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Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Feb 26 @ 9:25 AM ET
Last 50 years

Conference championships 0
Presidents' Trophy 0
Division championships 1 1999–2000)

- D0PPELGANGER

Last 50 years... hmm...

I'm sure the leafs won something the sens didn't in that timeframe...


Jesus, this is what you're going to post when the Leafs win a cup, isn't it?

"Well sure you have a cup, but that's not the only way to measure success... look at all these non-cup banners we have!"
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Feb 26 @ 9:36 AM ET
Last 50 years... hmm...

I'm sure the leafs won something the sens didn't in that timeframe...


Jesus, this is what you're going to post when the Leafs win a cup, isn't it?

"Well sure you have a cup, but that's not the only way to measure success... look at all these non-cup banners we have!"

- Feeling Glucky?



So in your mind ......... anything besides winning a Cup, is meaningless, right?

daeth
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: when it's a 3 taco-bell town, maybe they'll be ready, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Feb 26 @ 9:41 AM ET
So in your mind ......... anything besides winning a Cup, is meaningless, right?
- D0PPELGANGER

As a fan if you enjoyed the games then it's not meaningless to you. As an accolade, yes, division championships and the like are meaningless. The goal is to win the cup. They don't hand out silvers and bronzes. You win or you don't.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Boyle > Marleau :dopes, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Feb 26 @ 9:50 AM ET
You guys are the only ones who bring those up........
- sensarmy_11



You clearly missed the point.
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Feb 26 @ 9:56 AM ET
As a fan if you enjoyed the games then it's not meaningless to you. As an accolade, yes, division championships and the like are meaningless. The goal is to win the cup. They don't hand out silvers and bronzes. You win or you don't.
- daeth


But Divisional and Conference, for what they're worth, are recorded and acknowledged by the NHL, as is the Presidents trophy and other "team" trophies.


When fans follow their team, all the way to the last game of the Finals, they have a hell of a ride ....... and yes only one team can win, but some of the leaf fans here are suggesting it would be meaningless, to them, if their precious leafs went all the way to the seventh game of the finals and lost it OT.

I wonder how many of them would be proud of their team, and how many would trash them for failing to win game seven, in OT?


burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Boyle > Marleau :dopes, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Feb 26 @ 9:59 AM ET
But Divisional and Conference, for what they're worth, are recorded and acknowledged by the NHL, as is the Presidents trophy and other "team" trophies.


When fans follow their team, all the way to the last game of the Finals, they have a hell of a ride ....... and yes only one team can win, but some of the leaf fans here are suggesting it would be meaningless, to them, if their precious leafs went all the way to the seventh game of the finals and lost it OT.

I wonder how many of them would be proud of their team, and how many would trash them for failing to win game seven, in OT?

- D0PPELGANGER



Not a single person has ever said that.

Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Feb 26 @ 10:29 AM ET
But Divisional and Conference, for what they're worth, are recorded and acknowledged by the NHL, as is the Presidents trophy and other "team" trophies.


When fans follow their team, all the way to the last game of the Finals, they have a hell of a ride ....... and yes only one team can win, but some of the leaf fans here are suggesting it would be meaningless, to them, if their precious leafs went all the way to the seventh game of the finals and lost it OT.

I wonder how many of them would be proud of their team, and how many would trash them for failing to win game seven, in OT?

- D0PPELGANGER

We'd be proud, and after the initial mourning period, be excited for what they could do the next year.


As far as bragging about the conference title, not so much.
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Liljegren tanked to get the Leafs
Joined: 07.14.2011

Feb 26 @ 11:47 AM ET
So in your mind ......... anything besides winning a Cup, is meaningless, right?
- D0PPELGANGER

No. It's the taking part that counts.
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Feb 26 @ 3:24 PM ET
We'd be proud, and after the initial mourning period, be excited for what they could do the next year.


As far as bragging about the conference title, not so much.

- Feeling Glucky?


So you will not brag IF the leafs go further in the playoffs, than the Sens or Habs?
TheTaoOfSemenko
Vegas Golden Knights
Joined: 07.01.2009

Feb 26 @ 3:33 PM ET
Everybody stop!
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Feb 26 @ 3:34 PM ET
So you will not brag IF the leafs go further in the playoffs, than the Sens or Habs?
- D0PPELGANGER

I'd brag about how we're closer to the up.

I wouldn't brag about how far we went 10 years ago.

And before you bring up me talking about how the Leafs crush the Sens in the playoffs whenever they meet- I only bring that up in response to this kind of idiocy.


When it comes to the past, the Sens have nothing on the Leafs. 0 cups to 13.

When it comes to the present, the Sens and Leafs are on roughly even footing.

When it comes to the future, the Leafs have 2 franchise forwards under 20, and a ton of other rookies an prospects developing quite well, along with a management team willing to do what it takes to build a winner. The Sens have an in-his-prime Karlson, Chabot, and an owner who doesn't want to spend like a contender.



But hey, at least you guys have some runner-up banners.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Feb 26 @ 3:34 PM ET
Everybody stop!
- TheTaoOfSemenko

sorry.
TheTaoOfSemenko
Vegas Golden Knights
Joined: 07.01.2009

Feb 26 @ 3:36 PM ET
Thank you.
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Liljegren tanked to get the Leafs
Joined: 07.14.2011

Feb 26 @ 7:28 PM ET
I (frank)ing hate Hanzal. I've been hoping for a careeer ending injury for him for years.

On a side note, Classic can stop worrying that Benning will trade Boeser for Hanzal

- CanuckDon



The irony after Golfing's Leafs fans are sick for apparently cheering when Laine got injured.
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Feb 27 @ 12:24 AM ET
I'd brag about how we're closer to the up.

I wouldn't brag about how far we went 10 years ago.

And before you bring up me talking about how the Leafs crush the Sens in the playoffs whenever they meet- I only bring that up in response to this kind of idiocy.


When it comes to the past, the Sens have nothing on the Leafs. 0 cups to 13.

When it comes to the present, the Sens and Leafs are on roughly even footing.

When it comes to the future, the Leafs have 2 franchise forwards under 20, and a ton of other rookies an prospects developing quite well, along with a management team willing to do what it takes to build a winner. The Sens have an in-his-prime Karlson, Chabot, and an owner who doesn't want to spend like a contender.



But hey, at least you guys have some runner-up banners.

- Feeling Glucky?




Ottawa has 21 Stanley Cup Wins.
toronto has 15 Stanley Cup Wins.
https://en.wikipedia.org/..._of_Stanley_Cup_champions
golfingsince
Location: The losers tonight are the people.-QP
Joined: 11.30.2011

Feb 27 @ 2:31 AM ET
The irony after Golfing's Leafs fans are sick for apparently cheering when Laine got injured.
- walshyleafsfan


This might be news to you, but Don and I aren't the same person.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Feb 27 @ 7:24 AM ET
Ottawa has 21 Stanley Cup Wins.
toronto has 15 Stanley Cup Wins.
https://en.wikipedia.org/..._of_Stanley_Cup_champions

- D0PPELGANGER

This isn't "WHICH CITY is in a better situation: Toronto or Ottawa". It's Leafs vs Sens. The team you cheer for has 0 cups.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Feb 27 @ 7:26 AM ET
This might be news to you, but Don and I aren't the same person.
- golfingsince

Are you Ron?
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Feb 27 @ 8:22 AM ET
This isn't "WHICH CITY is in a better situation: Toronto or Ottawa". It's Leafs vs Sens. The team you cheer for has 0 cups.
- Feeling Glucky?



I live in Ottawa, and we acknowledge Stanley Cup wins by all teams that represent the City of Ottawa.

If you want to quibble over the semantics of this franchise, or that franchise ......... be my guest.

You don't get to define the rules of which City has been awarded the Stanley Cup, and how may times. If you just take a look at the engraving on the Stanley Cup, and count, you'll see that teams that represent Ottawa are on there 21 times.



Ottawa cheered and celebrated the RedBlacks Grey Cup win ........... but it was not the first Grey Cup won by an Ottawa team. Are you suggesting the Grey Cups won by the Rough Riders no longer count?
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Feb 27 @ 8:24 AM ET
The irony after Golfing's Leafs fans are sick for apparently cheering when Laine got injured.
- walshyleafsfan



I understand this. I don't think Leaf fans want Laine hurt. They just want to win something, anything.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Feb 27 @ 8:26 AM ET
I live in Ottawa, and we acknowledge Stanley Cup wins by all teams that represent the City of Ottawa.

If you want to quibble over the semantics of this franchise, or that franchise ......... be my guest.

You don't get to define the rules of which City has been awarded the Stanley Cup, and how may times. If you just take a look at the engraving on the Stanley Cup, and count, you'll see that teams that represent Ottawa are on there 21 times.



Ottawa cheered and celebrated the RedBlacks Grey Cup win ........... but it was not the first Grey Cup won by an Ottawa team. Are you suggesting the Grey Cups won by the Rough Riders no longer count?

- D0PPELGANGER



I had not thought of it that way. But, I think you are entirely correct.
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Feb 27 @ 8:40 AM ET
I had not thought of it that way. But, I think you are entirely correct.
- spatso










walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Liljegren tanked to get the Leafs
Joined: 07.14.2011

Feb 27 @ 10:30 AM ET
Ottawa has 21 Stanley Cup Wins.
toronto has 15 Stanley Cup Wins.
https://en.wikipedia.org/..._of_Stanley_Cup_champions

- D0PPELGANGER

Jesus.

And we get trolled for acknowledging a cup win 50 years ago.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Feb 27 @ 10:35 AM ET
I live in Ottawa, and we acknowledge Stanley Cup wins by all teams that represent the City of Ottawa.

If you want to quibble over the semantics of this franchise, or that franchise ......... be my guest.

You don't get to define the rules of which City has been awarded the Stanley Cup, and how may times. If you just take a look at the engraving on the Stanley Cup, and count, you'll see that teams that represent Ottawa are on there 21 times.



Ottawa cheered and celebrated the RedBlacks Grey Cup win ........... but it was not the first Grey Cup won by an Ottawa team. Are you suggesting the Grey Cups won by the Rough Riders no longer count?

- D0PPELGANGER

I'm just talking about the teams in question, not the City of Toronto vs The Town of Ottawa.

That's the topic of this thread, not cities, not towns, and not Laine(sorry spastic).

If you want to expand the parameters to include a third team that awarded itself the cup because nobody wanted to play with them... then maybe we should look at how Ottawa struggled to maintain a franchise in the past, when analyzing who's in a better position.
sensarmy_11
Ottawa Senators
Location: If Ottawa traded ryan for clarkson sens would need to add a pick - Prock, NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Feb 27 @ 10:35 AM ET
Jesus.

And we get trolled for acknowledging a cup win 50 years ago.

- walshyleafsfan


there's pretty much no difference between 50 and 70 years....................neither team has won anything in our life times and the fact that either fan base brags on the internet about championships that were won before the invention of the (frank)ing computer is embarassing
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