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Nucker101
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: M'OUT
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jan 9 @ 1:16 AM ET
I masturbate to all injuries
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jan 9 @ 5:47 AM ET
Profoundly disappointed by those who cheer injuries, especially of the head variety.

McDavid had a wing separated last year and even though he came back before the season ended and had a great finish it still took something away from all fans who love the game.

Panarin won the Calder but there will always be an emotional asterick beside his win because of the injury to McDavid. Same now applies to this year. When the first half leader falls off it raises doubts about any of the leaders coming from the second wave.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jan 9 @ 6:10 AM ET
Profoundly disappointed by those who cheer injuries, especially of the head variety.

McDavid had a wing separated last year and even though he came back before the season ended and had a great finish it still took something away from all fans who love the game.

Panarin won the Calder but there will always be an emotional asterick beside his win because of the injury to McDavid. Same now applies to this year. When the first half leader falls off it raises doubts about any of the leaders coming from the second wave.

- spatso


(frank)ing called it
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Jan 9 @ 8:13 AM ET
I masturbate to all injuries
- Nucker101


From the looks of you, there have been a lot of injuries.


D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Jan 9 @ 8:53 AM ET
Oh oh...............is this the first straw, being placed on the "Camels' Back" ????? maple leaf Fans pissed off at Auston Matthews, for his World Junior Tweet

https://twitter.com/AM34/...71138?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw


http://nesn.com/2017/01/s...s-usa-world-junior-tweet/
senstroll
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Sens Suck, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jan 9 @ 9:49 AM ET
bobby Ryan 7 goals
Alex Chiasson 7 goals

Ryan only has like 40mil left on his contract

Oh and Roomers

Travis Yost Verified account
‏@travisyost
Sens being interested in Francois Beauchemin really says it all if true. One of worst defenders I have watched this year. Absolute toast.


Emmanuel Perry ‏@MannyElk
@travisyost I don't think we need any more proof they have no clue how to evaluate defensemen.


Beauchemin
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: they are going to add the two best players outside the nhl (chabot and white) -spatso
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jan 9 @ 10:03 AM ET
bobby Ryan 7 goals
Alex Chiasson 7 goals

Ryan only has like 40mil left on his contract

Oh and Roomers




Beauchemin

- senstroll


I have a hard time believing even the sens management is this dumb.

Beauchimen has a nmc; he'll need protection for the expansion draft if he is willing to waive.

Edit: though it would be awesome if they re-united beauch and Phaneuf.
twiztedmike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2007

Jan 9 @ 10:18 AM ET
Profoundly disappointed by those who cheer injuries, especially of the head variety.

spatso had his brain pulverized last year and even though he came back to this thread before the season ended and had an okay finish it still took something away from all fans who love the game.

Beatle_John won the Darwin award but there will always be an emotional asterick beside his win because of the injury to spatso. Same now applies to this year. When the first half leader falls off it raises doubts about any of the leaders coming from the second wave.
senstroll
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Sens Suck, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jan 9 @ 10:49 AM ET
I have a hard time believing even the sens management is this dumb.

Beauchimen has a nmc; he'll need protection for the expansion draft if he is willing to waive.

Edit: though it would be awesome if they re-united beauch and Phaneuf.

- Tumbleweed


who knows.. it was reported by an Ottawa media guy..think Garrioch

I listen to Dorion on the radio all the time.. he doesnt sound like the smartest GM out there..so makes sense to me they would be interested
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: they are going to add the two best players outside the nhl (chabot and white) -spatso
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jan 9 @ 11:06 AM ET
who knows.. it was reported by an Ottawa media guy..think Garrioch

I listen to Dorion on the radio all the time.. he doesnt sound like the smartest GM out there..so makes sense to me they would be interested

- senstroll


Hmmm..maybe I’m underestimating how dumb sens management is.
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Jan 9 @ 11:19 AM ET
bobby Ryan 7 goals
Alex Chiasson 7 goals

Ryan only has like 40mil left on his contract

Oh and Roomers




Beauchemin

- senstroll


Travis Yost & Emmanuel Perry both roomers of yours?
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: they are going to add the two best players outside the nhl (chabot and white) -spatso
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jan 9 @ 11:24 AM ET
Travis Yost & Emmanuel Perry both roomers of yours?
- D0PPELGANGER


D0pps. Can you settle this dispute. Is sens management just plain dumb like I think or really dumb like senstroll thinks?

Thanks in advance.
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Jan 9 @ 11:36 AM ET
D0pps. Can you settle this dispute. Is sens management just plain dumb like I think or really dumb like senstroll thinks?

Thanks in advance.

- Tumbleweed



They've made their fair share of "decisions" that I did not agree with at the time, or after a couple of years .......... typical "Monday morning Quarterbacking" that any fan of any team can do.

But "dumb" is not the exclusive domain of an one team in the NHL ........ and I could list a number "dumb moves" the leafs, Habs or Bruins have made.


But the Rumour(s) du jour all stem from the scratching of Bobby Ryan on Saturday night. And I'm pretty sure that is what our friend is alluding to.

Hindsight is 20/20, so it's easy to scrutinize trades, UFA signings or demotions to the minors.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Jan 9 @ 12:20 PM ET
Oh oh...............is this the first straw, being placed on the "Camels' Back" ????? maple leaf Fans pissed off at Auston Matthews, for his World Junior Tweet

https://twitter.com/AM34/...71138?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw




http://nesn.com/2017/01/s...s-usa-world-junior-tweet/

- D0PPELGANGER



Omg I hate Matthews. Camel has shattered back!

Yea no....
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Jan 9 @ 12:25 PM ET
Profoundly disappointed by those who cheer injuries, especially of the head variety.

McDavid had a wing separated last year and even though he came back before the season ended and had a great finish it still took something away from all fans who love the game.

Panarin won the Calder but there will always be an emotional asterick beside his win because of the injury to McDavid. Same now applies to this year. When the first half leader falls off it raises doubts about any of the leaders coming from the second wave.

- spatso



Well it may not be the case. Laine may not be the first half leader. So it may not be an issue.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jan 9 @ 1:40 PM ET
When I heard that Ryan was scratched Saturday night, my first thought was that the Sens were about to trade him. I was disappointed when he dressed Sunday night. I like the person that Bobby Ryan is but it was a mistake to trade for him and a far greater mistake to resign him to a long term deal. He is not a good enough skater. You can be a weak technical skater when your young. But as you get older the poor skating does you in almost all the time. There are a few exceptions (Brett Hull, and maybe Cory Perry, but even Perry has had extended bad moments this year.)
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Jan 9 @ 1:43 PM ET
When I heard that Ryan was scratched Saturday night, my first thought was that the Sens were about to trade him. I was disappointed when he dressed Sunday night. I like the person that Bobby Ryan is but it was a mistake to trade for him and a far greater mistake to resign him to a long term deal. He is not a good enough skater. You can be a weak technical skater when your young. But as you get older the poor skating does you in almost all the time. There are a few exceptions (Brett Hull, and maybe Cory Perry, but even Perry has had extended bad moments this year.)
- spatso



No one will take him. The Sens are stuck with him and Phaneuf long term, unless they're willing to cough up a boat load of draft picks, and retain a tonne of salary, to dump them. We know the Sens are not willing to do either.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jan 9 @ 2:20 PM ET
No one will take him. The Sens are stuck with him and Phaneuf long term, unless they're willing to cough up a boat load of draft picks, and retain a tonne of salary, to dump them. We know the Sens are not willing to do either.
- prock


I think the Sens are very happy with Phaneuf. He plays good minutes in tough situations and has been a strong mentor for Ceci. I think Ceci played 27 minutes last night against the Oilers. Nearly 5 minutes more than Karlsson. With Chabot on the horizon the Sens will need to move a Dman but I don't think it would be either Phaneuf or Ceci.

Moving Ryan will not be nearly as difficult as what people might think. The Sens will have 3 and possibly as many as 4 new players coming into their lineup next season. I believe it becomes imperative that Ryan gets moved, sent down or retires.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jan 9 @ 2:31 PM ET
I think the Sens are very happy with Phaneuf. He plays good minutes in tough situations and has been a strong mentor for Ceci. I think Ceci played 27 minutes last night against the Oilers. Nearly 5 minutes more than Karlsson. With Chabot on the horizon the Sens will need to move a Dman but I don't think it would be either Phaneuf or Ceci.

Moving Ryan will not be nearly as difficult as what people might think. The Sens will have 3 and possibly as many as 4 new players coming into their lineup next season. I believe it becomes imperative that Ryan gets moved, sent down or retires.

- spatso

If Ryan retires, he doesn't get paid, so that's not going to happen. If he gets sent down, it becomes even less likely that he can be traded, and Ottawa is now paying him not to play... which isn't in the wheelhouse of a budget team like the Sens.

In all likelihood, if he gets traded, it's to a team with lots of money, that can send over a bunch of bigger cap hits worth less overall dollars - but there aren't many opportunities like that available... or Ottawa gives up some high picks or prospects to a team with money and cap space. Unfortunately for Ottawa, they don't have much outside of picks to offer, and they need to keep those picks to help their bare cupboards.

I think we see Ryan staying a Sen, at the expense of RFAs looking for raises being sent elsewhere.
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Jan 9 @ 2:45 PM ET
I think the Sens are very happy with Phaneuf. He plays good minutes in tough situations and has been a strong mentor for Ceci. I think Ceci played 27 minutes last night against the Oilers. Nearly 5 minutes more than Karlsson. With Chabot on the horizon the Sens will need to move a Dman but I don't think it would be either Phaneuf or Ceci.

Moving Ryan will not be nearly as difficult as what people might think. The Sens will have 3 and possibly as many as 4 new players coming into their lineup next season. I believe it becomes imperative that Ryan gets moved, sent down or retires.

- spatso




When you say "people" you really mean yourself, right?

Ryan has Modified both NTC & NMC clauses in his contract, so HE decides if he gets traded or sent down, not the team.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: they are going to add the two best players outside the nhl (chabot and white) -spatso
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jan 9 @ 3:34 PM ET
They've made their fair share of "decisions" that I did not agree with at the time, or after a couple of years .......... typical "Monday morning Quarterbacking" that any fan of any team can do.

But "dumb" is not the exclusive domain of an one team in the NHL ........ and I could list a number "dumb moves" the leafs, Habs or Bruins have made.


But the Rumour(s) du jour all stem from the scratching of Bobby Ryan on Saturday night. And I'm pretty sure that is what our friend is alluding to.

Hindsight is 20/20, so it's easy to scrutinize trades, UFA signings or demotions to the minors.

- D0PPELGANGER


It’s obvious current sens management includes melnyk in decision making. His tendency to want to reduce costs has led to and will continue to lead to bad decisions.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: they are going to add the two best players outside the nhl (chabot and white) -spatso
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jan 9 @ 3:35 PM ET
When you say "people" you really mean yourself, right?

Ryan has Modified both NTC & NMC clauses in his contract, so HE decides if he gets traded or sent down, not the team.

- D0PPELGANGER


lol. good post d0pps.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jan 9 @ 3:35 PM ET
Travis Yost ‏@travisyost 18h18 hours ago
Curtis Lazar's career goal pace: 6 goals per-82 games.

Is he an NHL'er?

Travis Yost ‏@travisyost 18h18 hours ago
At some point you're gonna have to ask how much his draft status is keeping him around.

Travis Yost ‏@travisyost 18h18 hours ago
Worse EV rate scorers than Lazar: Bellemare, Stoll, Tootoo, Desjardins. That's it.

Travis Yost ‏@travisyost 17h17 hours ago
Where should I vacation next I am open to recommendations
senstroll
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Sens Suck, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jan 9 @ 3:39 PM ET
Travis Yost ‏@travisyost 18h18 hours ago
Curtis Lazar's career goal pace: 6 goals per-82 games.

Is he an NHL'er?

Travis Yost ‏@travisyost 18h18 hours ago
At some point you're gonna have to ask how much his draft status is keeping him around.

Travis Yost ‏@travisyost 18h18 hours ago
Worse EV rate scorers than Lazar: Bellemare, Stoll, Tootoo, Desjardins. That's it.

Travis Yost ‏@travisyost 17h17 hours ago
Where should I vacation next I am open to recommendations

- PhillySportsGuy


Not Ottawa..its (frank)ing cold
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jan 9 @ 3:40 PM ET
Not Ottawa..its (frank)ing cold
- senstroll


Do people visit Ottawa in the summer?
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