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penguininnevada
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: i really am (frank)ing great. i think i need an actual gun pressed between my eyes
Joined: 09.01.2008

Dec 20 @ 10:10 PM ET
sens up 3-2

i can smell a finals appearance

- daeth



I thought this was about the Washington Senators... or ex-Montreal Expos

spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Dec 20 @ 10:23 PM ET
I'm not sure what your point is. Rielly hasn't even great defensively this year, the numbers support that. Ceci is total garbage, Karlsson is a total mess defensively. Phaneuf is a train wreck too. the numbers support all of that.

it is what it is.

at the end of the day, the Sens are total garbage. live with it.

- prock


Sorry, it was not my intention to upset you. But, I fear you exaggerate your point and it makes your input less credible. I do enjoy your posts and your research is usually pretty strong. It does, however, appear that you have slipped up on this one.
penguininnevada
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: i really am (frank)ing great. i think i need an actual gun pressed between my eyes
Joined: 09.01.2008

Dec 20 @ 10:24 PM ET
Sorry, it was not my intention to upset you. But, I fear you exaggerate your point and it makes your input less credible. I do enjoy your posts and your research is usually pretty strong. It does, however, appear that you have slipped up on this one.
- spatso

get a room
Pie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: taking the low road
Joined: 10.14.2006

Dec 20 @ 10:36 PM ET
get a room
- penguininnevada

I pray that we are only one blatant anatomy pic away from locking this poop up. I swear I've learned my lesson.
daeth
Nashville Predators
Location: shambles, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Dec 20 @ 10:37 PM ET
I pray that we are only one blatant anatomy pic away from locking this poop up. I swear I've learned my lesson.
- Pie

Pie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: taking the low road
Joined: 10.14.2006

Dec 20 @ 10:40 PM ET

- daeth

Requires James Neal therapy
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Dec 20 @ 11:12 PM ET
Awesome game. Chicago is a very good team. Maybe from an Ottawa perspective the best game of the season. Great speed and lots of grit, fun game.
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Dec 21 @ 8:12 AM ET
And a WAAAAAYYYYY better lineup.
- prock


Can't be that much better, if they're playing with their starting goaltender and still trail the Senators by 4 points despite having played one more game than the Senators.
Senators also lead the Bruins in ROWs and Wins, with one game in hand.

Montréal Canadiens .719
Ottawa Senators .621
Boston Bruins .544

Tampa Bay Lightning .530
Florida Panthers .530
Buffalo Sabres .516
toronto maple leafs .500




Ottawa was full value for their first win in Chicago in 15 years............. and on the right side of a one goal game, again.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Dec 21 @ 9:00 AM ET
Can't be that much better, if they're playing with their starting goaltender and still trail the Senators by 4 points despite having played one more game than the Senators.
Senators also lead the Bruins in ROWs and Wins, with one game in hand.

Montréal Canadiens .719
Ottawa Senators .621
Boston Bruins .544

Tampa Bay Lightning .530
Florida Panthers .530
Buffalo Sabres .516
toronto maple leafs .500




Ottawa was full value for their first win in Chicago in 15 years............. and on the right side of a one goal game, again.

- D0PPELGANGER



Wonderful game. First two periods were amazing hockey. Methot and Phaneuf were warriors as they pounded everything down low. Phaneuf contained Tavares on Sunday night and Toews (as best he could) last night. Hawks are a very good team and it was interesting to see them trying to adapt to the Sens speed.

The penalty shot was height of anxiety. Once Condon made the save I was pretty sure they were going to hang on....but there were some really close chances right up to the final buzzer..
senstroll
Location: Sens Suck, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Dec 21 @ 9:57 AM ET
You realize that Reilly basically has the same numbers GA/60 as Phaneuf. Reilly is far behind Ceci and nowhere near the kind numbers posted by Methot or Karlsson. If you use the kind of statistics you tend to favour it would clearly signal that Ceci is playing a far stronger game than Reilly.

But, and this is important, this statistic is not much different than a souped up +/-. Not sure why you harass us with essentially irrelevant data.

- spatso


I think you are way off .. Ceci offers no offence value...like at all
I just looked and Ceci has 0 5v5 points this season.
For someone getting big minutes..that is shocking.

Rielly has 9 (6 primary)



cf%
Rielly 53.16
Ceci 45.56

CA60
Rielly 58.73
Ceci 61.04

GA60
Rielly 3.01
Ceci 2.73

PDO
Rielly 96.62
Ceci 97.0

On Ice sv%
Rielly .902
Ceci .914

the GA60 is probably more of a reflection of the On Ice sv% ..which D really cant control. I suspect over a larger sample...that will also swing in Rielly favour based on Ceci being worse at giving up shots

Its not even close. Rielly much better
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Dec 21 @ 10:09 AM ET
I think you are way off .. Ceci offers no offence value...like at all
I just looked and Ceci has 0 5v5 points this season.
For someone getting big minutes..that is shocking.

Rielly has 9 (6 primary)



cf%
Rielly 53.16
Ceci 45.56

CA60
Rielly 58.73
Ceci 61.04

GA60
Rielly 3.01
Ceci 2.73

PDO
Rielly 96.62
Ceci 97.0

On Ice sv%
Rielly .902
Ceci .914

the GA60 is probably more of a reflection of the On Ice sv% ..which D really cant control. I suspect over a larger sample...that will also swing in Rielly favour based on Ceci being worse at giving up shots

Its not even close. Rielly much better

- senstroll


Ceci is complete and utter garbage.
senstroll
Location: Sens Suck, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Dec 21 @ 10:18 AM ET
Ceci is complete and utter garbage.
- prock



meh Just over rated by Spatso

when you look at those stats... Karlsson stands out...light years ahead of everyone
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Dec 21 @ 10:31 AM ET
meh Just over rated by Spatso

when you look at those stats... Karlsson stands out...light years ahead of everyone

- senstroll


Last night Phaneuf and Methot were outstanding. Sunday against the Islanders Phaneuf shut down Tavares and last night he did a really good job on Toews. Senators are playing amazing hockey showing huge speed on the attack.

Karlsson is playing the best hockey of his career. We have become so aware of his huge talent that we just take it for granted when he dominates a game.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Dec 21 @ 10:35 AM ET
I think you are way off .. Ceci offers no offence value...like at all
I just looked and Ceci has 0 5v5 points this season.
For someone getting big minutes..that is shocking.

Rielly has 9 (6 primary)



cf%
Rielly 53.16
Ceci 45.56

CA60
Rielly 58.73
Ceci 61.04

GA60
Rielly 3.01
Ceci 2.73

PDO
Rielly 96.62
Ceci 97.0

On Ice sv%
Rielly .902
Ceci .914

the GA60 is probably more of a reflection of the On Ice sv% ..which D really cant control. I suspect over a larger sample...that will also swing in Rielly favour based on Ceci being worse at giving up shots

Its not even close. Rielly much better

- senstroll


Ceci offered up strong offensive support the last few years. This year Boucher has asked him to play a more supportive defensive role in support of Phaneuf. Phaneuf is having a great year and Ceci is doing a really nice job in support. Coaches are really pleased with his performance. He has logged more minutes than Karlsson in some recent games.
senstroll
Location: Sens Suck, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Dec 21 @ 10:41 AM ET
Last night Phaneuf and Methot were outstanding. Sunday against the Islanders Phaneuf shut down Tavares and last night he did a really good job on Toews. Senators are playing amazing hockey showing huge speed on the attack.

Karlsson is playing the best hockey of his career. We have become so aware of his huge talent that we just take it for granted when he dominates a game.

- spatso


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Not_Yan
St Louis Blues
Location: it's an excellent product, easier, quicker, and even better than real mashed potatoes.
Joined: 04.19.2013

Dec 21 @ 11:31 AM ET

LEAFS
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Dec 21 @ 12:57 PM ET
LEAFS
- Not_Yan


Sorry, but Leaf fans have taken today off in order to prepare for their normal December announcement on missing the playoffs again.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Xizord : I am Eklund
Joined: 03.14.2014

Dec 21 @ 1:01 PM ET
Sorry, but Leaf fans have taken today off in order to prepare for their normal December announcement on missing the playoffs again.
- spatso


twiztedmike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2007

Dec 21 @ 1:14 PM ET
LEAFS
- Not_Yan

you are so indecisive!!
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Dec 21 @ 2:42 PM ET
Sorry, but Leaf fans have taken today off in order to prepare for their normal December announcement on missing the playoffs again.
- spatso




toronto maple leafs Playoff Chances

Did not play, playoff odds down 0.07 to 25.4%

31 points 12 12-7

http://www.sportsclubstat...anceWillMakePlayoffs.html
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Dec 21 @ 6:17 PM ET
Hockney news has moved Sens up to #7 on their power rankings
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Dec 21 @ 9:50 PM ET
Hockney news has moved Sens up to #7 on their power rankings
- spatso



apparently hockey canada and hockey usa have moved Thomas Chabot and Colin white down in their power rankings.

sens still won't make the playoffs. 7th in the conference ffs.
Pie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: taking the low road
Joined: 10.14.2006

Dec 21 @ 10:14 PM ET
apparently hockey canada and hockey usa have moved Thomas Chabot and Colin white down in their power rankings.

sens still won't make the playoffs. 7th in the conference ffs.

- prock

I think they make it. Bs win in 7 or maybe the Bs choke. Its a tough call this year... again
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Dec 21 @ 10:18 PM ET
apparently hockey canada and hockey usa have moved Thomas Chabot and Colin white down in their power rankings.

sens still won't make the playoffs. 7th in the conference ffs.

- prock


"Ducharme hasn't touched his defence pairings. He's been especially impressed by the duo of Thomas Chabot and Philippe Myers. "Both guys, the way they move and transition is really good," Ducharme said."

You have to stop making stuff up.
daeth
Nashville Predators
Location: shambles, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Dec 21 @ 10:19 PM ET
The sens are making the playoffs
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