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Cape Breton Bruins
Boston Bruins
Location: 966 pages of no one caring, AB
Joined: 11.26.2008

Jan 8 @ 3:42 PM ET
good point but can we agree that at least Jones seems to care about winning unlike some owners (melnyk) who simply view their teams as cash-cows?
- Crimsoninja

You are correct sir. Jerry prefers to win but doesn't have the necessary skill in his current position to manufacture success.

This clown just wants money to which the citizens of Ottawa are willing to hand him hand over in the millions to see a team forever destined to spin their tires in the mud.
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jan 8 @ 3:44 PM ET
You are correct sir. Jerry prefers to win but doesn't have the necessary skill in his current position to manufacture success.

This clown just wants money to which the citizens of Ottawa are willing to hand him hand over in the millions to see a team forever destined to spin their tires in the mud.

- Cape Breton Bruins


Melnyk should just sell the team to Quebecor and then move it to quebec city.
Cape Breton Bruins
Boston Bruins
Location: 966 pages of no one caring, AB
Joined: 11.26.2008

Jan 8 @ 4:06 PM ET
Melnyk should just sell the team to Quebecor and then move it to quebec city.
- Pecafan Fan

I'm sure he will seize any opportunity to maximize his profits at the cost of willfully ignorant Sens fans.

Leafs 100%

Babcock, Shanahan, Lou.... Proven hockey minds or basically a second rate Bond villain owner. I know who I'd prefer and that's the Leafs and their position.
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jan 8 @ 4:13 PM ET
I'm sure he will seize any opportunity to maximize his profits at the cost of willfully ignorant Sens fans.

Leafs 100%

Babcock, Shanahan, Lou.... Proven hockey minds or basically a second rate Bond villain owner. I know who I'd prefer and that's the Leafs and their position.

- Cape Breton Bruins


All very good points.
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jan 8 @ 4:26 PM ET
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jan 8 @ 4:28 PM ET
TMLtheCat29
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.10.2013

Jan 8 @ 9:41 PM ET
What the (frank) is wrong with Doppelganger and Senstroll?
daeth
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: when it's a 3 taco-bell town, maybe they'll be ready, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Jan 8 @ 9:50 PM ET
All very good points.
- Pecafan Fan

100%
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jan 8 @ 10:47 PM ET
100%
- daeth

Hard to argue with cold hard facts.

Leafs. Not even close..
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Jan 9 @ 10:14 AM ET
I'm not sure if it's been brought up yet, but both teams fucking stink.

There, I said it.

- Pecafan Fan



You did earlier, and both teams will have to play well over .500 to make the playoffs.
senstroll
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Sens Suck, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jan 11 @ 9:35 AM ET
What the (frank) is wrong with Doppelganger and Senstroll?
- TMLtheCat29


this guy is cool
senstroll
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Sens Suck, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jan 11 @ 9:36 AM ET
7th Ottawa Senators Save% 0.913 Shoot% 0.098 = PDO 1.011
17th toronto maple leafs Save%0.917 Shoot% 0.083 = PDO 0.999

- D0PPELGANGER


dont waste time with those stupid stats
any updates in Dave Camerons Point %?


Cape Breton Bruins
Boston Bruins
Location: 966 pages of no one caring, AB
Joined: 11.26.2008

Jan 11 @ 10:48 AM ET
Perennial superstar JVR out 6 to 8 weeks further solidifying the Leafs chances at a lottery pick and yet another blue chip prospect in the pipeline.

Leafs 100%
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Jan 11 @ 10:55 AM ET
dont waste time with those stupid stats
any updates in Dave Camerons Point %?

- senstroll



you're the one who claimed he was the worst coach in the NHL, while your mighty stats said otherwise. '

So what is it? Is he the worse coach in the NHL... or is he ranked 10th among active NHL coaches in P%?
senstroll
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Sens Suck, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jan 11 @ 11:00 AM ET
you're the one who claimed he was the worst coach in the NHL, while your mighty stats said otherwise. '

So what is it? Is he the worse coach in the NHL... or is he ranked 10th among active NHL coaches in P%?

- D0PPELGANGER


I said one of the worst.

And yes i still think he is.
Cape Breton Bruins
Boston Bruins
Location: 966 pages of no one caring, AB
Joined: 11.26.2008

Jan 11 @ 11:04 AM ET
I said one of the worst.

And yes i still think he is.

- senstroll

No thinking required. anybody with a set of eye balls can watch the team and read a stat sheet and realize they rely solely on a defensmen that plays forward, a goalie playing out of his mind and a shooting percentage that will not last.
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Jan 11 @ 11:04 AM ET
I said one of the worst.

And yes i still think he is.

- senstroll


But the Stats you hold such a high regard for?????

senstroll
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Sens Suck, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jan 11 @ 11:19 AM ET
But the Stats you hold such a high regard for?????
- D0PPELGANGER


what about them?
I saw you post PDO.. but what are you saying about them?


Edit: oh.. I think I see what you were trying to say

7th Ottawa Senators Save% 0.913 Shoot% 0.098 = PDO 1.011
17th toronto maple leafs Save%0.917 Shoot% 0.083 = PDO 0.999

you rank Ottawa 7th and Leafs 17th.. So you think those stats are saying Ottawa is better than the leafs

Hint..thats not what it says
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Jan 11 @ 12:01 PM ET
what about them?
I saw you post PDO.. but what are you saying about them?


Edit: oh.. I think I see what you were trying to say

7th Ottawa Senators Save% 0.913 Shoot% 0.098 = PDO 1.011
17th toronto maple leafs Save%0.917 Shoot% 0.083 = PDO 0.999

you rank Ottawa 7th and Leafs 17th.. So you think those stats are saying Ottawa is better than the leafs

Hint..thats not what it says

- senstroll


Not saying anything, you can interpret it anyway you want, the stats show what they show.

Today


10 Ottawa Senators 0.912 0.095 1.007
20 Toronto Maple Leafs 0.913 0.081 0.994
senstroll
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Sens Suck, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jan 11 @ 1:00 PM ET
Not saying anything, you can interpret it anyway you want, the stats show what they show.

Today


10 Ottawa Senators 0.912 0.095 1.007
20 Toronto Maple Leafs 0.913 0.081 0.994

- D0PPELGANGER



When Ottawa had 103 PDO and NYR were 107, I said both were looking to fall, they were riding unsustainable numbers.. and thats exactly what has happened

Ottawa is back around 1.000 which is roughly the Norm. Ottawa has dropped to a fringe playoff team and 6th in the Division.

You keep posting the Points % ..which is what has happened, but if you cant see the value in stats and looking at PDO for example..which can help predict future events.. nothing is accurate 100%..but there are some good indicators
Cape Breton Bruins
Boston Bruins
Location: 966 pages of no one caring, AB
Joined: 11.26.2008

Jan 11 @ 1:29 PM ET
When Ottawa had 103 PDO and NYR were 107, I said both were looking to fall, they were riding unsustainable numbers.. and thats exactly what has happened

Ottawa is back around 1.000 which is roughly the Norm. Ottawa has dropped to a fringe playoff team and 6th in the Division.

You keep posting the Points % ..which is what has happened, but if you cant see the value in stats and looking at PDO for example..which can help predict future events.. nothing is accurate 100%..but there are some good indicators

- senstroll

Absolutely
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jan 12 @ 7:35 AM ET
When Ottawa had 103 PDO and NYR were 107, I said both were looking to fall, they were riding unsustainable numbers.. and thats exactly what has happened

Ottawa is back around 1.000 which is roughly the Norm. Ottawa has dropped to a fringe playoff team and 6th in the Division.

You keep posting the Points % ..which is what has happened, but if you cant see the value in stats and looking at PDO for example..which can help predict future events.. nothing is accurate 100%..but there are some good indicators

- senstroll

Not to mention, Leaf's PDO was low, and normalized back up towards 1.000, which also coincided with the team's improvement over the last few months.

Funny, that.



Dopps likes Points% again? I remember when the Leafs had a better point%, all that mattered was games in hand.
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Jan 12 @ 9:16 AM ET
Not to mention, Leaf's PDO was low, and normalized back up towards 1.000, which also coincided with the team's improvement over the last few months.

Funny, that.



Dopps likes Points% again? I remember when the Leafs had a better point%, all that mattered was games in hand.

- Feeling Glucky?



Games in hand matter as it give a team with more games left to play, an chance/incentive to win and increase their P%, while pursuing a team with fewer games to play in the season.

A teams P% is no guarantee of future performance, it's a performance to date stat, and puts teams in perspective to one another better than just looking at points, on any given day.


Yeah the leafs had a great P% in December of 2014, how did that turn out for them?
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jan 13 @ 10:15 AM ET
Games in hand matter as it give a team with more games left to play, an chance/incentive to win and increase their P%, while pursuing a team with fewer games to play in the season.

A teams P% is no guarantee of future performance, it's a performance to date stat, and puts teams in perspective to one another better than just looking at points, on any given day.


Yeah the leafs had a great P% in December of 2014, how did that turn out for them?

- D0PPELGANGER

It's so fun to watch you endlessly justify your idiocy.
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Jan 13 @ 11:57 AM ET
It's so fun to watch you endlessly justify your idiocy.
- Feeling Glucky?


Again, over your head.


Currently the Boston Bruins with 47 points in 41 games (.5731) trail the Detroit Red Wings who have 51 points in 43 games (0.593).

Do you see the two games in hand the Bruins have as an advantage, or a disadvantage in their ability to over take the Red Wings in the Standings?
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