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sensarmy_11
Ottawa Senators
Location: If Ottawa traded ryan for clarkson sens would need to add a pick - Prock, NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Feb 9 @ 3:41 PM ET
2013 is still 4 years ago. He was 27. He's almost 32 years old now. Do you realize how much players slow down at this age?

There's no point in even comparing those two.



You can call it idiotic all you want. I firmly believe he will never be a number one dman for a Stanley Cup winning team. That's my opinion. Even if he were traded to another organization. Still no.

- prock


Pretty sure everyone but you would call it idiotic which is a pretty good indication that it is in fact completely retarded.

Sundin was never a #1 center on a cup winning team.....he must have really sucked. Ovi hasn't made it out of the 2nd Rd......suppose you wouldn't take him for free either?
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Feb 9 @ 3:42 PM ET
I am back in here again
- Crimsoninja


Summary of the last 565 pages please
sensarmy_11
Ottawa Senators
Location: If Ottawa traded ryan for clarkson sens would need to add a pick - Prock, NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Feb 9 @ 3:43 PM ET
2013 is still 4 years ago. He was 27. He's almost 32 years old now. Do you realize how much players slow down at this age?

There's no point in even comparing those two.


- prock


Wasn't arguing he's a top dman now......What's that have to do with anything. Does that change the fact that you argued he was a top 10 dman 3-4 years ago when the truth was he wasn't even close.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Keller and Strome could both be better than Tavares. jimmy troller
Joined: 03.14.2014

Feb 9 @ 3:47 PM ET
I am back in here again
- Crimsoninja


twiztedmike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2007

Feb 9 @ 3:50 PM ET
Summary of the last 565 pages please
- PhillySportsGuy

Basically between now and the last time you came by we learned to be really respectful of other posters on this wonderful website and we look forward to your controversial views so we can debate them respectfully and intelligently
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Keller and Strome could both be better than Tavares. jimmy troller
Joined: 03.14.2014

Feb 9 @ 4:13 PM ET
Summary of the last 565 pages please
- PhillySportsGuy


IIRC, my posts looked something like this:

systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Feb 9 @ 4:42 PM ET
Happy Phaneuf trade day everyone.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Feb 9 @ 4:42 PM ET
IIRC, my posts looked something like this:


- Tumbleweed

senstroll
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Sens Suck, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Feb 9 @ 5:02 PM ET
no, but:

9. Thomas Chabot
13. Colin White
22. Kasperi Kapanen
26. Logan Brown
37. Jeremy Bracco
50. Brendan Leipsic
Goalies:
7. Joseph Woll

SENS

- Tumbleweed


Def Sens
senstroll
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Sens Suck, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Feb 9 @ 5:03 PM ET
Draglikepull ‏@draglikepull

Even after TOR's recent losing skid, they're still 12th in pts%, 9th in true goal differential (no ENG or SO), 11th in score-adjusted Corsi.

Draglikepull ‏@draglikepull

Basically the Leafs are right around the top third of the league in the major team stats and are in very good position to make the playoffs.

Draglikepull ‏@draglikepull

As long as Andersen stops allowing 5 goals every game.



Mike Kelly ‏@MikeKellyNHL

Senators: First half of the season (Games 1-41)
Save %: .915 (10th)
Record: 22-14-4
Since..
Save %: .882 (28th)
Record: 5-4-2



but then this makes me think its the Leafs
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Feb 9 @ 5:38 PM ET
Crazy busy at work, drove home in snow/freezing rain storm Tuesday night and heard third period of Sens/Blues. Sounded like Sens played a brutal game.

One more week and I head to Florida for 7 weeks. Funny but most of my serious hockey watching is while I am in Florida. Hope to step up my commentary after next week.
twiztedmike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2007

Feb 9 @ 5:40 PM ET
Crazy busy at work, drove home in snow/freezing rain storm Tuesday night and heard third period of Sens/Blues. Sounded like Sens played a brutal game.

One more week and I head to Florida for 7 weeks. Funny but most of my serious hockey watching is while I am in Florida. Hope to step up my commentary after next week.

- spatso

Yes. We all hope you step it up.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Feb 9 @ 6:51 PM ET
talk to us once they vastly improve their defensive corps.
- D0PPELGANGER

And you talk to us when the Sens vastly improve their forwards, their prospect pool, their management, their ownership, their 2-6 dmen, and the durability of what few good players they do have.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Feb 9 @ 6:56 PM ET
Crazy busy at work, drove home in snow/freezing rain storm Tuesday night and heard third period of Sens/Blues. Sounded like Sens played a brutal game.

One more week and I head to Florida for 7 weeks. Funny but most of my serious hockey watching is while I am in Florida. Hope to step up my commentary after next week.

- spatso


Thank you. I fear that after these last two weeks of laughing at your old posts, we may only be down to two, three hundred more gems max before we run out. Renewable resources are important.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Feb 9 @ 9:12 PM ET
And the GM who brought in Clarkson and gave him an un-tradeable, un- buyoutable and un-moveable contact is now, it seems, in charge of the re-build.


But it's okay, this time it's going to work.

- Doppleganger



systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Feb 9 @ 9:29 PM ET
What do you mean? The leafs are stuck with their current core players because they all are signed to long term untradable contracts.They will have a tough time retaining all the UFAs and RFAs on their roster for next season as they have essentially zero cap space to re-sign them all. As for signing another saviour UFA like Clarkson, many UFAs are not attracted to the circus like atmosphere that surrounds the leafs.


Ottawa has a wealth of young talent that are getting better game by game, and have tonnes of cap space for next year

- Doppleganger




Wooooooo!

Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Keller and Strome could both be better than Tavares. jimmy troller
Joined: 03.14.2014

Feb 9 @ 9:42 PM ET

- systemtool


Spatso's posts

prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Feb 9 @ 9:52 PM ET
Pretty sure everyone but you would call it idiotic which is a pretty good indication that it is in fact completely retarded.

Sundin was never a #1 center on a cup winning team.....he must have really sucked. Ovi hasn't made it out of the 2nd Rd......suppose you wouldn't take him for free either?

- sensarmy_11


sending never won a cup because he was never surrounded by great players. when he did have good players he consistently went deep.

Karlsson isn't number one dman on a cup winning team even if he gets traded to a team that will surround him with great players.

that's my opinion.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Feb 9 @ 10:23 PM ET
Great game by Phaneuf. 1st star on the night. Guys a warrior for sure!
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Liljegren tanked to get the Leafs
Joined: 07.14.2011

Feb 9 @ 10:30 PM ET
Great game by Phaneuf. 1st star on the night. Guys a warrior for sure!
- spatso

Spatso's night off?



(frank) me.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Feb 10 @ 6:19 AM ET
Great game by Phaneuf. 1st star on the night. Guys a warrior for sure!
- spatso



Yea! A Warrior! For sure!
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Feb 10 @ 7:55 AM ET
Yea! A Warrior! For sure!
- systemtool


Ah! Come on guys, lighten up. Is it so hard to admit that Phaneuf was a great acquisition for the Sens? Does not change the fact that it was also a good ideal for the Leafs in terms of their overall development. Everything looks good from my perspective.
senstroll
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Sens Suck, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Feb 10 @ 8:43 AM ET
Great game by Phaneuf. 1st star on the night. Guys a warrior for sure!
- spatso


Sens should give the Star to Hudler

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-_VtPO31b0

D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Feb 10 @ 9:14 AM ET
Ah! Come on guys, lighten up. Is it so hard to admit that Phaneuf was a great acquisition for the Sens? Does not change the fact that it was also a good ideal for the Leafs in terms of their overall development. Everything looks good from my perspective.
- spatso



I would never call it a "great acquisition".

Ottawa needed a "Phaneuf type" of D-man for their second pairing, as it was obvious, that after a number of serious injuries and surgeries, that Cowen's time in the NHL was over ....... so they made the trade to unload a bunch of players no longer considered part of their future, and the leafs pretty much did the same thing, but perhaps with more need to free up cap space.

Each team received what they wanted ........ Ottawa now has solid, hard nosed type of D-man for their second pairing, the type that forwards don't necessarily like to stand beside when in front of the net.

Phaneuf plays a steady solid physical type of game, that the Sens need .............nothing more nothing less. The fact that he contributes in other areas, on and off the ice, is just a bonus.

He's not the superstar defenseman you seem to trying to convince yourself, and others he is. leaf fans are happy he's gone, for their money reasons mostly, and Ottawa fans are happy that he fills the physical role that Cowen was earmarked for, but could not, for the aforementioned reasons.......... nothing more nothing less.

Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Keller and Strome could both be better than Tavares. jimmy troller
Joined: 03.14.2014

Feb 10 @ 9:59 AM ET
Ah! Come on guys, lighten up. Is it so hard to admit that Phaneuf was a great acquisition for the Sens? Does not change the fact that it was also a good ideal for the Leafs in terms of their overall development. Everything looks good from my perspective.
- spatso


This guy will probably find it hard to admit:

Every team has a bad contract or, at least one, they wish were different. In the case of the Leafs the Clarkson and Phaneuf deals are very pricey and really cuts down on their options this off season.
- spatso
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