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spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Apr 7 @ 3:03 PM ET
Not really no. I think Boston will key on his side of the ice, and score a tonne of goals.

I think they're licking their chops right now, being this fortunate.

- prock


Not according to Boston broadcasters and fans. Boston had 3 shots on goal in the third period last night. Fans were booing in the final minutes as they hung back with the puck and refused to attack in order to secure a point.

Ottawa was 4-0-0 against Boston this year.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Apr 7 @ 3:09 PM ET
Not according to Boston broadcasters and fans. Boston had 3 shots on goal in the third period last night. Fans were booing in the final minutes as they hung back with the puck and refused to attack in order to secure a point.

Ottawa was 4-0-0 against Boston this year.

- spatso

You have to think that Boston is happy to match up against the weakest team in the playoffs right now. One needs to wonder if they didn't sit back a bit to make sure they had the best chance at facing them.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Apr 7 @ 3:10 PM ET
You guys are starting your summer talk way too soon. Leafs will make playoffs. There is still more hockey to play.
- spatso

Leafs fans know our team isn't winning the cup this season, no harm looking into the future, as we have a very exciting one.


I understand why it's a subject that you, as an Ottawa fan, might be a bit touchy about.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Apr 7 @ 3:20 PM ET
You guys are starting your summer talk way too soon. Leafs will make playoffs. There is still more hockey to play.
- spatso



I don't know how many times I have to say it, playoffs this year is not the Leafs end goal. The Cup is, as early as 2 years from now. The playoffs would be nice, but it's just icing on the cake for us.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Apr 7 @ 3:21 PM ET
You have to think that Boston is happy to match up against the weakest team in the playoffs right now. One needs to wonder if they didn't sit back a bit to make sure they had the best chance at facing them.
- Feeling Glucky?



Why is nobody discussing this? I think it needs to be considered.
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Apr 7 @ 4:15 PM ET
Leafs fans know our team isn't winning the cup this season, no harm looking into the future, as we have a very exciting one.


I understand why it's a subject that you, as an Ottawa fan, might be a bit touchy about.

- Feeling Glucky?


To be completely honest, no Sens fan, that I know, see's the Sens winning the Cup this season.

From my point of view, this season was all about establishing a system that works the best, with the current roster of players, that leads to making the playoffs. That was the stated goal prior to the season made in the media by the GM.

I don't see this team winning more than two rounds, but at least one round.

I also am looking towards the next season, and see how much more they can build on the success of this season. There are a some new younger players that could be added to the roster, maybe not right from the start of the season, but at some point during the season. There will be some roster spots opening up, with older players being not offered new contracts, and at least one player taken in the expansion draft.
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Apr 7 @ 4:20 PM ET
Why is nobody discussing this? I think it needs to be considered.
- prock



The weakest team in the playoffs, will be one of the three teams in the mix for the last WC spot that's left available.

It's possible that we won't know which team that is until Sunday night.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Apr 7 @ 4:27 PM ET
To be completely honest, no Sens fan, that I know, see's the Sens winning the Cup this season.

From my point of view, this season was all about establishing a system that works the best, with the current roster of players, that leads to making the playoffs. That was the stated goal prior to the season made in the media by the GM.

I don't see this team winning more than two rounds, but at least one round.

I also am looking towards the next season, and see how much more they can build on the success of this season. There are a some new younger players that could be added to the roster, maybe not right from the start of the season, but at some point during the season. There will be some roster spots opening up, with older players being not offered new contracts, and at least one player taken in the expansion draft.

- D0PPELGANGER


I'm not sure where you see much improvement coming from.

Phaneuf and Methot, two guys you are counting on as key players, are on the downside of their careers. You'll need to replace Anderson in the near future.

Crappy contracts on Phaneuf and Ryan, leave little budget or cap space, and what's left will be needed to re-sign guys like Stone and Turris, and given their your first line, they'll need raises. Not that I think he deserves one, but Ceci may get a raise too.

I just don't see where the sens have any room to improve. They're going to have to fight the decline and loss of some of their key players.

Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Apr 7 @ 4:30 PM ET
I'm not sure where you see much improvement coming from.

Phaneuf and Methot, two guys you are counting on as key players, are on the downside of their careers. You'll need to replace Anderson in the near future.

Crappy contracts on Phaneuf and Ryan, leave little budget or cap space, and what's left will be needed to re-sign guys like Stone and Turris, and given their your first line, they'll need raises. Not that I think he deserves one, but Ceci may get a raise too.

I just don't see where the sens have any room to improve. They're going to have to fight the decline and loss of some of their key players.

- prock

A poor current roster, with declining players, a cheap owner, and almost no prospects worth any consideration.

Good luck Ottawa!
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Apr 7 @ 4:31 PM ET
The weakest team in the playoffs, will be one of the three teams in the mix for the last WC spot that's left available.

It's possible that we won't know which team that is until Sunday night.

- D0PPELGANGER



I'm not sure why you say that. Even if you think the sens are better than the other 3 teams, which isn't necessarily true (I assume you'll point to the standings), when you factor in Methot and Ceci out, and Karlsson banged up, not only would the sens be the weakest team, they'd be the weakest team by a country mile.

I think a quick look at how each team has been doing in the past month or so, might give some insight into how good each team may be, at THIS point in time. I would also definitely say that the closest rosters to what each team goes into the playoffs with, isn't really established until the trade deadline.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Apr 7 @ 4:36 PM ET
I'm not sure why you say that. Even if you think the sens are better than the other 3 teams, which isn't necessarily true (I assume you'll point to the standings), when you factor in Methot and Ceci out, and Karlsson banged up, not only would the sens be the weakest team, they'd be the weakest team by a country mile.

I think a quick look at how each team has been doing in the past month or so, might give some insight into how good each team may be, at THIS point in time. I would also definitely say that the closest rosters to what each team goes into the playoffs with, isn't really established until the trade deadline.

- prock


Sens could be 100% healthy, and they're still the best team for anyone to match up against. No firepower to keep up in the playoffs.
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Apr 7 @ 11:33 PM ET



spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Apr 8 @ 4:40 AM ET
I'm not sure why you say that. Even if you think the sens are better than the other 3 teams, which isn't necessarily true (I assume you'll point to the standings), when you factor in Methot and Ceci out, and Karlsson banged up, not only would the sens be the weakest team, they'd be the weakest team by a country mile.

I think a quick look at how each team has been doing in the past month or so, might give some insight into how good each team may be, at THIS point in time. I would also definitely say that the closest rosters to what each team goes into the playoffs with, isn't really established until the trade deadline.

- prock


I really am disappointed with Leaf fans. They have put together a nice season and you guys have already moved into full summer talk mode. Slow down enjoy the ride.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Apr 8 @ 4:59 AM ET
A poor current roster, with declining players, a cheap owner, and almost no prospects worth any consideration.

Good luck Ottawa!

- Feeling Glucky?


Pierre Dorion said something very simple yesterday. Eric Karlsson is the best defence player in the NHL. Thomas Chabot is the best defense player not in the NHL. Harpur, Englund and Jaros should play in the NHL soon. Harpur may have been best player on ice against Bruins Thursday night. Ceci right now is very good defense man.

Ottawa is set to continue as one of the strongest defensive teams for a very long time. D wins championships.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Apr 8 @ 7:07 AM ET
Pierre Dorion said something very simple yesterday. Eric Karlsson is the best defence player in the NHL. Thomas Chabot is the best defense player not in the NHL. Harpur, Englund and Jaros should play in the NHL soon. Harpur may have been best player on ice against Bruins Thursday night. Ceci right now is very good defense man.

Ottawa is set to continue as one of the strongest defensive teams for a very long time. D wins championships.

- spatso

Pierre Dorion was wrong.

D only wins championships if the team has scoring ability.

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