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senstroll
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Sens Suck, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Feb 14 @ 10:25 AM ET
Leafs have no players shooting over 15% .. NYR

Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: they are going to add the two best players outside the nhl (chabot and white) -spatso
Joined: 03.14.2014

Feb 14 @ 6:52 PM ET
HABS
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Feb 14 @ 10:05 PM ET
Not really. Ottawa has some good Dmen they do not want to lose for nothing. Karlsson, Methot, Phaneuf, Ceci and Wideman are all playing well. Borwiecki and Claesson are rotating in and out of the line up.

If you have to protect Phaneuf in the expansion draft, it means either Methot or Ceci will have to be exposed. Ottawa has as many as 4 young Dmen that will be fighting for permanent roster spots next year (Claesson, Englund, Jaros and Chabot).

I believe the Sens will expose Phaneuf and Borowiecki expecting that the Knights will take Borowieki. I think the Sens will protect Karlsson, Methot and Wideman.

More important, I think the Sens will include Ceci plus a #1 pick and prospect (perhaps Colin White) for a top 6 skater. If that is the case they would certainly hope that Phaneuf remains in Ottawa to mentor Chabot.

If the Sens do a deal at the deadline that includes "a future consideration" statement, you know it will somehow be manipulated to become Ceci at the end of the season (and before the expansion draft).

- spatso


Ignoring the part where you said you didn't think the knights would claim Phaneuf eh?

Ignoring something doesn't make it go away. Burying your shame just makes you lash out in other ways.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: they are going to add the two best players outside the nhl (chabot and white) -spatso
Joined: 03.14.2014

Feb 14 @ 10:10 PM ET
Good win by the leafs

How did the sens do?
twiztedmike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2007

Feb 14 @ 10:14 PM ET
Good win by the leafs

How did the sens do?

- Tumbleweed

Really good. Sens did better than the other team in some stat categories. And if you do better in stat categories it means you played better. If you play better than the other team you can generally expect to win a game. And an expected win is basically a win.
daeth
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: when it's a 3 taco-bell town, maybe they'll be ready, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Feb 14 @ 10:15 PM ET
Really good. Sens did better than the other team in some stat categories. And if you do better in stat categories it means you played better. If you play better than the other team you can generally expect to win a game. And an expected win is basically a win.
- twiztedmike

Especially against a non playoff team. Those are guaranteed wins.
twiztedmike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2007

Feb 14 @ 10:16 PM ET
Especially against a non playoff team. Those are guaranteed wins.
- daeth


Phaneuf and Ryan also scored which means they produced and aren't overpaid or overrated like you delusional LAFFS fans like to always say.
twiztedmike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2007

Feb 14 @ 10:17 PM ET
Enjoy cheering for your loser team. I won't be on for awhile because I'm a better person than you and I'm going to church and also will be travelling for work because I have a job because I'm educated and smart unlike you people.
twiztedmike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2007

Feb 14 @ 10:17 PM ET
While you mopes argue about whether your loser team makes the playoffs I'll be drinking this beer & soaking in this expected win tonight. Cya!!
daeth
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: when it's a 3 taco-bell town, maybe they'll be ready, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Feb 14 @ 10:19 PM ET
Phaneuf and Ryan also scored which means they produced and aren't overpaid or overrated like you delusional LAFFS fans like to always say.
- twiztedmike

Laine scored too so this was an extra bad day for the leafs
twiztedmike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2007

Feb 14 @ 10:22 PM ET
Laine scored too so this was an extra bad day for the leafs
- daeth

It's ridiculous they didn't count that and the game didn't go to OT. He would've scored again on Lehner who was a pathetic backup goalie and a great trade by our brilliant GM.

Oh well. At least we got the expected win.
twiztedmike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2007

Feb 14 @ 10:24 PM ET
The Prime Minister's office is in Ottawa because all of the PM's can't stand being around that LOOOOOOOOOOSER team that is the Toronna Make Me Laughs!!!!
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Boyle > Marleau :dopes, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Feb 14 @ 10:28 PM ET
Especially against a non playoff team. Those are guaranteed wins.
- daeth



Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: they are going to add the two best players outside the nhl (chabot and white) -spatso
Joined: 03.14.2014

Feb 14 @ 11:18 PM ET
While you mopes argue about whether your loser team makes the playoffs I'll be drinking this beer & soaking in this expected win tonight. Cya!!
- twiztedmike


I think you picked a good time to switch teams.
twiztedmike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2007

Feb 14 @ 11:22 PM ET
I think you picked a good time to switch teams.
- Tumbleweed

an expected win against a good team is always better than a 7-1 win against 2 sleeping goalies
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Feb 15 @ 5:16 AM ET
Especially against a non playoff team. Those are guaranteed wins.
- daeth


Ottawa has not played Buffalo very well. Eichel played a very strong game and gave Ottawa fits all evening.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Feb 15 @ 5:19 AM ET
Laine scored too so this was an extra bad day for the leafs
- daeth


Hat trick!
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Feb 15 @ 5:53 AM ET
Hat trick!
- spatso

What an inspirational story for the Sens!
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Feb 15 @ 8:04 AM ET
Ignoring the part where you said you didn't think the knights would claim Phaneuf eh?

Ignoring something doesn't make it go away. Burying your shame just makes you lash out in other ways.

- Feeling Glucky?



If you were the Ottawa GM, what would you do? Protect of expose Phaneuf?

just wondering
senstroll
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Sens Suck, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Feb 15 @ 8:12 AM ET
Especially against a non playoff team. Those are guaranteed wins.
- daeth


I didnt even look at the score of the Sens game..Solid win for the Sens against a non playoff team.
senstroll
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Sens Suck, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Feb 15 @ 8:45 AM ET
according to this site the sens actually have the easiest remaining schedule based on winning % in the conference

http://www.playoffstatus....hl/easternsosrg.html#sflx

it seems like strength of schedule is like playoff odds, each site looks at it differently and shows different numbers...........although I'm not sure why since unlike playoff odds strength of schedule is pretty easy to figure out.

either way, Ottawa's schedule outside of a small stretch in March is pretty soft to end the year.

- sensarmy_11



So far since this was posted Jan 30th

Leafs 3-3-2
Sens 3-4

D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Feb 15 @ 8:59 AM ET
So far since this was posted Jan 30th

Leafs 3-3-2
Sens 3-4

- senstroll



leafs are the best at finding ways to collect "loser points", 11 so far, best in the league. Ottawa has a hard time scoring a tying goal to give them a chance to "at least get a loser point", and last night was good example of that .................. they had more than the last half of the third period to tie the game, and could not.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: they are going to add the two best players outside the nhl (chabot and white) -spatso
Joined: 03.14.2014

Feb 15 @ 10:05 AM ET
Ottawa has not played Buffalo very well. Eichel played a very strong game and gave Ottawa fits all evening.
- spatso


agreed. even the sabres will overtake the sens soon enough.
senstroll
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Sens Suck, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Feb 15 @ 10:05 AM ET
leafs are the best at finding ways to collect "loser points", 11 so far, best in the league. Ottawa has a hard time scoring a tying goal to give them a chance to "at least get a loser point", and last night was good example of that .................. they had more than the last half of the third period to tie the game, and could not.
- D0PPELGANGER


Its actually more that they have found ways to give away the extra point. they are near the top of the League for time spent with the Lead, they have had big issues holding Leads.

Thats a big difference.

senstroll
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Sens Suck, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Feb 15 @ 10:44 AM ET
Time spent with the Lead (mins)

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