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D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Oct 31 @ 2:37 PM ET
well you know me, I love celebrating glories of the past for teams I dont cheer for
- senstroll



you mean when you were not even alive.
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Liljegren tanked to get the Leafs
Joined: 07.14.2011

Oct 31 @ 3:50 PM ET
you mean when you were not even alive.
- D0PPELGANGER

Personally I wasn't alive when Jackie Robinson was playing or even when he was alive, but I'd like to think I'm allowed to respect his accomplishments and possibly even discuss then with other people
senstroll
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Sens Suck, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Oct 31 @ 4:39 PM ET
you mean when you were not even alive.
- D0PPELGANGER


Oh

now where is that post by you...

oh here it is

1903, 1904, 1905, 1906, 1909, 1910, 1911, 1920, 1921, 1923, 1927
- D0PPELGANGER


systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Oct 31 @ 5:18 PM ET
Oh

now where is that post by you...

oh here it is




- senstroll


D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Oct 31 @ 7:21 PM ET
Oh

now where is that post by you...

oh here it is




- senstroll

Yes you're correct, but can you say you've been to an actual Stanley Cup Finals game, that included the leafs?

I can at least say that I've been to see the Senators in a Stanley Cup finals game ............. but as some leaf fans have pointed out, that does not count because the Senators did not win the Cup in 2007.
sensarmy_11
Ottawa Senators
Location: If Ottawa traded ryan for clarkson sens would need to add a pick - Prock, NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Nov 1 @ 7:28 AM ET
good lord, how is this thread still going..........

senstroll
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Sens Suck, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Nov 1 @ 8:38 AM ET
Yes you're correct, but can you say you've been to an actual Stanley Cup Finals game, that included the leafs?

I can at least say that I've been to see the Senators in a Stanley Cup finals game ............. but as some leaf fans have pointed out, that does not count because the Senators did not win the Cup in 2007.

- D0PPELGANGER


what the (frank) are you on about...this has nothing to do with the stuff I was responding to.

daeth
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Drink full, and descend, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Nov 1 @ 8:40 AM ET
Yes you're correct, but can you say you've been to an actual Stanley Cup Finals game, that included the leafs?

I can at least say that I've been to see the Senators in a Stanley Cup finals game ............. but as some leaf fans have pointed out, that does not count because the Senators did not win the Cup in 2007.

- D0PPELGANGER

That's true, the Sens really didn't win a cup in 2007.
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Nov 1 @ 8:51 AM ET
what the (frank) are you on about...this has nothing to do with the stuff I was responding to.
- senstroll



Were you alive in 1967?
senstroll
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Sens Suck, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Nov 1 @ 9:26 AM ET
Were you alive in 1967?
- D0PPELGANGER



what the (frank) does that have to do with any of this?
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Nov 1 @ 11:39 AM ET
You seem to want to change my words in order to deflect attention away from your misrepresentation. I believe the original statement was a suggestion that the cost hockey tickets could be deducted from income taxes. Implicit in the statement was the idea that the general taxpayer was carrying the cost of "suits" attending Leaf games. What your saying now is convenient. But it has nothing to do with the original statements on this topic.

Perhaps you did not understand.

- spatso



No, no I don't, actually. I think you're referring to this post.

You must admit, it's ironic, in one breath, these fools go on about "it's all suits at the ACC", and then "look at what you pay for tickets".

Do you really think they're paying for those tickets? Nope. They're provided by companies, or written off by many attending.

And when you think about it, if a company writes off a $400 ticket, it lowers their corporate profit by that $400 (plus beer!), and hence, the taxes that company pays. Which, in the end, lowers the tax coffers, and the cost is spread across the population of Canada.

So hey Dopps, you loser, you're paying for me to go to Leaf games and drink beer. Hahahahaahahah.

And then, the Leaf fans who can’t afford tickets at the game, see some nice cheap available tickets in Ottawa, and go on road trips.

End result – Sens fans end up paying for the wealthy Leaf fans to go to games and drink beer, and yet they still owe their existence to the Leafs, and the fans who don’t pay the high prices, as if they didn’t go, that sad sack franchise would probably fold.

- prock


If you're trying to focus on the second half of the bolded sentence, in no way does that imply that they're being used as a write down in personal taxes.

If that's what you're thinking, you forget that many in this country, including myself, own "small businesses". As someone who consults, with my own personal consulting firm, I can most certainly purchases tickets, and use them as an expense in my business, when I take clients or other business contacts.

You make friends at work, that's normal (for most of us spazzo). Often you have friends that end up working in the same industry. I have a few. If I go to a game with one of them, and talk a few minutes of business, I can use those as an expense in my company. They can do the same with me.

I've been given tickets to games many times, and I can also take whoever I want. If another company gives those tickets to me as a gift, they can write that off. Either way, I get a fair number of tickets I don't pay for. I get a fair number of tickets that no single individual pays for. I'd say that's the majority of the way tickets are handed out, and that's what I was referring to in the first half of the bolded sentence.

In the end, those are all ending up on the expense side of an income statement, whether you'd like to think so or not.

The main point of the statement was that, it's a stupid comment from Dopps - "look at how much Leaf fans pay for tickets", along with the other Leaf jab so many love to toss out - "it's all sushi-eating suits at Leaf games". Put those two together, and you've got a bit of a problem with what you're saying. Because everyone here knows the "suits" are not paying for their tickets.
senstroll
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Sens Suck, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Nov 1 @ 2:41 PM ET
William Nylander named the NHL's rookie of the month.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Nov 1 @ 2:44 PM ET
William Nylander named the NHL's rookie of the month.
- senstroll



It's funny because, there is nothing spazzo or doppeldouche can say to break the enthusiasm we have on this team. And the youth they have is the envy of most teams in the league.

And then we look across at the Sens, and they really have nothing to be excited about, or look forward to either.

And they damn well know it.
senstroll
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Sens Suck, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Nov 1 @ 2:47 PM ET
It's funny because, there is nothing spazzo or doppeldouche can say to break the enthusiasm we have on this team. And the youth they have is the envy of most teams in the league.

And then we look across at the Sens, and they really have nothing to be excited about, or look forward to either.

And they damn well know it.

- prock


I expect Dopps to ask whats wrong with Matthews and why didnt he win
daeth
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Drink full, and descend, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Nov 1 @ 3:21 PM ET
whatever guys, i'm excited about the sens.

i'm excited.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Nov 1 @ 3:31 PM ET
whatever guys, i'm excited about the sens.

i'm excited.

- daeth



I'm excited they're in our division?
daeth
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Drink full, and descend, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Nov 1 @ 3:33 PM ET
I'm excited they're in our division?
- prock

It is very exciting.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: GMTM on Eichel: "He certainly won't get his pee pee slapped by me for being a little more outspoken., ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Nov 1 @ 3:38 PM ET
William Nylander named the NHL's rookie of the month.
- senstroll



Can we ask why no one is saying laine won it? I'm not saying he should have, just wondering why no one is talking about why he didn't....
daeth
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Drink full, and descend, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Nov 1 @ 3:40 PM ET
Can we ask why no one is saying laine won it? I'm not saying he should have, just wondering why no one is talking about why he didn't....
- burn

He won my heart, that's all that matters anyway.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: GMTM on Eichel: "He certainly won't get his pee pee slapped by me for being a little more outspoken., ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Nov 1 @ 3:44 PM ET
He won my heart, that's all that matters anyway.
- daeth



I would have picked nylander.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: If they sign Shattenkirk at 8 years for $65m,...you guys are going to look somewhat silly.spatso
Joined: 03.14.2014

Nov 1 @ 4:03 PM ET
Can we ask why no one is saying laine won it? I'm not saying he should have, just wondering why no one is talking about why he didn't....
- burn


When laine wins the Calder you'll be taking about it.

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