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Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: tenav for drouin. lol @ canucks
Joined: 03.14.2014

Aug 17 @ 2:01 PM ET
How much time do you think they will play??8 to 10 mins a game at 5 on 5??Again scoring isnt Ottawa,s issue ,its main two problem areas were puck possession,and player quality in the top 4 .Both are related ,and fed into the trainwreck of a defensive season we had .Having the puck more is what the game is all about ,getting back Both Turris and Macarther,two of Ottawa,s better guys at possesion. Along with upgrading from a terrible possession guy in Zibby to a much more solid one in Brassard.Add,s in more ways than just production .

Kelley.Pyatt and in some ways Phanuef ,help us more when we dont have the puck

- top shelf 15


you're in for a big disappointment
top shelf 15
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 11.23.2008

Aug 17 @ 2:11 PM ET
you're in for a big disappointment
- Tumbleweed
Meh, coming from a leaf fan you must be an expert on the subject.Lol


Nothing i have said is outlandish in any regard ,do i think Ottawa can be a much better team thus one that makes the playoffs .Yes.....Have i said we are a favorite for the cup ...hell no .

Ottawa still needs to add another elite level player,to be close to this.And which is why we continue to keep drafting to try and find one .We are just like the 29 other team,s that didnt win the cup.Which is trying to find the right mix for silver
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: tenav for drouin. lol @ canucks
Joined: 03.14.2014

Aug 17 @ 2:21 PM ET
Meh, coming from a leaf fan you must be an expert on the subject.Lol


Nothing i have said is outlandish in any regard ,do i think Ottawa can be a much better team thus one that makes the playoffs .Yes.....Have i said we are a favorite for the cup ...hell no .

Ottawa still needs to add another elite level player,to be close to this.And which is why we continue to keep drafting to try and find one .We are just like the 29 other team,s that didnt win the cup.Which is trying to find the right mix for silver

- top shelf 15



Methot, Kelly, Neil, Phaneuf and Ryan are clearly already declining.

Anderson (35) and macurther are likely to decline.

Most of those guys won't even be healthy for an entire season.

Otttawa bought high on Brassard who is effectively coming off his peak offensive years; and sold low on zib who is just entering his prime. It’s all downhill for brassard, and not in any way an upgrade.

Pyatt is not even an nhl level player.

But sure, you just keeping hanging on to the dream that the only reason you can’t win is you can't seem to acquire that one elite player to put you over the top.


#SENSeless
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: GMTM on Eichel: "He certainly won't get his pee pee slapped by me for being a little more outspoken., ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Aug 17 @ 2:22 PM ET
What fight,Ottawa did improve .Your the one being delusional if you cant see that
- top shelf 15



How? New goalies? Add talent to the blueline? They signed a broken down 4th liner and traded a player that is just as good and younger (and added picks).

In what area did they improve?
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: GMTM on Eichel: "He certainly won't get his pee pee slapped by me for being a little more outspoken., ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Aug 17 @ 2:23 PM ET
How is it the same roster ??
- top shelf 15




UMmmm
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: GMTM on Eichel: "He certainly won't get his pee pee slapped by me for being a little more outspoken., ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Aug 17 @ 2:25 PM ET
Meh, two of our teams better possession T6 guy,s where lost for half the season,added an upgrade in this very same manner with Brassard over Zibby ,and its not at all unlikely to see an uptick in defensive zone stats .As well as special teams .Health like it is for every other team ,is the most important variable
- top shelf 15



So the big roster shake up to improve the team is praying for health?


But everyone else is delusional.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: GMTM on Eichel: "He certainly won't get his pee pee slapped by me for being a little more outspoken., ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Aug 17 @ 2:26 PM ET
Him and Kelley do one thing well,which is PK .We get to middle of the pack and we easily shave 15 or so goals off our G/A .Only 15 more,and Ottawa is a middle of the pack defensive team,which combined with a top 10 offense puts us solidly in the playoffs

- top shelf 15



But were delusional.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: GMTM on Eichel: "He certainly won't get his pee pee slapped by me for being a little more outspoken., ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Aug 17 @ 2:28 PM ET
You are entirely correct. This team has been entirely reshaped around Karlsson. Everything done starting with the Phaneuf deal, bringing in Guy Boucher and trading for Brassard is all about winning behind Karlsson's attacking game. I am more upbeat about this season than I have been for a few years.

I think they need one more burner up front and Duschene would be an outstanding addition.

- spatso



And how do you do that?
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: GMTM on Eichel: "He certainly won't get his pee pee slapped by me for being a little more outspoken., ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Aug 17 @ 2:30 PM ET
Meh, coming from a leaf fan you must be an expert on the subject.Lol


Nothing i have said is outlandish in any regard ,do i think Ottawa can be a much better team thus one that makes the playoffs .Yes.....Have i said we are a favorite for the cup ...hell no .

Ottawa still needs to add another elite level player,to be close to this.And which is why we continue to keep drafting to try and find one .We are just like the 29 other team,s that didnt win the cup.Which is trying to find the right mix for silver

- top shelf 15



Well pyatt when he sign was a depth signing, might not even be in the nhl..... Now you have him good for 15ga cutdown?

You don't think that is a tad outlandish?
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: GMTM on Eichel: "He certainly won't get his pee pee slapped by me for being a little more outspoken., ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Aug 17 @ 2:33 PM ET
Methot, Kelly, Neil, Phaneuf and Ryan are clearly already declining.

Anderson (35) and macurther are likely to decline.

Most of those guys won't even be healthy for an entire season.

Otttawa bought high on Brassard who is effectively coming off his peak offensive years; and sold low on zib who is just entering his prime. It’s all downhill for brassard, and not in any way an upgrade.

Pyatt is not even an nhl level player.

But sure, you just keeping hanging on to the dream that the only reason you can’t win is you can't seem to acquire that one elite player to put you over the top.


#SENSeless

- Tumbleweed



It's really funny to watch them talk about how leaf fans talk trash and are delusional and then they post this stuff and they don't see the irony.

Fla was better than them last year. They improved their d and their goaltending, and improved their bottom forward depth..... But somehow the sens who missed the playoffs last year are better without making any changes.


Gunslinger
Montreal Canadiens
Location: ID
Joined: 10.15.2011

Aug 17 @ 4:23 PM ET
Meh, two of our teams better possession T6 guy,s where lost for half the season,added an upgrade in this very same manner with Brassard over Zibby ,and its not at all unlikely to see an uptick in defensive zone stats .As well as special teams .Health like it is for every other team ,is the most important variable
- top shelf 15


Wow the injury card. The only team to have them.
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Aug 17 @ 5:08 PM ET
Agreed. Turris and brassard = malkin and crosby
- Tumbleweed



No, you have it wrong ......... It's Marner and Nylander = Toews and Kane
Gunslinger
Montreal Canadiens
Location: ID
Joined: 10.15.2011

Aug 17 @ 6:52 PM ET
No, you have it wrong ......... It's Marner and Nylander = Toews and Kane
- D0PPELGANGER


You said it.

But you guys have Giroux and Toews so that's okay.

So you think that highly of Nylander and Marner? Don't worry. Most Sens fans do.
Gunslinger
Montreal Canadiens
Location: ID
Joined: 10.15.2011

Aug 17 @ 7:28 PM ET
Marner and Nylander = Toews and Kane
- D0PPELGANGER


Gunslinger
Montreal Canadiens
Location: ID
Joined: 10.15.2011

Aug 17 @ 7:33 PM ET
UMmmm
- burn

burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: GMTM on Eichel: "He certainly won't get his pee pee slapped by me for being a little more outspoken., ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Aug 17 @ 7:43 PM ET

- Gunslinger



Injuries!
Gunslinger
Montreal Canadiens
Location: ID
Joined: 10.15.2011

Aug 17 @ 7:45 PM ET
Injuries!
- burn


Watch out for the Lazar beam bro.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: tenav for drouin. lol @ canucks
Joined: 03.14.2014

Aug 17 @ 8:55 PM ET
Watch out for the Lazar beam bro.
- Gunslinger


Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Aug 18 @ 11:58 AM ET
You are entirely correct. This team has been entirely reshaped around Karlsson. Everything done starting with the Phaneuf deal, bringing in Guy Boucher and trading for Brassard is all about winning behind Karlsson's attacking game. I am more upbeat about this season than I have been for a few years.

I think they need one more burner up front and Duschene would be an outstanding addition.

- spatso

how is that even possible?
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: GMTM on Eichel: "He certainly won't get his pee pee slapped by me for being a little more outspoken., ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Aug 18 @ 11:59 AM ET
how is that even possible?
- Feeling Glucky?



He enjoys status quo...
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Aug 18 @ 1:17 PM ET
He enjoys status quo...
- burn

I was refering specifically to the "more" part.

He's (frank)ing thrilled about that team every year, and about every pagiroux they sign.

Where is the room to grow from that?
top shelf 15
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 11.23.2008

Aug 18 @ 1:53 PM ET
I was refering specifically to the "more" part.

He's (frank)ing thrilled about that team every year, and about every pagiroux they sign.

Where is the room to grow from that?

- Feeling Glucky?
And your not about the leafs ...come on dude its called being a fan
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Aug 18 @ 2:22 PM ET
And your not about the leafs ...come on dude its called being a fan
- top shelf 15

I was excited to see some of the young guys get ice time late in the season this last year, that's about it. Certainly nothing on spasto's level, for the last decade.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Aug 18 @ 7:10 PM ET
You are entirely correct. This team has been entirely reshaped around Karlsson. Everything done starting with the Phaneuf deal, bringing in Guy Boucher and trading for Brassard is all about winning behind Karlsson's attacking game. I am more upbeat about this season than I have been for a few years.

I think they need one more burner up front and Duschene would be an outstanding addition.

- spatso


I am so glad to hear all his. I'll be here when things go south.

Joined: 12.31.1969

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