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D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Feb 22 @ 12:08 PM ET
last 2 trades were good examples of them derailing the plans.
- Tumbleweed



UFA day is not until July first ............. so lets wait and see.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Feb 22 @ 7:07 PM ET

- D0PPELGANGER

Alligators are clearly superior to chickens.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Feb 22 @ 7:08 PM ET
UFA day is not until July first ............. so lets wait and see.
- D0PPELGANGER

So adding free assets is a sign they'd be derailing their plans?
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Feb 22 @ 9:51 PM ET
UFA day is not until July first ............. so lets wait and see.
- D0PPELGANGER


Wishful thinking on your part. It's getting ridiculous the amount of picks they have.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Feb 22 @ 9:53 PM ET
Assuming I "Hate" the leafs, is your first mistake. I find them an endless source of entertainment, in how they've operated the franchise over the past number of decades.

The second is thinking I really care enough about their re-build, to comment on it. I openly admit that I don't follow them closely enough to accurately comment on their current rebuild, to add to the more informed (on the re-build) leaf fans who do so.

Why you want my stamp of approval is beyond me, but if you want it, here it is.

From the surface it looks so far so good, but the most highly talked about prospects all seem to be cut from the same cloth, and perhaps because I don't know about any others, and don't really have any interest into drilling down further.

But just like a lot of leaf fans, just sitting back to see what management does to derail the current plan...........just like all other leaf GMs have done in the past.............trying to "fast track" the re-build.

- D0PPELGANGER


But you cared so passionately about it when they weren't rebuilding like you said they should.
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Feb 23 @ 8:39 AM ET
So adding free assets is a sign they'd be derailing their plans?
- Feeling Glucky?



So by "Free" do you mean zero Cap Hit?

Clarkson was a "Free asset", how did that work out?
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Feb 23 @ 8:41 AM ET
But you cared so passionately about it when they weren't rebuilding like you said they should.
- RogerRoeper




I think that you're referring to Spatso, who was a leaf fan, and then claims he gave them up, and became an ex-leaf fan.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Feb 23 @ 12:01 PM ET
So by "Free" do you mean zero Cap Hit?

Clarkson was a "Free asset", how did that work out?

- D0PPELGANGER


It didn't work out. But it also didn't derail anything.

I mean "free asset" as in, not trading picks and prospects for the benefit of adding 7M+ in cap hit.
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Feb 23 @ 3:18 PM ET
It didn't work out. But it also didn't derail anything.

I mean "free asset" as in, not trading picks and prospects for the benefit of adding 7M+ in cap hit.

- Feeling Glucky?



Stamkos will cost more than 9M
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Feb 23 @ 3:24 PM ET
Stamkos will cost more than 9M
- D0PPELGANGER

Yes.


And how is adding a top flight #1C without giving up assets a problem?
Pie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: taking the low road
Joined: 10.14.2006

Feb 23 @ 6:17 PM ET
Yes.


And how is adding a top flight #1C without giving up assets a problem?

- Feeling Glucky?

You got him on the ropes now.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Feb 23 @ 6:44 PM ET
You got him on the ropes now.
- Pie

I'm sure in the face of logic he'll admit his mistakes.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: everyday i see my dream
Joined: 03.14.2014

Feb 23 @ 7:05 PM ET
So by "Free" do you mean zero Cap Hit?

Clarkson was a "Free asset", how did that work out?

- D0PPELGANGER




you just compared clarkson to stamkos


Cape Breton Bruins
Boston Bruins
Location: 771 pages of no one caring, AB
Joined: 11.26.2008

Feb 23 @ 8:38 PM ET


you just compared clarkson to stamkos



- Tumbleweed

He's finished.

Someone post a Mortal Kombat fatality because Dopes is DONNNNNNNNNNNNNE!!!
golfingsince
Location: The losers tonight are the people.-QP
Joined: 11.30.2011

Feb 23 @ 8:43 PM ET
I haven't heard anyone compare Clarkson to Stamkos since shortly after the Leafs signed him.
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Feb 24 @ 7:46 AM ET
I haven't heard anyone compare Clarkson to Stamkos since shortly after the Leafs signed him.
- golfingsince

daeth
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Drink full, and descend, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Feb 24 @ 8:14 AM ET
Sens really want 9th
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Feb 24 @ 9:52 AM ET
Yes.


And how is adding a top flight #1C without giving up assets a problem?

- Feeling Glucky?



Well, he would take up a lot of cap space, and that could lead to problems down the road after all these future NHL superstars that the leafs have drafted exit their ELCs.


Steven Stamkos has been playing much less than a "top flight #1C" this season, on a playoff bound team........... is this what the leafs really need at this point in their 5(?) year re-build??? Would not waiting for Tavares in a couple of years to become an UFA be a little more logical?


Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: everyday i see my dream
Joined: 03.14.2014

Feb 24 @ 10:21 AM ET
Well, he would take up a lot of cap space, and that could lead to problems down the road after all these future NHL superstars that the leafs have drafted exit their ELCs.


Steven Stamkos has been playing much less than a "top flight #1C" this season, on a playoff bound team........... is this what the leafs really need at this point in their 5(?) year re-build??? Would not waiting for Tavares in a couple of years to become an UFA be a little more logical?

- D0PPELGANGER


I agree. Lots of good reasons to wait for Tavares:

- Instead of signing a 26 year-old stamkos until he is 33, we should sign a 28 year-old Tavares to a higher cap hit until he is 35.

- if Stamkos is available to sign, I think it's a smart thinking to pass on him for the 1% chance that Tavares makes it to FA.

- Marner/Nylander will be on their ELC's for 3-4 years of Stamkos' contract, offsetting Stamkos' cap hit. Marner/Nylander only have 1-2 years of ELC reaming over the duration of a Tavares contract.

-Rielly will likely be looking for a new contract just as Stamkos' contract comes off the books. Probably easier to sign Rielly to a big fat new contract with Tavares' big fat contract on the books vs. no cap hit from Stamkos.


D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Feb 24 @ 10:30 AM ET
I agree. Lots of good reasons to wait for Tavares:

- Instead of signing a 26 year-old stamkos until he is 33, we should sign a 28 year-old Tavares to higher cap hit until he is 35.

- if Stamkos is available to sign, I think it's a smart thinking to pass on him for the 1% chance that Tavares makes it to FA.

- Marner/Nylander will be on their ELC's for 3-4 years of Stamkos' contract, offsetting Stamkos' cap hit. Marner/Nylander only have 1-2 years of ELC reaming over the duration of a Tavares contract.

-Rielly will likely be looking for a new contract just as Stamkos' contract comes off the books. Probably easier to sign Rielly to a big fat new contract with Tavares' big fat contract on the books vs. no cap hit from Stamkos.



- Tumbleweed




So what it the time line for the Cup Parade?
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: everyday i see my dream
Joined: 03.14.2014

Feb 24 @ 10:39 AM ET
So what it the time line for the Cup Parade?
- D0PPELGANGER


never if management makes stupid decisions and passes on signing elite talent.

senstroll
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Sens Suck, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Feb 25 @ 9:10 AM ET
Sens really want 9th
- daeth


They are not going to go down without a fight for that pick
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Feb 25 @ 9:36 AM ET
They are not going to go down without a fight for that pick
- senstroll


Senators have developed a "wining culture" in their organization, and it really contrasts with the "losing culture" that the Oilers have instilled in their organization.

Senators get behind in games, and don't give up, they continue to push to win games, and the Oilers get behind by a couple of goals late in games, and pack it in and go through the motions and simply play out the remaining time.
daeth
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Drink full, and descend, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Feb 25 @ 9:54 AM ET
Senators have developed a "wining culture" in their organization, and it really contrasts with the "losing culture" that the Oilers have instilled in their organization.

Senators get behind in games, and don't give up, they continue to push to win games, and the Oilers get behind by a couple of goals late in games, and pack it in and go through the motions and simply play out the remaining time.

- D0PPELGANGER

burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Boyle > Marleau :dopes, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Feb 25 @ 9:55 AM ET

- daeth



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