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sensarmy_11
Ottawa Senators
Location: If Ottawa traded ryan for clarkson sens would need to add a pick - Prock, NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Mar 15 @ 11:10 AM ET


This is the best post in the history of this God forsaken hell hell

- Cape Breton Bruins


This is on par with spatso and his pageau/giroux comment
sensarmy_11
Ottawa Senators
Location: If Ottawa traded ryan for clarkson sens would need to add a pick - Prock, NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Mar 15 @ 11:12 AM ET
Comments like this really make me wonder about Fans and what they actually know about hockey
- senstroll


Agreed.....I don't understand why people actually thought rielly was EVER a good player
sensarmy_11
Ottawa Senators
Location: If Ottawa traded ryan for clarkson sens would need to add a pick - Prock, NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Mar 15 @ 11:13 AM ET
I also left out Nylander, Kadri, Rielly, Gardiner... those parts are in place already.

in 2007-08 Kane/Toews were Rookies, there was no Hossa he came later when you start to add those pieces.

Slightly ahead, sure.. but there is no exact model for winning

- senstroll


Sure....but having no D and terrible goaltending is a pretty good model for being awful
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Mar 15 @ 11:20 AM ET
leafs D



leafs goalies



leads to




- sensarmy_11

Cute, but young teams are going to have games like that. Not really a red flag, just par for the course. Definitely a disappointing result.

Much like if a team that fans think is going to win the cup this year loses to a fringe team missing all of the centers it started the season with.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Mar 15 @ 11:22 AM ET
Agreed.....I don't understand why people actually thought rielly was EVER a good player
- sensarmy_11

Because those people know hockey.

Learn from us.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Mar 15 @ 11:25 AM ET
Grammar police.....a sure indication that you're winning an argument


- sensarmy_11



Dude, I legitimately couldn't figure out what you are trying to say.

It's not grammar police, I generally will not give people a hard time about a missing apostraphe, or whatever. But when someone is so illiterate, I can't understand what they're trying to say, I have to point it out.

D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Mar 15 @ 11:25 AM ET
Well Dopps, given that there are no cups that are won from October to March 15, three years from either point includes the same set of Stanley Cup champions, doesn't it?

Jeez, I think we're starting to get some serious evidence of a problem with the Ottawa school system.

- prock


Well it's NOT impossible that the leafs could end their NHL l o n g e s t Stanley Cup Finals appearance, this season, by making the playoffs, and their superstar guaranteed rookies go nuts, and beat the Capitals, and then go on to win the Cup this season ............ unless they've already been eliminated from making the playoffs....................... did they get eliminated last night?

I just thought you were hedging your bets, as you always do, and in two seasons from now, when it's apparent that the leafs are miles and miles away from contending for a Cup, you would have insisted that the 2016-17 was not included in this prediction you're making today ............ that's par for the course for you.
sensarmy_11
Ottawa Senators
Location: If Ottawa traded ryan for clarkson sens would need to add a pick - Prock, NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Mar 15 @ 11:27 AM ET
Dude, I legitimately couldn't figure out what you are trying to say.

It's not grammar police, I generally will not give people a hard time about a missing apostraphe, or whatever. But when someone is so illiterate, I can't understand what they're trying to say, I have to point it out.

- prock


Suuuuuuuuuuuure
sensarmy_11
Ottawa Senators
Location: If Ottawa traded ryan for clarkson sens would need to add a pick - Prock, NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Mar 15 @ 11:28 AM ET
Because those people know hockey.

Learn from us.

- Feeling Glucky?


Learn from the fan base who just compared nylander/rielly/Gardiner to hossa/keith/Seabrook

I'll pass thanks
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Mar 15 @ 11:30 AM ET
Well it's NOT impossible that the leafs could end their NHL l o n g e s t Stanley Cup Finals appearance, this season, by making the playoffs, and their superstar guaranteed rookies go nuts, and beat the Capitals, and then go on to win the Cup this season ............ unless they've already been eliminated from making the playoffs....................... did they get eliminated last night?

I just thought you were hedging your bets, as you always do, and in two seasons from now, when it's apparent that the leafs are miles and miles away from contending for a Cup, you would have insisted that the 2016-17 was not included in this prediction you're making today ............ that's par for the course for you.

- D0PPELGANGER



But what you said is "right now" vs beginning of season. It's the same thing.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Mar 15 @ 11:30 AM ET
Dude, I legitimately couldn't figure out what you are trying to say.

It's not grammar police, I generally will not give people a hard time about a missing apostraphe, or whatever. But when someone is so illiterate, I can't understand what they're trying to say, I have to point it out.

- prock


I think your being overly wienerly. Leafs simply had a bad game and the vulnerability of their roster was badly exposed. These are part of the growing pains of a young team. However, the obvious struggles on the blue line and the regression in Rielly's has become problematic for the Leafs.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Keller and Strome could both be better than Tavares. jimmy troller
Joined: 03.14.2014

Mar 15 @ 11:33 AM ET
The collective sigh of relief by sens fans from a leafs 7-2 loss has knocked me on my ass.

You guys are legitimately poopting your pants about how good the leafs are getting so quickly.

The defense needs to be addressed. Everybody knows this. Look for 2-3 new dmen on the roster next year.

And no spazzo, phanuef is not the answer. The leafs need to add good dmen.
senstroll
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Sens Suck, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Mar 15 @ 11:34 AM ET
Sure....but having no D and terrible goaltending is a pretty good model for being awful
- sensarmy_11


The Leafs are 15th in the NHL in sv%
23rd in GA/G

you are Milking it for all its worth..They are 1 point out of a playoff spot.. like calm the (frank) down

Again..way head of where anyone thought
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Mar 15 @ 11:35 AM ET
I also left out Nylander, Kadri, Rielly, Gardiner... those parts are in place already.

in 2007-08 Kane/Toews were Rookies, there was no Hossa he came later when you start to add those pieces.

Slightly ahead, sure.. but there is no exact model for winning

- senstroll


Kadri will be well over 28 years old in two seasons, way to told to help the leafs in the playoffs that season.



Funny, but according to most of the leaf fans here, the leafs are using the only model that will result in a Cup win ........... because they always trash every other team that is not following the shanaplan ......... weird how that it is eh?
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Mar 15 @ 11:38 AM ET
I think your being overly wienerly. Leafs simply had a bad game and the vulnerability of their roster was badly exposed. These are part of the growing pains of a young team. However, the obvious struggles on the blue line and the regression in Rielly's has become problematic for the Leafs.
- spatso



If you can look at "nought" and know they mean "enough", in a 5 or 6 word sentence, you must all be fluent in the stupid dialect.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Mar 15 @ 11:39 AM ET
Learn from the fan base who just compared nylander/rielly/Gardiner to hossa/keith/Seabrook

I'll pass thanks

- sensarmy_11

Whatever you say, Pagiroux fan.

But you're very clearly misrepresenting that argument, especially since it was pointed out to you that when Hossa was acquired by the Hawks, they were already further along in the process than the Leafs are.
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Mar 15 @ 11:39 AM ET
But what you said is "right now" vs beginning of season. It's the same thing.
- prock



so your prediction is a leaf Cup win, before the 2019 Lottery Draft.


OK ....... will remind you of that, then......... unless I die shoveling the two feet of snow on my driveway today ......... can't call out the army for snow removal in Ottawa.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Mar 15 @ 11:39 AM ET
Kadri will be well over 28 years old in two seasons, way to told to help the leafs in the playoffs that season.



Funny, but according to most of the leaf fans here, the leafs are using the only model that will result in a Cup win ........... because they always trash every other team that is not following the shanaplan ......... weird how that it is eh?

- D0PPELGANGER

oh?
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Mar 15 @ 11:40 AM ET
Kadri will be well over 28 years old in two seasons, way to told to help the leafs in the playoffs that season.



Funny, but according to most of the leaf fans here, the leafs are using the only model that will result in a Cup win ........... because they always trash every other team that is not following the shanaplan ......... weird how that it is eh?

- D0PPELGANGER



28 is in a players prime. That's a great time to be helping with a playoff run.

30 is when you start to hit a player's downside (some say 29). Slowly at that point. 32/33 is when it starts to get into steep decline. At 35/36, if a players is still in the NHL, they're generally a shell of their former selves, and you shouldn't even be counting on them to be in the NHL next year. Statistical averages anyway. Every player is different.
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Mar 15 @ 11:41 AM ET
The collective sigh of relief by sens fans from a leafs 7-2 loss has knocked me on my ass.

You guys are legitimately poopting your pants about how good the leafs are getting so quickly.

The defense needs to be addressed. Everybody knows this. Look for 2-3 new dmen on the roster next year.

And no spazzo, phanuef is not the answer. The leafs need to add good dmen.

- Tumbleweed



If that is what you think is good, then your really aiming low.
senstroll
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Sens Suck, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Mar 15 @ 11:42 AM ET
Kadri will be well over 28 years old in two seasons, way to told to help the leafs in the playoffs that season.



Funny, but according to most of the leaf fans here, the leafs are using the only model that will result in a Cup win ........... because they always trash every other team that is not following the shanaplan ......... weird how that it is eh?

- D0PPELGANGER


Hossa was 31 when he joined the Hawks in 09-10, Sharp 28, Keith 26

I dont trash other teams plans.. I like how the sens are doing it ...as a Leafs fan its great
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Keller and Strome could both be better than Tavares. jimmy troller
Joined: 03.14.2014

Mar 15 @ 11:45 AM ET
If that is what you think is good, then your really aiming low.
- D0PPELGANGER


leafs were a 30th place team last year.

but they haven't made a quick improvement this year. got it.
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Mar 15 @ 11:56 AM ET
The Leafs are 15th in the NHL in sv%
23rd in GA/G

you are Milking it for all its worth..They are 1 point out of a playoff spot.. like calm the fuck down

Again..way head of where anyone thought

- senstroll



Do you mean only the leafs, or are you including the Sens?

Yes the leafs have surpassed their 69 points mark from last season already, by 7 points, and the Sens have just matched their season total of 85 points last season, with the loser point from last night. So yes it looks like the leafs will increase their season point total by a higher margin than the Sens will .......... but the leafs purposely tanked last season, and gave themselves a lot more room to improve, while the Sens played hard through the playoff stretch last season....... taking 17 points out of their last 14 games.

Ottawa Senators .625
Montréal Canadiens .614
Boston Bruins .580


leafs .559
Tampa Bay Lightning .558
Florida Panthers .522
Buffalo Sabres .486
Detroit Red Wings .470


senstroll
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Sens Suck, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Mar 15 @ 11:56 AM ET
leafs were a 30th place team last year.

but they haven't made a quick improvement this year. got it.

- Tumbleweed


the Leafs and Sens were within a few points in the standings not long ago.. Leafs stumbled, sens beat some crappy teams to put some separation. youd think they won the (frank)ing cup or something.. the chest beating is something to see

At least we know there is no way this backfires at all ..nope no way
senstroll
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Sens Suck, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Mar 15 @ 12:01 PM ET
Do you mean only the leafs, or are you including the Sens?

Yes the leafs have surpassed their 69 points mark from last season already, by 7 points, and the Sens have just matched their season total of 85 points last season, with the loser point from last night. So yes it looks like the leafs will increase their season point total by a higher margin than the Sens will .......... but the leafs purposely tanked last season, and gave themselves a lot more room to improve, while the Sens played hard through the playoff stretch last season....... taking 17 points out of their last 14 games.

Ottawa Senators .625
Montréal Canadiens .614
Boston Bruins .580


leafs .559
Tampa Bay Lightning .558
Florida Panthers .522
Buffalo Sabres .486
Detroit Red Wings .470

- D0PPELGANGER


and the leafs are total crap and will end up with 90 points .. got it
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