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systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Sep 7 @ 12:48 PM ET
I think your evaluation of the Leafs, at least for this year, is perfectly correct.
- spatso


Yup. Sens too.
senstroll
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Sens Suck, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Sep 7 @ 12:52 PM ET
Nothing really news ,our prospect depth had been depleted due to most graduating,busting or being moved out .Middle of the road with some real good potental in the top end of the pool .With some interesting project types whom may pay off or may not.One thing is for certain i would expect our fam team to be far better this season than last .

The leafs being first isnt a surprise either,they do have a nice collection of talent in all areas .But at forward it just seems they almost have too much ,thinking there may be swap down the line to deeper their pool of defenders

- top shelf 15



I dont think thats possible
top shelf 15
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 11.23.2008

Sep 7 @ 12:59 PM ET
I dont think thats possible
- senstroll
I think they probably have 3 potential first liners as of right now ,Nylander,Mathews,Marner.With some very good second liners in Kadri,Bozak and JVR .I think they may make a play for a guy like Fowler ,with some of the lessor known bits ,just to help out some decet kids they already have in Reilly and Gard
senstroll
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Sens Suck, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Sep 7 @ 1:25 PM ET
I think they probably have 3 potential first liners as of right now ,Nylander,Mathews,Marner.With some very good second liners in Kadri,Bozak and JVR .I think they may make a play for a guy like Fowler ,with some of the lessor known bits ,just to help out some decet kids they already have in Reilly and Gard
- top shelf 15


no thanks

senstroll
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Sens Suck, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Sep 7 @ 3:18 PM ET
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Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: he's 35, time to be fart the messenger boy.
Joined: 06.30.2006

Sep 7 @ 3:31 PM ET

- senstroll


Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Sep 7 @ 6:41 PM ET

- Aetherial

systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Sep 7 @ 9:49 PM ET

- senstroll


burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: GMTM on Eichel: "He certainly won't get his pee pee slapped by me for being a little more outspoken., ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Sep 7 @ 9:53 PM ET

- systemtool




Banners!!!!
senstroll
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Sens Suck, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Sep 8 @ 8:36 AM ET
http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/ranking-nhl-team-prospect-pipeline/story?id=41724093
- senstroll



Ottawa Ranked last out of all Canadian Teams
top shelf 15
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 11.23.2008

Sep 8 @ 1:31 PM ET
Ottawa Ranked last out of all Canadian Teams
- senstroll
Was it written in Toronto or Montreal ? Toronto easily has better prospects,Montreal......well not so much
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Sep 8 @ 1:36 PM ET
Was it written in Toronto or Montreal ? Toronto easily has better prospects,Montreal......well not so much

- top shelf 15



I would say they are better. Maybe not by a wide margin, but better nonetheless. Sergachev and Scherbak may very well be the two best prospects from either team. And Zuchale is the best goalie prospect.
top shelf 15
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 11.23.2008

Sep 8 @ 1:58 PM ET
I would say they are better. Maybe not by a wide margin, but better nonetheless. Sergachev and Scherbak may very well be the two best prospects from either team. And Zuchale is the best goalie prospect.
- prock
Meh, your opinion.I ll take a pool with White,Chabot and Brown over one that only has 2 solid looking prospects
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Sep 8 @ 2:01 PM ET
Meh, your opinion.I ll take a pool with White,Chabot and Brown over one that only has 2 solid looking prospects

- top shelf 15


They do have more decent prospects. Neither team has any spectacular prospects. But the Habs may have the two best between the two teams.
top shelf 15
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 11.23.2008

Sep 8 @ 2:04 PM ET
They do have more decent prospects. Neither team has any spectacular prospects. But the Habs may have the two best between the two teams.
- prock
According to whom ??you the french or Toronto media??The Sens get no positive press come on. We are sandwiched between two of the nhl,s biggest sources of hot air
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Sep 8 @ 3:02 PM ET
According to whom ??you the french or Toronto media??The Sens get no positive press come on. We are sandwiched between two of the nhl,s biggest sources of hot air

- top shelf 15

er

Yes, this is my opinion. I mean, it's obvious neither of them have anything better than an average group of prospects, that much can't really be argued. It's my opinion the Habs are maybe a little better. I wouldn't argue with someone saying the Sens are better. It could go either way.

The Sens don't get positive press because there isn't really anything positive to report right now. or not very much, for quite some time, as an organization, to be honest. They've been spinning wheels for a LONG LONG time.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Sep 8 @ 7:16 PM ET
er

Yes, this is my opinion. I mean, it's obvious neither of them have anything better than an average group of prospects, that much can't really be argued. It's my opinion the Habs are maybe a little better. I wouldn't argue with someone saying the Sens are better. It could go either way.

The Sens don't get positive press because there isn't really anything positive to report right now. or not very much, for quite some time, as an organization, to be honest. They've been spinning wheels for a LONG LONG time.

- prock

Bingo. Same with the Leafs. The media poops on them a lot, because there's a lot of ammunition. And just like with the Sens, when there is something positive( like their prospect pool) the media pumps that, too.
With the Sens, the media is all over the few positives. You've got a very good dman in Karlsson, so the media hypes him up to the point they give him a Norris, and then they build the hype on that.

Hearing some of the bozos on HNIC lose their poop when he does something basic like banking the puck off the boards to no one in particular is priceless.
Pie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: taking the low road
Joined: 10.14.2006

Sep 8 @ 9:49 PM ET
Bingo. Same with the Leafs. The media poops on them a lot, because there's a lot of ammunition. And just like with the Sens, when there is something positive( like their prospect pool) the media pumps that, too.
With the Sens, the media is all over the few positives. You've got a very good dman in Karlsson, so the media hypes him up to the point they give him a Norris, and then they build the hype on that.

Hearing some of the bozos on HNIC lose their poop when he does something basic like banking the puck off the boards to no one in particular is priceless.

- Feeling Glucky?

Get ready for it. Happened with Crosby, McDavid etc and will happen with Matthews...no doubt that will be different.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Sep 8 @ 9:56 PM ET
Get ready for it. Happened with Crosby, McDavid etc and will happen with Matthews...no doubt that will be different.
- Pie



if we can someday mention Matthews in the convo with those two, i dont care what anyone says, i'm happy.
Pie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: taking the low road
Joined: 10.14.2006

Sep 8 @ 9:59 PM ET
if we can someday mention Matthews in the convo with those two, i dont care what anyone says, i'm happy.
- prock

It could happen, but the point was more the ballwashing hype. Its going to happen regardless of early results
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Sep 8 @ 11:53 PM ET
It could happen, but the point was more the ballwashing hype. Its going to happen regardless of early results
- Pie



I'm sure it will. It happens with every player. I'm a firm believer that no team gets better or worst treatment, by league, officiating, or media, just more or less of it.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Sep 9 @ 5:15 AM ET
I'm sure it will. It happens with every player. I'm a firm believer that no team gets better or worst treatment, by league, officiating, or media, just more or less of it.
- prock


That is a very fine distinction. Probably correct. But, surely, you agree that the volume of noise influences how each person will experience the sound.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Sep 9 @ 5:30 AM ET
I think Karlsson wins the Norris and is a finalist for the Hart.

I believe Phaneuf will get a great deal of credit for Karlsson being able to bring his game to an even higher level.

Obviously, I could be wrong. But, I have never believed the Senators adequately shaped this team around Karlsson. I have no doubt that the late and off-season moves were all about Karlsson.

prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Sep 9 @ 7:43 AM ET
I think Karlsson wins the Norris and is a finalist for the Hart.

I believe Phaneuf will get a great deal of credit for Karlsson being able to bring his game to an even higher level.

Obviously, I could be wrong. But, I have never believed the Senators adequately shaped this team around Karlsson. I have no doubt that the late and off-season moves were all about Karlsson.

- spatso



pretty sure you claimed this last year.

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