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senstroll
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Sens Suck, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Dec 22 @ 12:50 PM ET
I suspect you'll see a huge from Anderw Nielsen, who started the year in the AHL at 19 years old, 19 points in 27 games. Very impressive.

The Leafs scouting staff is really proving their worth. No busts like Logan Brown here.

- prock


You cant help yourself
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: everyday i see my dream
Joined: 03.14.2014

Dec 22 @ 12:59 PM ET
I suspect you'll see a huge from Anderw Nielsen, who started the year in the AHL at 19 years old, 19 points in 27 games. Very impressive.

The Leafs scouting staff is really proving their worth. No busts like Logan Brown here.

- prock


Leafs prospects suck! Sens are waaaaaay better because leaf prospects can’t make their WJC squads! Who cares that many of the Leafs prospects are too old and are playing well in the AHL!!!! Who cares that Mathews and Marner are playing well in the NHL and instead of playing in a junior tournament!!! Who cares that L.Brown tried out for and proved he isn’t good enough to make his WJ squad!!! Herpa derpa derp!!!

~sensarmy
sensarmy_11
Ottawa Senators
Location: If Ottawa traded ryan for clarkson sens would need to add a pick - Prock, NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Dec 22 @ 1:00 PM ET
Excluding the leafs 'big 3’, the sens and leafs included in promen’s top 120 prospects at the beginning of the year:

26 Thomas Chabot, D, Ottawa Senators
28 Colin White, C, Ottawa Senators
41 Logan Brown, C, Ottawa Senators
58 Kasperi Kapanen, RW, Toronto Maple Leafs
67 Jeremy Bracco, RW, Toronto Maple Leafs
90 Travis Dermott, D, Toronto Maple Leafs
93 Connor Brown, RW, Toronto Maple Leafs
105 Carl Grundstrom, LW, Toronto Maple Leafs

So nothing outside of 3 guys who MIGHT be nhl players from the sens. Well, except for L.Brown, who we all now know is already a bust. So really only 2 guys who MIGHT be nhl players. Overall, from the guys on this list, the Sens prospects are stagnant/trending down, while leafs prospects are moving up.

C.Brown already proving he IS an NHL player.

- Tumbleweed


To prove that the Leafs have better prospects you post a list showing sens prospects ALL ahead of leafs prospects.....by quite a bit too.

What was that about Herpa derpa again

Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: everyday i see my dream
Joined: 03.14.2014

Dec 22 @ 1:03 PM ET
To prove that the Leafs have better prospects you post a list showing sens prospects ALL ahead of leafs prospects.....by quite a bit too.

What was that about Herpa derpa again


- sensarmy_11


needs more laughy faces. you missed putting some at the beginning.
sensarmy_11
Ottawa Senators
Location: If Ottawa traded ryan for clarkson sens would need to add a pick - Prock, NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Dec 22 @ 1:04 PM ET
needs more laughy faces. you missed putting some at the beginning.
- Tumbleweed


I guess I must have been too rattled

Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: everyday i see my dream
Joined: 03.14.2014

Dec 22 @ 1:04 PM ET
You cant help yourself
- senstroll


Brown was such a good pick. A local boy. Big. #10 overall. Sure fire nhler. So what if there’s no improvement in his ppg, but that’s because, well, reasons. Good pick. he’s local. Got cut from the junior usa squad, for, well, reasons. Good pick though. #10. A local boy. Herpa derpa derp.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Dec 22 @ 1:05 PM ET
To prove that the Leafs have better prospects you post a list showing sens prospects ALL ahead of leafs prospects.....by quite a bit too.

What was that about Herpa derpa again


- sensarmy_11



Well, I think if you ask Team USA coaching staff, Jeremy Bracco has risen up that list, at least as high as number 40.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: everyday i see my dream
Joined: 03.14.2014

Dec 22 @ 1:19 PM ET
Well, I think if you ask Team USA coaching staff, Jeremy Bracco has risen up that list, at least as high as number 40.
- prock


yeah, and l.brown and white will surely be dropping.

I still expect white on the list, but only because there were so many guys like nylander, marner, c.brown and mathews that all graduated to the NHL.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Boyle > Marleau :dopes, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Dec 22 @ 1:28 PM ET
Clearly.....I mean you have all those big name prospects playing in the WJC......oh wait, I think you have like a backup goalie for the US and a bottom pairing guy for Sweden.

You have the big 3 and then a couple of 21 or 22 year olds who MIGHT be decent nhl players.

- sensarmy_11



Check again.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Boyle > Marleau :dopes, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Dec 22 @ 1:30 PM ET
brown cut from team USA




- Tumbleweed






But he's so good.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Boyle > Marleau :dopes, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Dec 22 @ 1:32 PM ET
The leafs have nobody at wjc, if you ignore top us forward and top Swedish forward....... But the sens have the great white hope in brown who was just cut from his team.


prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Dec 22 @ 4:05 PM ET
Brown, white, chabot, chaplik, Englund, hogberg, perron........they're fine
- sensarmy_11



This honestly reminds me of the days Leaf fans used to talk about Robbie Earl and John Mitchell and be like "we're rocking guys, all set".
golfingsince
Location: The losers tonight are the people.-QP
Joined: 11.30.2011

Dec 22 @ 5:20 PM ET
This honestly reminds me of the days Leaf fans used to talk about Robbie Earl and John Mitchell and be like "we're rocking guys, all set".
- prock


You forgot Blacker
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Dec 22 @ 5:35 PM ET
You forgot Blacker
- golfingsince



Meh, I'm sure idiot Canucks fans remember it as me pumping up Blacker. but I pointed out that he was our 4th best D prospect. It was just that he was just as good as Frankie Corrado, when Canucks fans were claiming Corrado was the second coming of Jesus, and set to make Team Canada.
golfingsince
Location: The losers tonight are the people.-QP
Joined: 11.30.2011

Dec 22 @ 5:46 PM ET
Meh, I'm sure idiot Canucks fans remember it as me pumping up Blacker. but I pointed out that he was our 4th best D prospect. It was just that he was just as good as Frankie Corrado, when Canucks fans were claiming Corrado was the second coming of Jesus, and set to make Team Canada.
- prock


Esplen was.

You also said Gauthier was better than Horvat.
twiztedmike
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Typical short sighted Laffer not knowing what hockey and development is all about. -Nuck4U
Joined: 10.06.2007

Dec 22 @ 5:49 PM ET
Esplen was.

You also said Gauthier was better than Horvat.

- golfingsince

prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Dec 22 @ 6:15 PM ET
Esplen was.

You also said Gauthier was better than Horvat.

- golfingsince


I'd say that is somewhat impossible, given that it was the 2013 World Juniors, and Gauthier wasn't even drafted at that point.

Even so, it's not like there is a big difference. It's not like Horvat is very good or anything. They're both bottom 6 on a decent team.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Dec 22 @ 6:27 PM ET
2016 draft bust list:

Brown, Logan









/list

- Tumbleweed


I think he is injured (wrist). Has not played in almost 8 weeks.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Boyle > Marleau :dopes, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Dec 22 @ 6:28 PM ET
Sens have brown, they're set.
golfingsince
Location: The losers tonight are the people.-QP
Joined: 11.30.2011

Dec 22 @ 6:32 PM ET
I'd say that is somewhat impossible, given that it was the 2013 World Juniors, and Gauthier wasn't even drafted at that point.

Even so, it's not like there is a big difference. It's not like Horvat is very good or anything. They're both bottom 6 on a decent team.

- prock


Again, you can't remember what you said or when you said it.

Why would you bash Horvat in the Canucks forum back then when he wasn't drafted either?

They went in the same draft moron. Horvat has 21 points in 33 games, pretty good for a bottom 6 forward.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Dec 22 @ 7:31 PM ET
Again, you can't remember what you said or when you said it.

Why would you bash Horvat in the Canucks forum back then when he wasn't drafted either?

They went in the same draft moron. Horvat has 21 points in 33 games, pretty good for a bottom 6 forward.

- golfingsince



Yeah that happens when you take a player that belongs on the third line and plug him in the top. we saw that kind of thing with Matt stajan when he was a leaf.
daeth
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Drink full, and descend, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Dec 22 @ 7:42 PM ET
I have never heard of them
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Boyle > Marleau :dopes, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Dec 22 @ 7:48 PM ET
I have never heard of them
- daeth



Even the ones that were cut from their wjc teams?
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Dec 22 @ 10:53 PM ET
Brown, white, chabot, chaplik, Englund, hogberg, perron........they're fine
- sensarmy_11

i mean, how many bottom line spots do you want filled?
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Dec 22 @ 10:56 PM ET
Clearly.....I mean you have all those big name prospects playing in the WJC......oh wait, I think you have like a backup goalie for the US and a bottom pairing guy for Sweden.

You have the big 3 and then a couple of 21 or 22 year olds who MIGHT be decent nhl players.

- sensarmy_11

Our brown>>your brown.


And our brown isn't that high on our list.
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