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sensarmy_11
Ottawa Senators
Location: If Ottawa traded ryan for clarkson sens would need to add a pick - Prock, NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Feb 27 @ 6:16 PM ET
Boyle is wingles
- burn


Wingles has like 40 less pts in 300 less games.......you're right, Wingels is probably better.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Feb 27 @ 6:24 PM ET
Sens acquire burrows.

Table continues to tilt in the leafs favor.

- Tumbleweed



Burrows. lol.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Feb 27 @ 6:25 PM ET
I live in Ottawa, and we acknowledge Stanley Cup wins by all teams that represent the City of Ottawa.

If you want to quibble over the semantics of this franchise, or that franchise ......... be my guest.

You don't get to define the rules of which City has been awarded the Stanley Cup, and how may times. If you just take a look at the engraving on the Stanley Cup, and count, you'll see that teams that represent Ottawa are on there 21 times.



Ottawa cheered and celebrated the RedBlacks Grey Cup win ........... but it was not the first Grey Cup won by an Ottawa team. Are you suggesting the Grey Cups won by the Rough Riders no longer count?

- D0PPELGANGER


cool story.

I wonder if islander fans are happy to celebrate their 8 cups.
golfingsince
Location: The losers tonight are the people.-QP
Joined: 11.30.2011

Feb 27 @ 6:26 PM ET
Ottawa had another injury last night. They are getting short on bodies. Your bottom six won't win you a lot of games...but they can lose them for you. Right now Ottawa has a depth problem and they need healthy bodies that can handle some rough going.
- spatso


Cool, we'll send you Sbisa and Hansen for Karlsson.
sensarmy_11
Ottawa Senators
Location: If Ottawa traded ryan for clarkson sens would need to add a pick - Prock, NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Feb 27 @ 6:39 PM ET
Burrows. lol.
- prock


Boyle
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Feb 27 @ 6:53 PM ET
Both teams made dumb trades today
- sensarmy_11


Not the biggest fan of the Boyle trade, but that move by Ottawa and the extension is beyond stupid. The guy is finished.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Boyle > Marleau :dopes, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Feb 27 @ 7:02 PM ET
Wingles has like 40 less pts in 300 less games.......you're right, Wingels is probably better.
- sensarmy_11



Boyle basically double wingels pts/game this year but sure
SteddyBeing
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.27.2017

Feb 27 @ 7:28 PM ET
Boyle basically double wingels pts/game this year but sure
- burn

Boyle/Wingels comparisons wtf
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: everyday i see my dream
Joined: 03.14.2014

Feb 27 @ 7:50 PM ET
Cool, we'll send you Sbisa and Hansen for Karlsson.
- golfingsince


Make sure to include the mumps in this deal.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Feb 27 @ 7:50 PM ET
Ottawa had another injury last night. They are getting short on bodies. Your bottom six won't win you a lot of games...but they can lose them for you. Right now Ottawa has a depth problem and they need healthy bodies that can handle some rough going.
- spatso


Then get a guy you don't need to give a useless 2 year extension to. The trade was bad enough: The extension was insane. The guy is finished. If he wanted an extension to move you walk away and get someone else. And BTW, Burrows should have never cost a prospect like that.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Feb 27 @ 8:07 PM ET
Then get a guy you don't need to give a useless 2 year extension to. The trade was bad enough: The extension was insane. The guy is finished. If he wanted an extension to move you walk away and get someone else. And BTW, Burrows should have never cost a prospect like that.
- RogerRoeper



I'm just getting back from vacation. am I reading this right? they extended alex burrows????
Gunslinger
Montreal Canadiens
Location: ID
Joined: 10.15.2011

Feb 27 @ 8:30 PM ET
With his size and shot Laine is in a class by himself.

Did anybody else think the Leafs were going to figure out a way to screw this up?

- spatso



probably D0pps.
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Liljegren tanked to get the Leafs
Joined: 07.14.2011

Feb 27 @ 9:01 PM ET
probably D0pps.
- Gunslinger

RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Feb 27 @ 9:30 PM ET
I'm just getting back from vacation. am I reading this right? they extended alex burrows????
- prock


Yes. 2 year extension.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Feb 27 @ 10:23 PM ET
Boyle is a very useful player. Good trade by Lou. He kills penalties, strong on face-offs very responsible in his own end. I like the deal for the Leafs.
- spatso

I felt pretty good about this trade until exactly now.
sensarmy_11
Ottawa Senators
Location: If Ottawa traded ryan for clarkson sens would need to add a pick - Prock, NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Feb 28 @ 6:48 AM ET
i think both teams made dumb trades, overpaying for players that they didn't need.

I don't care so much about the extension to burrows as long as it means that neil and Kelly are both gone next year. if that's the case then I'm happy, the money is a wash and burrows is better than both of those guys.

now if dorion re-signs those guys AND extended burrows then I'd definitely take issue with that.
Gunslinger
Montreal Canadiens
Location: ID
Joined: 10.15.2011

Feb 28 @ 6:59 AM ET
i think both teams made dumb trades, overpaying for players that they didn't need.

I don't care so much about the extension to burrows as long as it means that neil and Kelly are both gone next year. if that's the case then I'm happy, the money is a wash and burrows is better than both of those guys.

now if dorion re-signs those guys AND extended burrows then I'd definitely take issue with that.

- sensarmy_11



i dont think toronto made a dumb trade. they got a guy who fills several holes. The cost was minimal as Toronto has the pick and prospect depth and Froese was never part of the big teams plans. Just a good Marlie career ahler.
sensarmy_11
Ottawa Senators
Location: If Ottawa traded ryan for clarkson sens would need to add a pick - Prock, NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Feb 28 @ 7:03 AM ET
i dont think toronto made a dumb trade. they got a guy who fills several holes. The cost was minimal as Toronto has the pick and prospect depth and Froese was never part of the big teams plans. Just a good Marlie career ahler.
- Gunslinger


a 2nd rd pick.....and it's whatever their best 2nd rd pick is.......is an overpayment for a 4th line rental player. especially when you consider that he's basically just an older and more expensive gauthier
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Feb 28 @ 7:47 AM ET
i dont think toronto made a dumb trade. they got a guy who fills several holes. The cost was minimal as Toronto has the pick and prospect depth and Froese was never part of the big teams plans. Just a good Marlie career ahler.
- Gunslinger


just a second rounder at this point but I would have rather they been sellers still. bozak, polak, hunwick.

they only teams they'll beat to get anywhere deep this season are in-division. no one in the Atlantic division stands a shot at anything.
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Feb 28 @ 9:00 AM ET
ewwww boyle is (frank)ing trash. what were they thinking. jesus christ lol
- daeth



total abandonment of the "Shanaplan", they gave up a young prospect AND a the highly valued ( by some leaf fans) 2nd round draft pick
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Boyle > Marleau :dopes, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Feb 28 @ 9:12 AM ET
total abandonment of the "Shanaplan", they gave up a young prospect AND a the highly valued ( by some leaf fans) 2nd round draft pick
- D0PPELGANGER



Who?
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: everyday i see my dream
Joined: 03.14.2014

Feb 28 @ 9:12 AM ET
total abandonment of the "Shanaplan", they gave up a young prospect AND a the highly valued ( by some leaf fans) 2nd round draft pick
- D0PPELGANGER


false. 24 year-old career ahl'er.

only in the sens organization would he be considered a young prospect.
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Feb 28 @ 9:14 AM ET
Boyle basically double wingels pts/game this year but sure
- burn


Wingels acquired for two minor leaguers, Buddy Robinson, Zack Stortini, and a 7th round pick.

Boyle, for 21 games, acquired for one of the leafs top prospects (leads their AHL team in points, including 24 goals, twice as many as the second best goal scorer) ), and an extremely highly coveted (by leaf fans) 2nd round draft pick.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Feb 28 @ 9:15 AM ET
Trade for Burrows is a good trade for this year. Chris Neil is probably finished for the season and adds nothing in the playoffs. Burrows can still skate and plays a decent defensive game, he is an okay depth player. Not sure why they extended him unless Las Vegas has already signed on to taking him.

Dealing Dahlen is a marginal decision. He ranks 7th or 8th in the Sens prospect depth charts and would likely not be a candidate to make the team over the next few years. Just among forwards he ranks behind White, Brown and Chaplik. He is also behind Chabot, Englund, Harper and possibly Jarros (who is playing first division in Sweden, Dahlen is playing second division minutes).

I was surprised that Lazar was not the piece going back and it probably signals that there is at least one more deal coming.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Boyle > Marleau :dopes, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Feb 28 @ 9:17 AM ET
false. 24 year-old career ahl'er.

only in the sens organization would he be considered a young prospect.

- Tumbleweed



26 in less than 2 weeks.


Young prospect
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