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prock
Nashville Predators
Location: Nice to know how comfortable t, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Jun 7 @ 8:43 PM ET
Ottawa is missing one more piece in a top 6 forward. i think the D is very strong with the addition of Phaneuf on the second pairing. with teams under huge cap pressures there will be very good top 6 players available. 0pportunity may be knocking.
- spatso



missing one piece eh? Before being a cup contender????

I hate to break it to you, but the Sens are complete and utter garbage.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Jun 7 @ 8:44 PM ET
missing one piece eh? Before being a cup contender????

I hate to break it to you, but the Sens are complete and utter garbage.

- prock


systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Jun 7 @ 8:45 PM ET
I'm sorry I guess I shouldn't have told you that the Sens have at least 5 prospects with more potential and upside than Marner and Matthews .
- spatso


I bet.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jun 7 @ 8:46 PM ET
I hear he was the missing link.
- prock


He may very well be a key piece. Ceci played really well from the first day Phaneuf arrived. Remember he is going to be asked to log #4 minutes compared to the #1 role he played with the Leafs. We will see but the limited year end play was pretty positive.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Jun 7 @ 8:48 PM ET
He may very well be a key piece. Ceci played really well from the first day Phaneuf arrived. Remember he is going to be asked to log #4 minutes compared to the #1 role he played with the Leafs. We will see but the limited year end play was pretty positive.
- spatso



Can't imagine them losing a game all year.
prock
Nashville Predators
Location: Nice to know how comfortable t, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Jun 7 @ 8:55 PM ET
Earlier today Spatso was saying that Hammond is as good as Price and that losing Turris was as devastating as Habs losing price this season.
- systemtool


Turris is bottom five in the league in terms of those playing first line centre right now.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Jun 7 @ 8:57 PM ET
Turris is bottom five in the league in terms of those playing first line centre right now.
- prock



Sens probably have the worst center depth in the league going into next year. Recipe for disaster.
prock
Nashville Predators
Location: Nice to know how comfortable t, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Jun 7 @ 8:58 PM ET
He may very well be a key piece. Ceci played really well from the first day Phaneuf arrived. Remember he is going to be asked to log #4 minutes compared to the #1 role he played with the Leafs. We will see but the limited year end play was pretty positive.
- spatso



and yet, earlier, I was told, by a Sens fan, that Methot can't be protected because they acquired Phaneuf, and he'll do nicely as their #2. You guys can't get it straight.

either way, Ceci and Phaneuf together still managed bottom quartile numbers in terms of possession, if that's your thing.
prock
Nashville Predators
Location: Nice to know how comfortable t, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Jun 7 @ 8:58 PM ET
Sens probably have the worst center depth in the league going into next year. Recipe for disaster.
- systemtool



it's pretty close. Nashville, New Jersey, and Arizona, are the other three contenders.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Jun 7 @ 8:59 PM ET
He may very well be a key piece. Ceci played really well from the first day Phaneuf arrived. Remember he is going to be asked to log #4 minutes compared to the #1 role he played with the Leafs. We will see but the limited year end play was pretty positive.
- spatso



Ah yes. The 8-11 record at the end of the year was so inspiring.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jun 7 @ 9:00 PM ET
Turris is bottom five in the league in terms of those playing first line centre right now.
- prock


Turris had a great start to the season. He suffered a high ankle sprain and tried to continue playing on essentially one leg. Great hope he returns to normal form in new season.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Jun 7 @ 9:00 PM ET
it's pretty close. Nashville, New Jersey, and Arizona, are the other three contenders.
- prock


Nashville isn't bad. They have Johansen at least. Nobody on the Sens can compare.
prock
Nashville Predators
Location: Nice to know how comfortable t, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Jun 7 @ 9:03 PM ET
Nashville isn't bad. They have Johansen at least. Nobody on the Sens can compare.
- systemtool



true. sens bottom three then.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Jun 7 @ 9:03 PM ET
true. sens bottom three then.
- prock


Yup. Very unimpressive.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jun 7 @ 9:07 PM ET
Nashville isn't bad. They have Johansen at least. Nobody on the Sens can compare.
- systemtool


Ah yes, the wonder of summer swagger. Last place team pretending that they will jump over Edmonton and their first year of rebuild they will make a difference. Actually kind of sweet if you think about it.
prock
Nashville Predators
Location: Nice to know how comfortable t, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Jun 7 @ 9:12 PM ET
Ah yes, the wonder of summer swagger. Last place team pretending that they will jump over Edmonton and their first year of rebuild they will make a difference. Actually kind of sweet if you think about it.
- spatso


yeah, it's tough to match the swagger of a team boasting JP Pagiroux, the first line centre Toews strives to be, and a so-called star defenseman that somehow gives up more goals than any other team in the league when he's on the ice.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Jun 7 @ 9:12 PM ET
Ah yes, the wonder of summer swagger. Last place team pretending that they will jump over Edmonton and their first year of rebuild they will make a difference. Actually kind of sweet if you think about it.
- spatso


Who said that?

We're not even talking about the Leafs. Just how poop the Sens are. Settle your tits. Your team is as bad were making them out to be. Don't be so defensive. It's not our fault your big Phaneuf trade was junk. This also isn't the first year of the rebuild but cool story. Maybe you guys should try the rebuild thing too. Cause trying to win now sure isn't working for the Sens
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Jun 7 @ 9:13 PM ET
yeah, it's tough to match the swagger of a team boasting JP Pagiroux, the first line centre Toews strives to be, and a so-called star defenseman that somehow gives up more goals than any other team in the league when he's on the ice.
- prock


spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jun 7 @ 9:16 PM ET
Who said that?

We're not even talking about the Leafs. Just how poop the Sens are. Settle your tits. Your team is as bad were making them out to be. Don't be so defensive. It's not our fault your big Phaneuf trade was junk. This also isn't the first year of the rebuild but cool story. Maybe you guys should try the rebuild thing too. Cause trying to win now sure isn't working for the Sens

- systemtool


Guess where this comes from:

"The Ottawa Senators may not have any big names playing in the limelight of the OHL, but that doesn’t mean their system is in any trouble. Don’t let the team’s lack of Ontario-based prospects or AHL success fool you – much of the next big wave of talent will come from the NCAA and Sweden."


prock
Nashville Predators
Location: Nice to know how comfortable t, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Jun 7 @ 9:37 PM ET
Guess where this comes from:

"The Ottawa Senators may not have any big names playing in the limelight of the OHL, but that doesn’t mean their system is in any trouble. Don’t let the team’s lack of Ontario-based prospects or AHL success fool you – much of the next big wave of talent will come from the NCAA and Sweden."

- spatso



No one cares where it comes from.

Can you find any publications that don't call the Sens a bottom 10 organization in terms of prospects right now?
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jun 7 @ 9:44 PM ET
No one cares where it comes from.

Can you find any publications that don't call the Sens a bottom 10 organization in terms of prospects right now?

- prock


The report comes from Hockey Futures. They are preparing for the next player and team prospect evaluations. Sens have some great young pieces on the way.
prock
Nashville Predators
Location: Nice to know how comfortable t, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Jun 7 @ 9:46 PM ET
The report comes from Hockey Futures. They are preparing for the next player and team prospect evaluations. Sens have some great young pieces on the way.
- spatso

so they must consider them a top 10 team?
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jun 7 @ 9:52 PM ET
so they must consider them a top 10 team?
- prock


we don't know. they publish their narratives first and then they do their rankings later.

I was surprised that they have Chabot ranked as an 8.0 (same as Colin White) but in their revised narrative they have moved Englund (Captain of Team Sweden) ahead of Chabot. Chabot as you probably know was Canada's best Dman at the world juniors.
prock
Nashville Predators
Location: Nice to know how comfortable t, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Jun 7 @ 10:03 PM ET
we don't know. they publish their narratives first and then they do their rankings later.

I was surprised that they have Chabot ranked as an 8.0 (same as Colin White) but in their revised narrative they have moved Englund (Captain of Team Sweden) ahead of Chabot. Chabot as you probably know was Canada's best Dman at the world juniors.

- spatso



I'm sure the same people who think this are the ones that thought Ceci took over the top dman spot at the world championships.

Until they realized they were just giving their top guys a rest, while the plugs got some ice against France and Hungary.

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