joined: 10.06.2007

Apr 11 @ 8:23 AM ET
haywoodjagetlaid
haywoodjablome
Joined: 05.09.2014

Apr 11 @ 8:29 AM ET
nahahaha, senaturd fans were claiming they'd pass Montreal and take first in the division.

Choke.

- prock


Senaturds? I see you've brought your A game today. Haha

I suppose I should counter with a laffs
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Apr 11 @ 8:46 AM ET
It's even more rare a team with only 38 wins in regulation and overtime makes the playoffs.

Playing the senaturds would have been amazing. Easy win for the Leafs.

- prock


When talking about the playoffs, and then trying to spin a negative by adding Regulation wins and OT together is laughable.

The only true comparison is Regulation wins A.K.A 5 vs 5.

The Bruins have the edge in Regulation wins 38 - 34 over the Sens.

While the crapple laffs had 33 Regulation wins, vs the Capitals 45.

The crapple laffs only managed to squeak into the plays, on the strength of there loser points.

The loser points leader leafs finished with fewer Wins, than the two teams behind them in the Conference............ so failure to win in overtime and shootouts is what propelled the crapple laffs into the playoffs.


Good luck vs the Capitals.
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Apr 11 @ 8:50 AM ET
nahahaha, senaturd fans were claiming they'd pass Montreal and take first in the division.

Choke.

- prock



this coming from the crapple laffs fan who predicted the crapple laffs would catch and pass the Senators, and end up higher in the Division standings.

crappled the bed, again.





Good luck vs the Capitals
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Apr 11 @ 9:12 AM ET
I expect their expectation s would have been lowered regardless of whether they faced ottawa or Washington, knowing full well that they wouldn't be able to beat either team. Obviously more lowered against the caps though, being completely outmatched (by a ridiculous margin) at every position.
- haywoodjablome



senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Apr 11 @ 9:26 AM ET
When talking about the playoffs, and then trying to spin a negative by adding Regulation wins and OT together is laughable.

The only true comparison is Regulation wins A.K.A 5 vs 5.

The Bruins have the edge in Regulation wins 38 - 34 over the Sens.

While the crapple laffs had 33 Regulation wins, vs the Capitals 45.

The crapple laffs only managed to squeak into the plays, on the strength of there loser points.

The loser points leader leafs finished with fewer Wins, than the two teams behind them in the Conference............ so failure to win in overtime and shootouts is what propelled the crapple laffs into the playoffs.


Good luck vs the Capitals.

- D0PPELGANGER


you are something

Failure to get extra points is what got the leafs into the playoffs .. JFC
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Apr 11 @ 9:43 AM ET
you are something

Failure to get extra points is what got the leafs into the playoffs .. JFC

- senstroll



senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Apr 11 @ 9:59 AM ET

- burn


So dumb

The Caps spent the most time in the NHL leading games, the Leafs were #2

Good teams get leads (Leafs), really good teams are able to keep them and win the games (Caps), the Leafs had some trouble early on doing that, the 2nd half was much better. A young team getting better.

but loser points derp!

haywoodjablome
Joined: 05.09.2014

Apr 11 @ 10:06 AM ET
So dumb

The Caps spent the most time in the NHL leading games, the Leafs were #2

Good teams get leads (Leafs), really good teams are able to keep them and win the games (Caps), the Leafs had some trouble early on doing that, the 2nd half was much better. A young team getting better.

but loser points derp!

- senstroll


Good teams get AND hold leads. (Caps)

One dimensional teams with AWFUL defence and mediocre goaltending get leads and then blow them. (Laffs)
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Apr 11 @ 10:10 AM ET
Good teams get AND hold leads. (Caps)

One dimensional teams with AWFUL defence and mediocre goaltending get leads and then blow them. (Laffs)

- haywoodjablome


Yes thats what I said

Do you have any thoughts on Teams failing to get extra points that helps them get into the playoffs?
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Apr 11 @ 10:13 AM ET
So dumb

The Caps spent the most time in the NHL leading games, the Leafs were #2

Good teams get leads (Leafs), really good teams are able to keep them and win the games (Caps), the Leafs had some trouble early on doing that, the 2nd half was much better. A young team getting better.

but loser points derp!

- senstroll



Good teams win in regulation, the leafs fell short.

The Capitals managed to hold most of their leads, while the leafs blew most of their leads and that's expected from a team that has not completed their re-build, and has gaping holes on their defense, and yet another, in a long line of back-up goaltenders that they've traded for, and are trying again to convert into a starter that can cover up the mistakes from a porous defensive corp.

Playoff games are 5 vs 5, so how a team plays, with the lead in close games, and the ability to hold that lead, gives you a better indication on how a team will perform in the playoffs.




good luck vs the Capitals
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Apr 11 @ 10:15 AM ET
Good teams get AND hold leads. (Caps)

One dimensional teams with AWFUL defence and mediocre goaltending get leads and then blow them. (Laffs)

- haywoodjablome



The Leafs had one of the best records in the league over the second half of the season.

the senaturds certainly did not.

So, which dimension have the senatards been missing?
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Apr 11 @ 10:16 AM ET
Yes thats what I said

Do you have any thoughts on Teams failing to get extra points that helps them get into the playoffs?

- senstroll




The only thing in the regular season, that compares favourably to the playoffs, is 5 vs 5 regulation wins.

You are hanging onto regular season 3 vs 3 OT and Shootouts ............. which don't happen in the playoffs .............. you've got to drop that bone, it's irrelevant to the playoffs.




good luck vs the Capitals
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Apr 11 @ 10:18 AM ET
Good teams win in regulation, the leafs fell short.

The Capitals managed to hold most of their leads, while the leafs blew most of their leads and that's expected from a team that has not completed their re-build, and has gaping holes on their defense, and yet another, in a long line of back-up goaltenders that they've traded for, and are trying again to convert into a starter that can cover up the mistakes from a porous defensive corp.

Playoff games are 5 vs 5, so how a team plays, with the lead in close games, and the ability to hold that lead, gives you a better indication on how a team will perform in the playoffs.




good luck vs the Capitals

- D0PPELGANGER



somewhat true, they're kids, and they're learning. We're all actually amazed at how fast they're learning. It's a pretty phenomenal sign for the future.

I personally put them as the favourite for the division next year. Which is fantastic. The goal has never been to JUST make the playoffs. Not for the Leafs anyway.
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Apr 11 @ 10:19 AM ET
The Leafs had one of the best records in the league over the second half of the season.

the senaturds certainly did not.

So, which dimension have the senatards been missing?

- prock




The Senators and the crapple laffs both played a 82 game season, so you can slice and dice all you want, in a weak attempt to find the silver lining you want.

End of the day, the final standings show how the teams measure up, and get seeded for the playoffs.




good luck vs the Capitals
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Apr 11 @ 10:22 AM ET
Good teams win in regulation, the leafs fell short.

The Capitals managed to hold most of their leads, while the leafs blew most of their leads and that's expected from a team that has not completed their re-build, and has gaping holes on their defense, and yet another, in a long line of back-up goaltenders that they've traded for, and are trying again to convert into a starter that can cover up the mistakes from a porous defensive corp.

Playoff games are 5 vs 5, so how a team plays, with the lead in close games, and the ability to hold that lead, gives you a better indication on how a team will perform in the playoffs.




good luck vs the Capitals

- D0PPELGANGER


If we look at Score and Venue adjusted 5v5 CF%

Overall in the NHL
1 -Bruins
3- Caps
9 - Leafs
22- Sens




daeth
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: accuratently, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Apr 11 @ 10:25 AM ET
There's no way these guys aren't Leafs fans posing as Sens fans just to make Sens fans look stupid. There's no other explanation.
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Apr 11 @ 10:27 AM ET
somewhat true, they're kids, and they're learning. We're all actually amazed at how fast they're learning. It's a pretty phenomenal sign for the future.

I personally put them as the favourite for the division next year. Which is fantastic. The goal has never been to JUST make the playoffs. Not for the Leafs anyway.

- prock




And I can agree pretty much with what you say, in this post.

You and I BOTH, at the beginning of the season, posted that we both thought the two Ontario teams would, at best, be in the mix to compete for a WC spot.

Both teams exceeded both of our expectations.

I suspect the leafs had one of the biggest improvements, in points, in the NHL........... don't know where to look that up though.

Senators set a of goal of making the playoffs (GM announced in the Media) and now they're setting the goal of winning the first round vs the Bruins .............. and even with Home Ice, which is overrated in my opinion, I see this series as going either way, a 50/50 chance for both teams, and will most likely be determined, partially on injuries and which goaltender plays better ............ a coin flip if you wish.


I don't see the leafs vs the Capitals going the leafs way ........... but they've exceeded everyone's expectations to date.
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Apr 11 @ 10:27 AM ET
The only thing in the regular season, that compares favourably to the playoffs, is 5 vs 5 regulation wins.

You are hanging onto regular season 3 vs 3 OT and Shootouts ............. which don't happen in the playoffs .............. you've got to drop that bone, it's irrelevant to the playoffs.




good luck vs the Capitals

- D0PPELGANGER


I am not hanging on to anything.
The Leafs got a lot of games to OT in the regular season. A large part of that was because they were leading, but were not able to hold on to the Lead.

the caps are the best team in the League, best goal differential and most time spend leading. Its a long shot the Leafs win, but thats ok
haywoodjablome
Joined: 05.09.2014

Apr 11 @ 10:29 AM ET
There's no way these guys aren't Leafs fans posing as Sens fans just to make Sens fans look stupid. There's no other explanation.
- daeth


I think most have assumed the same about you clowns for years.
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Apr 11 @ 10:30 AM ET
I think most have assumed the same about you clowns for years.
- haywoodjablome


^ this one is Rattled
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Apr 11 @ 10:33 AM ET
If we look at Score and Venue adjusted 5v5 CF%

Overall in the NHL
1 -Bruins
3- Caps
9 - Leafs
22- Sens





- senstroll




The NHL determines wins based on who scored the most goals in a game.

Pull out your fancy boy stats all you want, and you can rationalize anything you want, but at the end of the day, fancy boy stats don't determine the standings or the outcomes of games, or playoff series.





Two teams, the Coyotes and the Panthers, last off season, went all in on Analytics, to how to structure their teams. They traded and drafted all based on Analytics, and structured their entire organiztion and systems based on Analytics .................. what happened to these two teams, that like you, put all their money on Analytics?
haywoodjablome
Joined: 05.09.2014

Apr 11 @ 10:34 AM ET
^ this one is Rattled
- senstroll


By what? The knowledge that ottawa has a better chance of advancing then the leafs do of even winning a game.
daeth
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: accuratently, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Apr 11 @ 10:35 AM ET
I think most have assumed the same about you clowns for years.
- haywoodjablome

You're not very good at this thinking thing.
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