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twiztedmike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2007

Feb 8 @ 7:23 PM ET
Neither did Spatso, apparently. I bet his wife knew how likely it would be though. Just a hunch.
- systemtool

I'm sure she's happy that spatso is having a great time with his friends on the internet
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Feb 8 @ 7:23 PM ET
Kind of humour we all appreciate.

Fans of the team with the worst record in the NHL show up and talk about other teams without regard for the speck in the eye of their own team. Perhaps Leaf fans would be wise to check the scoreboard and standings before launching into criticism of other teams. If the Leafs were a really awful team last year that would be one thing. But, it has been 10 years of failure and this year does not look any better.

If the Leafs are following the Oiler rebuild model (which I think they are). The Leafs are in the second year of the rebuild. Oilers are headed into year 7 without having made the playoffs and the Leafs don't have McDavid.

- spatso



Yeah guys. Check the scoreboard and the standings!
twiztedmike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2007

Feb 8 @ 7:25 PM ET
d0pps, I am so, so sorry that spatso ruined your opportunity to troll Leafs fans
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Feb 8 @ 7:25 PM ET
I'm sure she's happy that spatso is having a great time with his friends on the internet
- twiztedmike


I don't think she was happy when he trolled Leaf thread while in church.

Seriously. He actually did.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Feb 8 @ 7:27 PM ET
d0pps, I am so, so sorry that spatso ruined your opportunity to troll Leafs fans
- twiztedmike


I bet he's thankfull for the distraction
daeth
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: when it's a 3 taco-bell town, maybe they'll be ready, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Feb 8 @ 7:29 PM ET
I don't think she was happy when he trolled Leaf thread while in church.

Seriously. He actually did.

- systemtool

He's a priest and a good citizen. Lets not make fun of him anymore.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Feb 8 @ 7:29 PM ET
Calder favourite? Marner or Matthews?

Man I wish the Leafs had a good rookie like that. Can you imagine!

- daeth


Leafs fans are just upset that it's a great year for rookies - spatso.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Feb 8 @ 7:30 PM ET
He's a priest and a good citizen. Lets not make fun of him anymore.
- daeth


True. His own comments do a better job than any of us could.
twiztedmike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2007

Feb 8 @ 7:31 PM ET
He's a priest and a good citizen. Lets not make fun of him anymore.
- daeth

D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Feb 8 @ 7:55 PM ET

- penguininnevada




systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Feb 8 @ 8:13 PM ET

- D0PPELGANGER


Way to support animal cruelty without even having a roll up the rim cup by quoting that image. I swear, Sens fans have no class. The guy posting the original pic was just trying to point out the douchebaggery of the driver. But leave it to a Sens fan to make fun of the poor animal. This thread sinks any lower and it would be on the same level as Lazar.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Feb 8 @ 9:27 PM ET
Oh silly leaf fans

The only thing you can hang your hat on is that the leafs owners sign players to retirement contracts (Clarkson and Phaneuf) to play like crap when it counts, by sucking millions of dollars out of their fans pockets by charging the highest ticket prices in the NHL.

SO in your silly minds, because the leafs spend tons more cash, than the Senators, to play just enough to finish a little ahead of the Senators, and miss the playoffs again.


- Doppleganger


Damn D0pps. Accountability.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Feb 8 @ 9:33 PM ET
the sens have a top 10 prospect group (according to most "experts"), while the leafs group is rated as one of the 5 worst in the NHL.

a single 1st rd pick, in a weak draft, isn't gonna change that one way or the other.

- sensarmy_11



Man how things change...
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Feb 8 @ 9:38 PM ET
That's something I'd think a delusional leaf fan would believe..............oh wait!

Sports Illustrated puts out an annual list of the NHL's most overrated players, and Phaneuf is either number one or number two.

Objective leaf fans know this, but delusional ones actually believe as you do.

Did you not watch Phaneuf standing in front of his net, when Boston scored the last two goals of the third period in last year, in game 7? He was standing by himself, LOOKING at Chara or Lucic, not checking or tying them up, LOOKING at them.

If that's what passes for "one of the better two way defenseman around" in your eyes, then you're welcome to him.


On Boston's third goal, Dion passes the puck to a Bruin's winger at the side of the net, he passes in back to the point, the shot comes to the leaf's net, Lucic is standing there with Dion standing a few feet away LOOKING at him as he scoops up the rebound and puts it in the net.


On Boston's fourth goal, Chara nudges Dion away from the front of the leaf's net, and he stays away, does a shoulder check and LOOKS at Chara deflecting the point shot into the net.


Those two goals put the game into overtime, and wisely Carlye had the common sense to not use Dion much in the overtime, but that was not enough............the leafs choked away the game mostly because of their timid captain's unwillingness to battle for space in front of his own net, the leafs suffered the worst third period collapse, in a game seven, in Stanley Cup history



IF Dion did his job, the leafs would have easily advanced to the second round last year.



start watching from about the 0755 min mark.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbsj9-JZm4g

- Doppleganger


Oops?
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Feb 8 @ 9:40 PM ET
well then, i guess most of the people in the leafs threads must be delusional. i figure at least 80% of them think phaneuf is very overpaid, and of those 80%, at least half want him off the team.

but keep telling yourself he's worth 7 mil until 2021. that's a little less than weber and suter make, the same amount that doughty makes, and more than chara, pietrangelo, keith, mcdonough, girodano, karlsson, subban, OEL, yandle, girardi, etc.

the players who make more, or the same as phaneuf, are LIGHT YEARS better than him. and there isn't a single player on the list that he makes more than, that I, or most NHL GMs, wouldn't take ahead of phaneuf.

jesus, the guy was rated BY HIS PEERS, as the most overrated player in the league.

but, you enjoy him for the next 8 years

- sensarmy_11



Oh. Yea...
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Feb 8 @ 9:41 PM ET
certainly not apples and oranges. unless you think weber would have gotten 10 million had he signed this year.

perhaps the RFAs are a little different, but not that different. the really good players are still gonna get paid.

no matter how you slice it, phaneuf is overpaid....in money, and more importantly, in term.

he's one of the 4-5 highest paid d-men in teh league, but is NOWHERE CLOSE to being one of the 4-5 best d-men in teh league. hence, overpaid.

- sensarmy_11


Agreed
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: they are going to add the two best players outside the nhl (chabot and white) -spatso
Joined: 03.14.2014

Feb 8 @ 9:54 PM ET
Whoa

Spatso and co. getting wrecked

twiztedmike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2007

Feb 8 @ 9:57 PM ET
yeah I dont get it..he seemed to have the fix for the problem

Ian Mendes ‏@ian_mendes
Dave Cameron says he would like each player to improve by 5 per cent. He says that 20 guys doing that would equal 100 per cent improvement.

- senstroll

systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Feb 8 @ 10:05 PM ET

- twiztedmike



They've been getting it all year which is why they are where they are.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Feb 8 @ 10:27 PM ET
he might eventually be better, but right now it's not close. lazar is a complete player, even the pro toronto media (like o'neill and ward) were praising his game last night. they said nylander has potential and skill, but isn't close to being ready yet. even when he reaches his potential, nylander is unlikely to be anything but a point producer, lacking the "overall game", where lazar has tons of offensive upside to go along with the physicality and 2-way game.

so, i stand by my . he might eventually be better, but right now lazar is clearly the better player.

- sensarmy_11


Damn...
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Feb 8 @ 10:29 PM ET
Kind of funny to hear TSN broadcast crew rave about the complete player that Lazar has become, far beyond what you would expect for his age. And, they talk about Nylanders lack of physical presence to play at the NHL level. Yet, the koolaid brigade proceeds to anoint William as the next coming without regard to just how hard it really is to get to the next step.
- spatso



Oh Spatso....
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Feb 8 @ 10:31 PM ET
You realize Kadri was on the ice for all 3 goals scored by the B Sens? In the same game Cowen played 24 minutes and ended the night +1.
- spatso



How did this turn out?
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Feb 8 @ 10:32 PM ET
A quick look at each players resumes' tell a different story.

One player has gone all the way in the CHL and the Memorial Cup........both the great preperation for the NHL, the other has little playing time in the North American environment



William Nylander
Center
Born May 1 1996 -- Calgary, ALTA
Height 5.11 -- Weight 174 -- Shoots R


Selected by Toronto Maple Leafs round 1 #8 overall 2014 NHL Entry Draft

--- Regular Season --- ---- Playoffs ----
Season Team Lge GP G A Pts PIM GP G A Pts PIM
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
2012-13 Sodertalje SK Swe-1 8 4 2 6 2
2013-14 Sodertalje SK Swe-1 17 11 8 19 6
2013-14 Rogle BK Swe-1 18 4 4 8 10
2013-14 Modo Hockey Ornskoldsvik SweHL 22 1 6 7 6 -- -- -- -- --
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Curtis Lazar
Center
Born Feb 2 1995 -- Vernon, BC
Height 6.00 -- Weight 205 -- Shoots R


Selected by Ottawa Senators round 1 #17 overall 2013 NHL Entry Draft

--- Regular Season --- ---- Playoffs ----
Season Team Lge GP G A Pts PIM GP G A Pts PIM
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
2010-11 Edmonton Oil Kings WHL 6 0 1 1 0 4 1 0 1 0
2011-12 Edmonton Oil Kings WHL 63 20 11 31 56 20 8 11 19 4
2012-13 Edmonton Oil Kings WHL 72 38 23 61 47 22 9 2 11 20
2013-14 Edmonton Oil Kings WHL 58 41 35 76 30 21 10 12 22 12

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------




- Doppleganger


Oh...
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Feb 8 @ 10:41 PM ET
I'm not a big fan of the Ryan trade. Don't like those kind of deals. But it strikes me as entirely bizarre when Leaf fans become sanctimonious over a $7m deal for Ryan. Re ber the Leafs just started a $7m with Phaneuf. Unbelievable.
- spatso



I know right? Now imagine if Ottawa had BOTH players. That, Spatso, would be unbelievable.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Feb 8 @ 10:52 PM ET
you're completely incapable of not trolling sens players.....it's (frank)ign hilarious

yes, lazar is poop, he's 2nd in tournament scoring (tied with nylander, with twice as many goals) ONLY because of mcdavid.

- sensarmy_11



Agreed.
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