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prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Feb 8 @ 10:17 AM ET
Just as many as there were in the leafs net vs the Islanders.

Let's remember that Ottawa's starting goaltender, has only played in 19 games so far this season, and managed to win 12 of them. The remaining 32 games were played with either our 2nd or 3rd back up goaltenders.

The leafs have had their starting goaltender play 43 games for them .......... I suspect if Ottawa had their starter for 43 games this season, they would probably be sitting much more comfortably in a playoff spot than they are now.

- D0PPELGANGER


Sens fans talk of what might have been if not for injuries every f*&king year. It's like one of Spatso's phases.
daeth
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: when it's a 3 taco-bell town, maybe they'll be ready, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Feb 8 @ 10:22 AM ET
I finally have some free time so I can update everyone on the sportsclubstats playoff odds again.

http://www.sportsclubstats.com/NHL.html

Toronto 83.3%
Ottawa 74.5%
daeth
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: when it's a 3 taco-bell town, maybe they'll be ready, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Feb 8 @ 10:23 AM ET
Sens fans talk of what might have been if not for injuries every f*&king year. It's like one of Spatso's phases.
- prock

It gets to the point where you have to just think, hmm, maybe we have injury prone players.
senstroll
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Sens Suck, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Feb 8 @ 10:26 AM ET
It gets to the point where you have to just think, hmm, maybe we have injury prone players.
- daeth



Well Anderson is not out because he is injured
senstroll
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Sens Suck, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Feb 8 @ 10:29 AM ET
Doubtful.

Condon has given you guys very good goal goaltending up until recently…as good or better than Anderson

Your condon has finally burst…

- Tumbleweed


right.. up until recently he was sitting at around .915 or a little more.. I guess it possible Anderson does better, but he is a career .920 with Ottawa

so they might be a in little better spot..but not much..and there is always the chance he is a little worse

daeth
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: when it's a 3 taco-bell town, maybe they'll be ready, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Feb 8 @ 10:33 AM ET
Well Anderson is not out because he is injured
- senstroll

This changes everything
senstroll
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Sens Suck, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Feb 8 @ 12:20 PM ET
This changes everything
- daeth



Yes Cancer does
senstroll
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Sens Suck, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Feb 8 @ 12:22 PM ET
50+ games in and the Leafs and Sens are tied in points

Spatso saw this coming

daeth
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: when it's a 3 taco-bell town, maybe they'll be ready, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Feb 8 @ 12:24 PM ET
Yes Cancer does
- senstroll

top 10 in man games lost last year. with macarthur out all year i'm sure they're up there again too.

it gets to the point where you can't really be surprised anymore. like lupul in toronto.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: they are going to add the two best players outside the nhl (chabot and white) -spatso
Joined: 03.14.2014

Feb 8 @ 12:26 PM ET
top 10 in man games lost last year. with macarthur out all year i'm sure they're up there again too.

it gets to the point where you can't really be surprised anymore. like lupul in toronto.

- daeth


Leafs got to be up there with lupul, robidas and horton injuries...
daeth
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: when it's a 3 taco-bell town, maybe they'll be ready, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Feb 8 @ 12:28 PM ET
Leafs got to be up there with lupul, robidas and horton injuries...
- Tumbleweed

i don't really feel they count personally. them being on the IR is better for the team than them being healthy.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: they are going to add the two best players outside the nhl (chabot and white) -spatso
Joined: 03.14.2014

Feb 8 @ 12:43 PM ET
i don't really feel they count personally. them being on the IR is better for the team than them being healthy.
- daeth


I am just saying why we can’t talk about this. I agree, the leafs are better with those guys on the IR, but why can’t we talk about all the man-games lost to injury the leafs had this season.
senstroll
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Sens Suck, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Feb 8 @ 12:57 PM ET
top 10 in man games lost last year. with macarthur out all year i'm sure they're up there again too.

it gets to the point where you can't really be surprised anymore. like lupul in toronto.

- daeth


top 10 out of 30 teams

Does being out for your wife being sick count in he man games lost dept?
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Feb 8 @ 12:57 PM ET
Doubtful.

Condon has given you guys very good goal goaltending up until recently…as good or better than Anderson

Your condon has finally burst…

- Tumbleweed



Condon has been adequate up until his last Ten or Twelve games........ about the time he's been showing fatigue.

No question, getting Anderson back will help the team .............. but they need to score more goals, because at this time of the season, all teams start to get their defensive game plans in order.

Craig Anderson GAA 2.46 - S% .924
Mike Condon GAA 2.58 - S% .911


Not_Yan
St Louis Blues
Location: it's an excellent product, easier, quicker, and even better than real mashed potatoes.
Joined: 04.19.2013

Feb 8 @ 12:59 PM ET
Is it even close?
- twiztedmike


This part is not on my job description
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Feb 8 @ 1:00 PM ET
Sens fans talk of what might have been if not for injuries every f*&king year. It's like one of Spatso's phases.
- prock



leaf fans have been whining all season about their teams unfair schedule, with too may b2b games and playing too many rested team than all other teams ...... every freaking year they complain about crap.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: they are going to add the two best players outside the nhl (chabot and white) -spatso
Joined: 03.14.2014

Feb 8 @ 1:06 PM ET
Condon has been adequate up until his last Ten or Twelve games........ about the time he's been showing fatigue.

No question, getting Anderson back will help the team .............. but they need to score more goals, because at this time of the season, all teams start to get their defensive game plans in order.

Craig Anderson GAA 2.46 - S% .924
Mike Condon GAA 2.58 - S% .911

- D0PPELGANGER


Agreed. The last couple weeks he started to leak and finally burst this past week.

But up until January 22 he was as good as Anderson:

.920 & 2.32 from Nov 2 to Jan 22.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Feb 8 @ 1:35 PM ET
leaf fans have been whining all season about their teams unfair schedule, with too may b2b games and playing too many rested team than all other teams ...... every freaking year they complain about crap.
- D0PPELGANGER



I sure as (frank) have not. In fact, I don't think anyone has. I believe one of the Leaf fans responded to complaints from Sens fans regarding THEIR schedule.

The only comments I've made on the schedule were regarding the Sens fans having a relatively easy schedule early on, and very difficult throuigh December and Jan.

We've been hearing about Bobby Ryan and his broken fingers and wrists and years now, Macarthur and his concussions, and poop, it took about 4 years for a lot of Sens fans to stop saying Karlsson was still suffering from his achilles.
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Feb 8 @ 5:45 PM ET
I sure as (frank) have not. In fact, I don't think anyone has. I believe one of the Leaf fans responded to complaints from Sens fans regarding THEIR schedule.

The only comments I've made on the schedule were regarding the Sens fans having a relatively easy schedule early on, and very difficult throuigh December and Jan.

We've been hearing about Bobby Ryan and his broken fingers and wrists and years now, Macarthur and his concussions, and poop, it took about 4 years for a lot of Sens fans to stop saying Karlsson was still suffering from his achilles.

- prock



I agree, you did not, but a couple of other leaf fans were.



none of that matters..its nothing new, Team playing b2b vs a rested team (a team that did not play the night before) preform poorly ..there are lots of articles on it with lots of Data.

Now over a season if all teams had roughly the same amount it wouldnt really matter too much..but thats not the case

Ottawa gets a good schedule and the Leafs not so much when it comes tob2b


- senstroll



I don't get how the league can make the swing's so dramatic. Obviously it's hard to schedule all the teams each year, but the Leafs having to play a rested team while tired 14 times and the Sens only having to do it 7 times is frankly bizarre. I mean twice as many? C'mon.

Also, if they want to make these rivalries they keep talking bout, how do you have divisional match ups were the Leafs play the night before and the Sens and Habs don't.

What rivalry are you creating when one team is still divulging what happened the night before and the other is sipping pina coladas?

- walshyleafsfan



Can you show me how many there were for that season, Id like to take a look at it


Edit: I think I found it for 13-14 season

Leafs Tired - 9
Ottawa Tired - 11
high low ranged from 6-16


Leafs rested - 10
Ottawa rested - 11
high low ranged from 5-20


So I would say the leafs have it worse this season.

Also I am not against the compressed schedule... its the huge disparity in b2b tired vs rested thats the issue. Its an advantage for several teams

- senstroll
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Feb 8 @ 6:23 PM ET
I agree, you did not, but a couple of other leaf fans were.
- D0PPELGANGER


I recall the posts but also seem to recall that was preceeded by complaints from sens fans. basically a "stop your complaining you're not hard done by" from sens fans. am I wrong?
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Feb 8 @ 6:49 PM ET
Agreed. The last couple weeks he started to leak and finally burst this past week.

But up until January 22 he was as good as Anderson:

.920 & 2.32 from Nov 2 to Jan 22.

- Tumbleweed



It's all the goalies fault the Leafs are much better than the Sens offensively.
twiztedmike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2007

Feb 8 @ 6:50 PM ET
I agree, you did not, but a couple of other leaf fans were.
- D0PPELGANGER

Good backreading d0pps.

Its important to hold people accountable for what they've said and to always stick up for the truth!
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Feb 8 @ 6:56 PM ET
Perhaps hockey has never seen such a great and triumphal celebration. It is actually good for hockey. Finally, Leaf fans having something to cheer. We get to watch them revelling in their hard won victory of a last place finish. There is no doubt Leaf fans have convincingly won the summer. But, soon enough, the boys will return to the ice and once again the scoreboard will matter.
- spatso


Oh.

Accountability.
twiztedmike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2007

Feb 8 @ 6:58 PM ET
Oh.

Accountability.

- systemtool

nice
twiztedmike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2007

Feb 8 @ 7:01 PM ET
One of the better blue and white comments.

Kadri 25 years old (will be 26 by season start) 6' and 192 lbs had 17 goals, 28 assists and 48 points. He was minus (15) on the season.

ZBad 23 years old (does not have next birthday until near end of season) 6'2" and 222 lbs. had 21 goals, 30 assists and 51 points. He was minus (2) on the season.

Now tell us again, how do Sens fans misunderstand which is the better asset?

Everybody loves Leafs summer chatter.

Go big blue.
We love you
We know we are due
Don't want to feel blue
So, we'll take on a new hue
We can pretend were not screwed!

- spatso

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