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D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Feb 11 @ 10:36 AM ET
Half will hate him and half will be all "he's decent but overpaid". Such is life.
- daeth



Last night was not a fair assessment. No practice time, new team, PK & PP systems etc.

Give him a few weeks, and then see if he's an improvement on Cowen, who has never recovered 100% from his two injuries.

The NHL is full of "decent but overpaid" players.
senstroll
Location: Sens Suck, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Feb 11 @ 12:08 PM ET
Last night was not a fair assessment. No practice time, new team, PK & PP systems etc.

Give him a few weeks, and then see if he's an improvement on Cowen, who has never recovered 100% from his two injuries.

The NHL is full of "decent but overpaid" players.

- D0PPELGANGER



http://bleacherreport.com...-trading-for-dion-phaneuf

It starts with his partner. Phaneuf typically played with Jake Gardiner this year, and the difference in his performance with and without player is breathtaking. As a duo, Gardiner and Phaneuf had a 53.2 percent Corsi rating, three points better than the team average. They were also on the ice for as many goals for as against, remarkable on a Maple Leafs team that has been badly outscored this year at evens.

Away from Gardiner this season, Phaneuf's Corsi number falls by six points and Toronto was out-scored by nearly a 3:1 margin.


wow didnt know it was that bad ... pairing him with Ceci is probably a terrible idea.

Sens might regret this much sooner than I thought
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Feb 11 @ 2:06 PM ET
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2615283-how-the-maple-leafs-hoodwinked-the-senators-into-trading-for-dion-phaneuf



wow didnt know it was that bad ... pairing him with Ceci is probably a terrible idea.

Sens might regret this much sooner than I thought

- senstroll

I've always liked Dion.... but if he turns to poop now, I won't mind.
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Feb 11 @ 2:08 PM ET
I've always liked Dion.... but if he turns to poop now, I won't mind.
- Feeling Glucky?


Now?







NOW?
golfingsince
Location: The losers tonight are the people.-QP
Joined: 11.30.2011

Feb 11 @ 2:11 PM ET
Now?







NOW?

- Pecafan Fan


Blue and white shades no longer being worn.
twiztedmike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2007

Feb 11 @ 2:39 PM ET
what you saw from Dion last night is basically what you get.
Sens fans are probably going to hate him soon.

- senstroll

not true

a rare showing. Phaneuf is a legitimate #2 and will be godlike with Karlsson

Sens destroyed the Leafs in this deal and are definitely now in a better situation
Cape Breton Bruins
Boston Bruins
Location: Crawling through the trenches with Ryan Rishaug, AB
Joined: 11.26.2008

Feb 11 @ 3:40 PM ET
Leafs 100%
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Feb 11 @ 4:55 PM ET
not true

a rare showing. Phaneuf is a legitimate #2 and will be godlike with Karlsson

Sens destroyed the Leafs in this deal and are definitely now in a better situation

- twiztedmike


I don't like your tone.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Feb 11 @ 5:33 PM ET
Blue and white shades no longer being worn.
- golfingsince

Yes, as evidenced by all my posts slamming Kessel.



I think Phaneuf is a top pairing dman. I'm just saying, I wouldn't be complaining if he started sucking. Not a fan of what the Leafs got, outside of the 2nd and cap space.
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Feb 11 @ 10:02 PM ET
Leafs
twiztedmike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2007

Feb 11 @ 10:20 PM ET
I don't like your tone.
- Pecafan Fan

Habs are even better as evidenced by standings
twiztedmike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2007

Feb 11 @ 10:20 PM ET
I don't like your tone.
- Pecafan Fan

Habs are even better as evidenced by standings
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Show me specifically what I said and how that is not consistent with what I said earlier.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Feb 11 @ 11:19 PM ET



Leafs
senstroll
Location: Sens Suck, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Feb 12 @ 8:49 AM ET
Leafs in 30th place
Really ramping up the Tank game..

Sens trying to win and still losing




D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Feb 12 @ 9:09 AM ET
Yes, as evidenced by all my posts slamming Kessel.



I think Phaneuf is a top pairing dman. I'm just saying, I wouldn't be complaining if he started sucking. Not a fan of what the Leafs got, outside of the 2nd and cap space.

- Feeling Glucky?


What about Tobias Lindberg?
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Feb 12 @ 9:19 AM ET
Leafs in 30th place
Really ramping up the Tank game..

Sens trying to win and still losing

- senstroll



Six points needed to catch and pass the bottom WC spot, and need to pass Five Teams in order to do so.

ALL five teams have between 1 and 3 games in hand on the Sens, with the Penguins sitting in the bottom WC spot having 3 games in hand.

Sens will not make the playoffs, and sit with 3.7% chance of making the playoffs, as of today. Sens have (as of today) a 7.5% of winning the lottery and the first overall pick.
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Feb 12 @ 9:20 AM ET
Six points needed to catch and pass the bottom WC spot, and need to pass Five Teams in order to do so.

ALL five teams have between 1 and 3 games in hand on the Sens, with the Penguins sitting in the bottom WC spot having 3 games in hand.

Sens will not make the playoffs, and sit with 3.7% chance of making the playoffs, as of today. Sens have (as of today) a 7.5% of winning the lottery and the first overall pick.

- D0PPELGANGER


Pretty much the same situation as Montreal.

It's not pretty.
senstroll
Location: Sens Suck, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Feb 12 @ 9:29 AM ET
Six points needed to catch and pass the bottom WC spot, and need to pass Five Teams in order to do so.

ALL five teams have between 1 and 3 games in hand on the Sens, with the Penguins sitting in the bottom WC spot having 3 games in hand.

Sens will not make the playoffs, and sit with 3.7% chance of making the playoffs, as of today. Sens have (as of today) a 7.5% of winning the lottery and the first overall pick.

- D0PPELGANGER



Ottawa currently the front runner in the Sadness race... welcome to leafs hell 2005-2013

senstroll
Location: Sens Suck, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Feb 12 @ 9:30 AM ET
Pretty much the same situation as Montreal.

It's not pretty.

- Pecafan Fan



The leafs did themselves a big favour last night... icing an AHL team and losing to Edmonton is huge
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Feb 12 @ 11:25 AM ET
What about Tobias Lindberg?
- D0PPELGANGER

He seems to think the Leafs are in a better position.
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Feb 12 @ 11:30 AM ET
He seems to think the Leafs are in a better position.
- Feeling Glucky?


His chances of making the leafs roster are probably better than making the Sens roster, as he's probably close to the top of the leafs depth chart, than he was on the Sens depth chart.


Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Feb 12 @ 11:45 AM ET
His chances of making the leafs roster are probably better than making the Sens roster, as he's probably close to the top of the leafs depth chart, than he was on the Sens depth chart.


- D0PPELGANGER

Leafs have a lot of skilled wingers... if he can use his size well he might stand a better chance of making his mark that way... but I wouldn't say he's near the top of the Leaf's depth chart... especially since they're very likely to be drafting another top-flight forward this season.
Cape Breton Bruins
Boston Bruins
Location: Crawling through the trenches with Ryan Rishaug, AB
Joined: 11.26.2008

Feb 12 @ 11:46 AM ET
Lindberg has a better future on the Leafs because the current management and coaching staff is by far superior to that of the Sens.

twiztedmike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2007

Feb 12 @ 11:54 AM ET
Lindberg has a better future on the Leafs because the current management and coaching staff is by far superior to that of the Sens.
- Cape Breton Bruins

Cape Breton Bruins
Boston Bruins
Location: Crawling through the trenches with Ryan Rishaug, AB
Joined: 11.26.2008

Feb 12 @ 11:58 AM ET

- twiztedmike

Not only will he receive world class develpment and coaching, the front office will surround him with high end young talent to grow with.

Leafs 100%
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