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Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Apr 10 @ 9:31 AM ET
I think the same could be said about leaf fans constantly trashing every single thing about the Senators, this season. Prock practically (in this thread) does nothing else but.

So there's enough rock throwing in glass houses to go around for everyone.


- D0PPELGANGER

The only really inaccurate thing there is Condon. Sens got very lucky with him playing above what was expected.

The underlying numbers don't lie though. Unless something major happens this summer, Ottawa is likely to be a bottom dweller next season.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Boyle > Marleau :dopes, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Apr 10 @ 10:18 AM ET
I think the same could be said about leaf fans constantly trashing every single thing about the Senators, this season. Prock practically (in this thread) does nothing else but.

So there's enough rock throwing in glass houses to go around for everyone.





















- D0PPELGANGER


None of that is proven to be false yet and none them changed their stance and claimed something different From what they were spewing months ago
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Apr 10 @ 10:33 AM ET
I think the same could be said about leaf fans constantly trashing every single thing about the Senators, this season. Prock practically (in this thread) does nothing else but.

So there's enough rock throwing in glass houses to go around for everyone.





















- D0PPELGANGER


idont see why you quote those things. saying they only had a 656 rec9rd because of an easy stretch us accurate. they finished much lower.

condon earning them 2 or 3 more wins is true. in fact, they really only made the playoffs based on a few shootout goals.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Apr 10 @ 10:52 AM ET
Funny thing about those "underlying numbers" that you so frequency depend on, to prove how bad Ottawa is going to be in the future ........... and you and others have been predicting the "sinking to the bottom of the standings" all season long ............. perhaps you put way to much stock in those "underlying numbers" , because they've proven that your Soothsaying ability is about as good as the leafs holding on to a 2 goal lead, when they've dressed their best possible line up vs a Columbus team resting much of their roster in a mean nothing game to them, and an everything is on the line game for the leafs .............. who surrender a short handed GWG on top of that.



good luck vs the Capitals

- D0PPELGANGER

I don't know if you noticed, but your team, in your own words, backed into a playoff spot. That regression will continue into next season, unless something is to change this summer. Which, given the cheap owner, is likely, but in the wrong direction.

I wonder what "top prospects" will be traded for over-the-hill talent, and then be dismissed as nothing by Sens fans.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Apr 10 @ 11:27 AM ET
Funny thing about those "underlying numbers" that you so frequency depend on, to prove how bad Ottawa is going to be in the future ........... and you and others have been predicting the "sinking to the bottom of the standings" all season long ............. perhaps you put way to much stock in those "underlying numbers" , because they've proven that your Soothsaying ability is about as good as the leafs holding on to a 2 goal lead, when they've dressed their best possible line up vs a Columbus team resting much of their roster in a mean nothing game to them, and an everything is on the line game for the leafs .............. who surrender a short handed GWG on top of that.



good luck vs the Capitals

- D0PPELGANGER


You don't really need to go to underlying numbers. Fact - the senaturds have been a bottom 10 team over the last month.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Apr 10 @ 11:37 AM ET
I don't know if you noticed, but your team, in your own words, backed into a playoff spot. That regression will continue into next season, unless something is to change this summer. Which, given the cheap owner, is likely, but in the wrong direction.

I wonder what "top prospects" will be traded for over-the-hill talent, and then be dismissed as nothing by Sens fans.

- Feeling Glucky?



Very interesting news report on right now, the MLSE is having trouble scheduling games, because of conflicts with Raptors games. They're describing it as an "embarrassment of riches". I think this could turn into a real problem in coming years, with as much as 10 home games to schedule for each team.

Lucky for Melnickel he won't have that issue, for many reasons.
senstroll
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Sens Suck, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Apr 10 @ 11:45 AM ET
I don't know if you noticed, but your team, in your own words, backed into a playoff spot. That regression will continue into next season, unless something is to change this summer. Which, given the cheap owner, is likely, but in the wrong direction.

I wonder what "top prospects" will be traded for over-the-hill talent, and then be dismissed as nothing by Sens fans.

- Feeling Glucky?


I think you are over stating how bad they are in terms of stats. I think they are the weakest playoff team. they are not a great possession team, and do not have positive goal differential. there is a bunch of other stuff I wont get into

They are basically a fringe playoff team with decent goalies. Next Season I would expect a step back, but not a lottery team unless something catastrophic happens like Anderson is injured or Karlsson



Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: everyday i see my dream
Joined: 03.14.2014

Apr 10 @ 11:48 AM ET
I think you are over stating how bad they are in terms of stats. I think they are the weakest playoff team. they are not a great possession team, and do not have positive goal differential. there is a bunch of other stuff I wont get into

They are basically a fringe playoff team with decent goalies. Next Season I would expect a step back, but not a lottery team unless something catastrophic happens like Anderson is injured or Karlsson

- senstroll


agreed. 7-11 and at best a 1st round exit is where they are trending to be next year.
senstroll
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Sens Suck, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Apr 10 @ 11:57 AM ET
agreed. 7-11 and at best a 1st round exit is where they are trending to be next year.
- Tumbleweed


And I am good with that, its a bad place to be. thats speaking from years of crappy Leafs teams experience.

Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: everyday i see my dream
Joined: 03.14.2014

Apr 10 @ 12:08 PM ET
And I am good with that, its a bad place to be. thats speaking from years of crappy Leafs teams experience.
- senstroll


yup. pointless. and being close, they give you false hope. if only they could stay healthy, add x and be a little more consistent. Masks the reality of being not good as the problem.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Apr 10 @ 12:19 PM ET
yup. pointless. and being close, they give you false hope. if only they could stay healthy, add x and be a little more consistent. Masks the reality of being not good as the problem.
- Tumbleweed



years of "our goal is to make the playoffs, then, anything can happen" from the Leafs. Makes me wanna puke. "Anything" doesn't happen. Top teams win cups, not teams that go into the playoffs, with what is essentially an admission that they have no chance.
habman75
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Une plotzza, une plotine, and , QC
Joined: 09.07.2007

Apr 10 @ 2:13 PM ET
Funny thing about those "underlying numbers" that you so frequency depend on, to prove how bad Ottawa is going to be in the future ........... and you and others have been predicting the "sinking to the bottom of the standings" all season long ............. perhaps you put way to much stock in those "underlying numbers" , because they've proven that your Soothsaying ability is about as good as the leafs holding on to a 2 goal lead, when they've dressed their best possible line up vs a Columbus team resting much of their roster in a mean nothing game to them, and an everything is on the line game for the leafs .............. who surrender a short handed GWG on top of that.



good luck vs the Capitals

- D0PPELGANGER


Are you at least willing to admit that you aggressively want to tickle Glucker's butthole with your tongue. He won't admit he want's to tickle yours, but the back and forth action makes it pretty clear.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: everyday i see my dream
Joined: 03.14.2014

Apr 10 @ 5:22 PM ET
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Apr 10 @ 9:31 PM ET
Great year. I think the Sens win against Bruins. But not as easily as in the regular season.
Pie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: taking the low road
Joined: 10.14.2006

Apr 10 @ 10:34 PM ET
Great year. I think the Sens win against Bruins. But not as easily as in the regular season.
- spatso

maybe, maybe not
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Apr 11 @ 6:52 AM ET
maybe, maybe not
- Pie

I think he's right, and the Sens can pull off a win.

Bruins might come out underestimating the Sens one night.
TheTaoOfSemenko
Vegas Golden Knights
Joined: 07.01.2009

Apr 11 @ 6:56 AM ET
No, not a new idea from me. I believe Leafs are a dangerous first round opponent (even for Washington) because of the style of game they play. They attack with speed and abandon, they maintain great intensity in the offensive zone.

They will not surprise anyone. Washington knows what the Leafs can do in terms of firepower and they will try to shut them down. But I still expect the series to go 6 or 7 games and the Leafs to make a good show.

I believe the Leafs have dodged a bit of a bullet. Had they they played Ottawa the expectations and pressure on a very young team would have been enormous. Now both the expectations and pressure have been lowered. They will not be swept by the Capitals and if the Leafs can get a split on the first four games it will be the Caps that are feeling the pressure.

- spatso

The Leafs dodged a bullet....by not drawing the Sens and playing the Capitals...

Amazing.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Apr 11 @ 7:20 AM ET
The Leafs dodged a bullet....by not drawing the Sens and playing the Capitals...

Amazing.

- TheTaoOfSemenko

It's true, now the Leafs will get a taste of playoff hockey right off the bat, instead of having lowered expectations for 4 game and then getting spanked by a real opponent.
haywoodjablome
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 05.09.2014

Apr 11 @ 7:40 AM ET
The Leafs dodged a bullet....by not drawing the Sens and playing the Capitals...

Amazing.

- TheTaoOfSemenko


The team certainly didn't but the fans did. Leafs fans would have been infinitely more butthurt losing to ottawa in 5 then they will be after getting swept by Washington.
haywoodjablome
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 05.09.2014

Apr 11 @ 7:43 AM ET
It's true, now the Leafs will get a taste of playoff hockey right off the bat, instead of having lowered expectations for 4 game and then getting spanked by a real opponent.
- Feeling Glucky?


I expect their expectation s would have been lowered regardless of whether they faced ottawa or Washington, knowing full well that they wouldn't be able to beat either team. Obviously more lowered against the caps though, being completely outmatched (by a ridiculous margin) at every position.
haywoodjablome
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 05.09.2014

Apr 11 @ 7:44 AM ET
Enjoy your r extra 4 games though leaf fans, it's not every day a 42 loss team makes the playoffs.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Apr 11 @ 8:05 AM ET
Enjoy your r extra 4 games though leaf fans, it's not every day a 42 loss team makes the playoffs.
- haywoodjablome


It's even more rare a team with only 38 wins in regulation and overtime makes the playoffs.

Playing the senaturds would have been amazing. Easy win for the Leafs.
haywoodjablome
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 05.09.2014

Apr 11 @ 8:10 AM ET
It's even more rare a team with only 38 wins in regulation and overtime makes the playoffs.

Playing the senaturds would have been amazing. Easy win for the Leafs.

- prock


I guess we'll never know since the leafs did typical leafy things and choked hard down the stretch.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Apr 11 @ 8:16 AM ET
I guess we'll never know since the leafs did typical leafy things and choked hard down the stretch.
- haywoodjablome



By beating Pittsburgh to make the playoffs, and being a top 5 NHL team in the last month of the season?

Such chokers.

Who's alt is this? Stupidity like this could only be fabricated.
haywoodjablome
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 05.09.2014

Apr 11 @ 8:18 AM ET
By beating Pittsburgh to make the playoffs, and being a top 5 NHL team in the last month of the season?

Such chokers.

Who's alt is this? Stupidity like this could only be fabricated.

- prock


No, by having 2nd place in your grasp and losing 3 of the last 4 at home to fall to 8th and play the best team in the league. Choke
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