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daeth
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: accuratently, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Mar 28 @ 10:46 PM ET
Leafs won tonight.

How'd the sens do?

- Tumbleweed

Against a non playoff team? Last I saw they were winning and those are guaranteed wins anyway so I'm pretty sure they won.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Mar 28 @ 11:03 PM ET
Against a non playoff team? Last I saw they were winning and those are guaranteed wins anyway so I'm pretty sure they won.
- daeth

I imagine they also have more than 2 wins in their last 7.

Definitely not a team backsliding into a playoff spot.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Mar 29 @ 5:45 AM ET
I saw most of the Sens game, some of the Montreal game and a bit of the Leaf game.

In terms of the NHL and the Canadian hockey fan this is the best year in many years. The playoffs will be even better.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Mar 29 @ 7:45 AM ET
Leafs need to win 2 more games than the Sens for home ice advantage. Sens fans are getting nervous. Does their team even have two more wins in it this season?
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Mar 29 @ 8:18 AM ET
Leafs need to win 2 more games than the Sens for home ice advantage. Sens fans are getting nervous. Does their team even have two more wins in it this season?
- Feeling Glucky?


you're as close to being on the outside of the playoff picture as you are of catching Ottawa.........and have probably the hardest remaining schedule of any team fighting for a playoff spot.

I'd hold off on counting those chickens if I were you......they haven't hatched just yet.

I can't speak for other sens fans, but playing the leafs in the first round, regardless of who finishes where, doesn't make me nervous at all. of all the potential 1st round matchups the leafs are probably the easiest.

if you gave me the option of playing montreal, boston, new York, or Toronto in the 1st round I'm taking the leafs EVERY TIME. you need good goaltending and good defence to win in the playoffs, and the leafs have neither.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Mar 29 @ 8:22 AM ET
Leafs need to win 2 more games than the Sens for home ice advantage. Sens fans are getting nervous. Does their team even have two more wins in it this season?
- Feeling Glucky?


The team that is the most dangerous to the Sens (or any other first round team is the Leafs). They are young, they do not know playoff jitters and they will likely play a really strong first round. For a young team like the Leafs the nervousness does not kick in until the second round.

In terms of home advantage, I don't think there really is one. The Sens are a really good road team and the Leafs have been playing really well. If the first two games get split 1-1, I think I would rather have games 3 and 4 at home when things are a bit more well settled.

I don't think there is a home advantage for a game 7 in the early rounds of the playoffs.

It will be a great series. I would bet the Leafs in any game where more than 5 goals are scored. Make it the Sens for games with 3 goals or less. Toss up when 4 goals are scored.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Mar 29 @ 8:26 AM ET
you're as close to being on the outside of the playoff picture as you are of catching Ottawa.........and have probably the hardest remaining schedule of any team fighting for a playoff spot.

I'd hold off on counting those chickens if I were you......they haven't hatched just yet.

I can't speak for other sens fans, but playing the leafs in the first round, regardless of who finishes where, doesn't make me nervous at all. of all the potential 1st round matchups the leafs are probably the easiest.

if you gave me the option of playing montreal, boston, new York, or Toronto in the 1st round I'm taking the leafs EVERY TIME. you need good goaltending and good defence to win in the playoffs, and the leafs have neither.

- sensarmy_11


Not me. Young teams don't know their limitations. I would be most nervous playing the Leafs because they can get on a wicked roll in the first round. I would have far stronger preference to meet Boston.
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Mar 29 @ 8:28 AM ET
Not me. Young teams don't know their limitations. I would be most nervous playing the Leafs because they can get on a wicked roll in the first round. I would have far stronger preference to meet Boston.
- spatso


boston has strong goaltending, solid D, and high end playoff tested forwards................the leafs have none of that. give me Toronto every time.
daeth
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: accuratently, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Mar 29 @ 8:30 AM ET
boston has strong goaltending, solid D, and high end playoff tested forwards................the leafs have none of that. give me Toronto every time.
- sensarmy_11

Rask has been absolute trash outside of the first two months of the season. Do you think he will find his game in the playoffs even though he's been bad for 40+ games now?
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Mar 29 @ 8:31 AM ET
Rask has been absolute trash outside of the first two months of the season. Do you think he will find his game in the playoffs even though he's been bad for 40+ games now?
- daeth


would you take him over Andersen?

I know 99% of people, and probably 30 gms would
daeth
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: accuratently, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Mar 29 @ 8:33 AM ET
would you take him over Andersen?
- sensarmy_11

Right now? Nobody sane would.

.898 sv% over his last 43 games/starts (since Dec 1st).
daeth
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: accuratently, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Mar 29 @ 8:35 AM ET
Rask is pretty much Boston's only real problem this year. With even half decent goaltending they're playing for the division lead right now instead of fighting for their lives to even make the playoffs.
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Mar 29 @ 8:35 AM ET
Rather play Ottawa, they are a very average team.

https://theleafsnation.co...e-better-playoff-matchup/



daeth
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: accuratently, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Mar 29 @ 8:41 AM ET
Toronto is one of the worst teams in the league when it comes to 1 goal games. They'll be lucky to win a playoff round this year should they make it.
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Mar 29 @ 8:45 AM ET
Right now? Nobody sane would.

.898 sv% over his last 43 games/starts (since Dec 1st).

- daeth


his last 15 games his sv% is like .915...........you can make anyone look good or bad based on the sample size. he struggled for awhile but has been better lately

I'd bet large sums of money that most people are taking rask over andersen
daeth
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: accuratently, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Mar 29 @ 8:47 AM ET
his last 15 games his sv% is like .915...........you can make anyone look good or bad based on the sample size. he struggled for awhile but has been better lately

I'd bet large sums of money that most people are taking rask over andersen

- sensarmy_11

That is one hell of a huge sample size. 43 games. I'm not even coming close to cherry picking stats.
daeth
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: accuratently, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Mar 29 @ 8:48 AM ET
http://hfboards.hockeysfu.../showthread.php?t=2207831

For an idea of how down on Rask the Boston fanbase is look at this.
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Mar 29 @ 8:48 AM ET
Leafs need to win 2 more games than the Sens for home ice advantage. Sens fans are getting nervous. Does their team even have two more wins in it this season?
- Feeling Glucky?



I think you really mean two more ROWs, than the Sens.
daeth
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: accuratently, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Mar 29 @ 8:50 AM ET
Last 14 days for Rask.

1 win
3.71 GAA
.867 sv%
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Mar 29 @ 8:50 AM ET
you're as close to being on the outside of the playoff picture as you are of catching Ottawa.........and have probably the hardest remaining schedule of any team fighting for a playoff spot.

I'd hold off on counting those chickens if I were you......they haven't hatched just yet.

I can't speak for other sens fans, but playing the leafs in the first round, regardless of who finishes where, doesn't make me nervous at all. of all the potential 1st round matchups the leafs are probably the easiest.

if you gave me the option of playing montreal, boston, new York, or Toronto in the 1st round I'm taking the leafs EVERY TIME. you need good goaltending and good defence to win in the playoffs, and the leafs have neither.

- sensarmy_11




Exactly, I agree 100%.


sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Mar 29 @ 8:55 AM ET
That is one hell of a huge sample size. 43 games. I'm not even coming close to cherry picking stats.
- daeth


I'm not suggesting you were cherry picking stats.........goalies get hot and get cold, it's a brutal position to play consistently.

like I said, he's been much better the last 15-20 games, and the overall sample size for the season is also pretty good.

like I said, in a 7 game series, all things being equal, I'm taking rask over Andersen every time............and I'd be willing to bet that most teams would too.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 29 @ 8:56 AM ET
Toronto is one of the worst teams in the league when it comes to 1 goal games. They'll be lucky to win a playoff round this year should they make it.
- daeth


Their chances significantly increase if they can lock up the 3 seed
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Mar 29 @ 8:58 AM ET
Toronto is one of the worst teams in the league when it comes to 1 goal games. They'll be lucky to win a playoff round this year should they make it.
- daeth



Dellow wrote a bit about 1 goal Games last week.

Mike Babcock, 2007-17, one-goal games: .487.

One-goal game winning percentages of Stanley Cup winners, 2008-16: Detroit (.533), Pittsburgh (.512), Chicago (.533), Boston (.477), Los Angeles (.415), Chicago (.700), Los Angeles (.521), Chicago (.571) and Pittsburgh (.568). Winning one-goal games in the regular season is great but as intimidating a point total as it might get you, a team that isn’t particularly great at it usually ends up with the Cup.


But yeah the leafs have a bad record in 1 goal games this season. But I am not sure that means much when it comes to the playoffs
Cape Breton Bruins
Boston Bruins
Location: long friend time friend, AB
Joined: 11.26.2008

Mar 29 @ 9:01 AM ET
http://hfboards.hockeysfu.../showthread.php?t=2207831

For an idea of how down on Rask the Boston fanbase is look at this.

- daeth

An internet message board guys!!!!!
daeth
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: accuratently, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Mar 29 @ 9:01 AM ET
Dellow wrote a bit about 1 goal Games last week.

Mike Babcock, 2007-17, one-goal games: .487.



But yeah the leafs have a bad record in 1 goal games this season. But I am not sure that means much when it comes to the playoffs

- senstroll

It looks like 4 of the last 5 winners have had excellent 1 goal game records. Beyond these recent years there doesn't appear to be any pattern though.
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