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senstroll
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Sens Suck, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Mar 14 @ 9:40 AM ET

- Tumbleweed


is that Mitch Marner
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Mar 14 @ 10:07 AM ET
It's been inconsistent- Anderson, when he's on his game is lights out. When he's not on his game, the Sens are just about a bottom-10 team. As he ages there's gonna be more "off his game" seasons.
- Feeling Glucky?




Hey, take a look at the Standings, the Senators have the 8th best record in the NHL.

No amount of idiotic spin, will convince anyone over a grade 2 education, that Ottawa is realty a "bottom" 10 team.







BTW, looks like Condon starts tonight, so good thing they're putting in their "lucky goaltender" as he's much younger, and not "off his game" .......... perhaps a "lucky hot streak" eh?
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: everyday i see my dream
Joined: 03.14.2014

Mar 14 @ 10:09 AM ET
is that Mitch Marner
- senstroll


Spatso's posting ability.

Though on 2nd thought, that's actually insulting to the kid in the gif.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Mar 14 @ 11:12 AM ET
Wow! What a guy.

http://www.tsn.ca/talent/...-join-nhl-greats-1.695906
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Mar 14 @ 11:21 AM ET
Did ytou guys notice the Hockey News Future watch ranked the Leafs farm system third in the league?

Wow, that's amazing.
twiztedmike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2007

Mar 14 @ 11:22 AM ET
Did ytou guys notice the Hockey News Future watch ranked the Leafs farm system third in the league?

Wow, that's amazing.

- prock

Hockey News is Fake News
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Mar 14 @ 11:24 AM ET
Hey, take a look at the Standings, the Senators have the 8th best record in the NHL.

No amount of idiotic spin, will convince anyone over a grade 2 education, that Ottawa is realty a "bottom" 10 team.







BTW, looks like Condon starts tonight, so good thing they're putting in their "lucky goaltender" as he's much younger, and not "off his game" .......... perhaps a "lucky hot streak" eh?

- D0PPELGANGER


No one cares.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Mar 14 @ 11:37 AM ET
No one cares.
- prock


It appears that you do!
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Mar 14 @ 11:38 AM ET
Hey, take a look at the Standings, the Senators have the 8th best record in the NHL.

No amount of idiotic spin, will convince anyone over a grade 2 education, that Ottawa is realty a "bottom" 10 team.







BTW, looks like Condon starts tonight, so good thing they're putting in their "lucky goaltender" as he's much younger, and not "off his game" .......... perhaps a "lucky hot streak" eh?

- D0PPELGANGER


A look at history is all you need. Ottawa goes with their goaltending. They haven't had a good roster in years, but have had hot goaltending on and off. This is one of their "on" years. Last year was an "off" year. The trend continues pretty consistently going back.

As for your final point, I think you misunderstood what I said, but that's not surprising.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: everyday i see my dream
Joined: 03.14.2014

Mar 14 @ 11:45 AM ET
Did ytou guys notice the Hockey News Future watch ranked the Leafs farm system third in the league?

Wow, that's amazing.

- prock


No. I didn't see it. Without having to read it, Sens are obviously ranked first having 3 of the top 2 prospects.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Mar 14 @ 11:46 AM ET
Did ytou guys notice the Hockey News Future watch ranked the Leafs farm system third in the league?

Wow, that's amazing.

- prock

that's only because they include guys like Matthews, Marner, and Nylander.

Get rid of those three, and Ottawa comes close!


The pre-draft prospect rankings always are pretty wonky. It's how Brayden Schenn and Cody Hodgson were the greatest prospects in teh world! for a time.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: everyday i see my dream
Joined: 03.14.2014

Mar 14 @ 11:50 AM ET
anderson out tonight against the bolts.

in condon we trust
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Mar 14 @ 11:59 AM ET
No. I didn't see it. Without having to read it, Sens are obviously ranked first having 3 of the top 2 prospects.
- Tumbleweed



You forgot Filip Chlapik! How will they find room for 4 of the best 2 players in the world outside the NHL? I mean, they're the odds on favourite to win the cup already, spazzo tells me.

Those sens. They're the greatest of all time.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Mar 14 @ 12:00 PM ET
this applies to....wait for it.... Every goalie
- senstroll

what I'm saying is, he's better than most when on his game, but more inconsistent on a season/season basis. And the Sen's lack of quality skaters means they are far more at the whim of their goaltending.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Mar 14 @ 12:04 PM ET
You forgot Filip Chlapik! How will they find room for 4 of the best 2 players in the world outside the NHL? I mean, they're the odds on favourite to win the cup already, spazzo tells me.

Those sens. They're the greatest of all time.

- prock

Easy, they traded away Dahlen, otherwise we'd be hearing how they have 5 of the best 2 prospects.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Mar 14 @ 12:11 PM ET
this applies to....wait for it.... Every goalie
- senstroll


Well yeah, but Anderson goes on long stretches of top notch play. Like comparable to top 5 in the NHL. then disappears and is terrible. His season to season stats are all over the place too.

He's far more inconsistent than most goalies in the NHL.

He's a decent, even above average goalie, overall. But he's too old, he won't be around by the time the Sens can compete for the cup. He's the same age as Belfour when he signed with the Leafs. Belfour had 2 good seasons, then totally fell apart. Anderson is at the age that, you have no idea if he's going to even be starter caliber next season. Very few goalies last in the NHL to the age he is right now. I looked a little while ago, and he's the third oldest goalie in the NHL IIRC.

In recent years, almost like clockwork, he alternates between good seasons and bad seasons. On top of that, half his seasons he plays less than 40 games, half of them he plays more. He's really all over the map.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Mar 14 @ 12:30 PM ET
Easy, they traded away Dahlen, otherwise we'd be hearing how they have 5 of the best 2 prospects.
- Feeling Glucky?

You have to remember, that's the advantage of having so many players ready to step in as elite NHLers. They can trade a few away because they don't need them. Or draft picks. What good is a draft pick, when you've got all the best players in the whole wide world about to play for your team? Anyone you draft would just end up playing on your farm team. Might as well just trade them all away, instead of having them sit there trying to crack the greatest roster on earth, which is obviously futile.
senstroll
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Sens Suck, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Mar 14 @ 12:34 PM ET
what I'm saying is, he's better than most when on his game, but more inconsistent on a season/season basis. And the Sen's lack of quality skaters means they are far more at the whim of their goaltending.
- Feeling Glucky?



When a goalie plays well the teams tend to do well..shocking

I think you are overstating how inconsistent he is...if you look at any goalies you will see similar trends
senstroll
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Sens Suck, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Mar 14 @ 12:34 PM ET
anderson out tonight against the bolts.

in condon we trust

- Tumbleweed


Makes sense...the Leafs need Ottawa to win .so backup
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: everyday i see my dream
Joined: 03.14.2014

Mar 14 @ 12:39 PM ET
Makes sense...the Leafs need Ottawa to win .so backup
- senstroll


anderson injured.

and TB saved vais for the sens. the one time they don't get the backup.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Mar 14 @ 1:05 PM ET
Sens starting Condon. They will not do anything to help Leafs stay ahead of Tampa. I don't think Sens start Anderson in any game that involves a team in a fight for the last wild card spot.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: everyday i see my dream
Joined: 03.14.2014

Mar 14 @ 1:09 PM ET
Sens starting Condon. They will not do anything to help Leafs stay ahead of Tampa. I don't think Sens start Anderson in any game that involves a team in a fight for the last wild card spot.
- spatso


alternative facts
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Mar 14 @ 1:52 PM ET
Interesting choice by the Sens to start their backup tonight. You'd think they'd be more interested to put some distance between themselves and a divisional rival, and not trying to lose a game to help another team in the chase for the playoffs pass the Leafs.

Or maybe they just don't want to finish too high in the division, out of fear of facing the rangers in the first round.

Either way, questionable coaching.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: everyday i see my dream
Joined: 03.14.2014

Mar 14 @ 1:56 PM ET
http://ottawacitizen.com/...e-chris-driedger-from-ahl
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Mar 14 @ 2:03 PM ET
When a goalie plays well the teams tend to do well..shocking

I think you are overstating how inconsistent he is...if you look at any goalies you will see similar trends

- senstroll

His inconsistency goes beyond the regular ups and downs of a goalie. You can't consistently count on him to be able to start a game. The guy has been injured a lot. Not a trait you want in the guy who's keeping your team together.

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