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D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Jan 5 @ 1:27 PM ET
the sens are 19-21

But Dave Cameron has a good point % = Good coach

ignore all the other red flags

- senstroll



So for the Calendar Year of 2015, what are the top ten Records (points) in the NHL?
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Jan 5 @ 1:31 PM ET
watched them last night against the Blues.

Most undeserved win I've seen so far this season. Ridiculous.

- Pecafan Fan


Ah, but did you watch the Previous game Vs the Blackhawks? Sens played one of their best games of the season.

They played as well as if not better than the Blackhawks, but no puck luck...........one hit crossbar, one hit goalpost game could have easily been tied with no need to pull the goaltender at the end of the game.
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jan 5 @ 3:04 PM ET
So a "good" Coach should not try to gain as many points as possible?
- D0PPELGANGER


that has nothing to do with what i said
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jan 5 @ 3:05 PM ET
So for the Calendar Year of 2015, what are the top ten Records (points) in the NHL?
- D0PPELGANGER



#1 Chicago Stanley Cup
#2 every other team who didnt win
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jan 5 @ 3:41 PM ET
So for the Calendar Year of 2015, what are the top ten Records (points) in the NHL?
- D0PPELGANGER


Completely irrelevant.
Because a season doesn't play itself in a calendar year.


(but i understand that you want to maximise the impact of the sens fluke run at the end of last season)
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Jan 5 @ 10:59 PM ET
Completely irrelevant.
Because a season doesn't play itself in a calendar year.


(but i understand that you want to maximise the impact of the sens fluke run at the end of last season)

- Pecafan Fan



Completely relevant, my friend made this ridiculous claim



they might have one of the worst coaches in the League.


- senstroll


Cameron took over the Senators in the Second week of December 2014, and in the 95 games he coached at the NHL level, he's compiled a pretty strong record.

There are only four active NHL coaches ranked higher than him at this time.

Yes, it's only 95 games, and yes it includes that remarkable run in the second half of last season........... to say it was a fluke is disingenuous, as they were full marks for all those wins.

Would you call the Habs first month of this season a fluke?

BTW, the Sens are only 3 points back of the Habs, and have a game in hand.
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jan 6 @ 8:33 AM ET
Completely relevant, my friend made this ridiculous claim



Cameron took over the Senators in the Second week of December 2014, and in the 95 games he coached at the NHL level, he's compiled a pretty strong record.

There are only four active NHL coaches ranked higher than him at this time.

Yes, it's only 95 games, and yes it includes that remarkable run in the second half of last season........... to say it was a fluke is disingenuous, as they were full marks for all those wins.

Would you call the Habs first month of this season a fluke?

BTW, the Sens are only 3 points back of the Habs, and have a game in hand.

- D0PPELGANGER


Absolutely.


They are exactly like the Senators... except the Sens have an healthy Anderson and the Habs miss their best layer in Carey Price.
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Jan 6 @ 9:19 AM ET
Absolutely.


They are exactly like the Senators... except the Sens have an healthy Anderson and the Habs miss their best layer in Carey Price.

- Pecafan Fan



And Ottawa has been without two of their top six forwards for most of the season, and to a lesser extend have been without one of their stable veteran D-Men as well.

Also, with Hammond being out of the line for extended periods of time, Anderson has played a few to many games, and probably cost the team some points.

With all that being said, the Senators are right were I expected them to be, challenging for a WC spot.
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jan 6 @ 11:04 AM ET
if the leafs win the 3 games in hand they are 1 point back of the mighty sens who are way ahead of the poopty tanking leafs in their rebuild
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Jan 6 @ 1:40 PM ET
if the leafs win the 3 games in hand they are 1 point back of the mighty sens who are way ahead of the poopty tanking leafs in their rebuild
- senstroll


Like I mentioned a few pages back, it is not inconceivable that the leafs could catch the Sens in the standings .................. I think I may have asked who would be in a better position then, if the Sens ended up Selecting before the leafs in the entry draft.
Cape Breton Bruins
Boston Bruins
Location: long friend time friend, AB
Joined: 11.26.2008

Jan 6 @ 1:58 PM ET
And Ottawa has been without two of their top six forwards for most of the season, and to a lesser extend have been without one of their stable veteran D-Men as well.

Also, with Hammond being out of the line for extended periods of time, Anderson has played a few to many games, and probably cost the team some points.

With all that being said, the Senators are right were I expected them to be, challenging for a WC spot.

- D0PPELGANGER

Lots of excuses to describe what is essentially a mediocre team.

Leafs 100%
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jan 7 @ 10:04 PM ET
Another good game for the sens.





Leafs.
Cape Breton Bruins
Boston Bruins
Location: long friend time friend, AB
Joined: 11.26.2008

Jan 7 @ 11:48 PM ET
Another good game for the sens.





Leafs.

- Pecafan Fan

Agreed 100%

It's the Leafs.
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Jan 8 @ 12:47 AM ET
LEAFS

100%
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jan 8 @ 7:58 AM ET
We're close to a consensus, I believe.
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jan 8 @ 8:49 AM ET
We're close to a consensus, I believe.
- Pecafan Fan


If everyone on the sens gives 5% more..thats a 100% improvement
Cape Breton Bruins
Boston Bruins
Location: long friend time friend, AB
Joined: 11.26.2008

Jan 8 @ 9:59 AM ET
If everyone on the sens gives 5% more..thats a 100% improvement
- senstroll

If everyone on the Sens gives 5% more, perhaps they can afford to spend to the cap LOL
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jan 8 @ 10:02 AM ET
If everyone on the Sens gives 5% more, perhaps they can afford to spend to the cap LOL
- Cape Breton Bruins


Oh poop!
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jan 8 @ 10:03 AM ET
Oh poop!
- Pecafan Fan

melolnyk
Cape Breton Bruins
Boston Bruins
Location: long friend time friend, AB
Joined: 11.26.2008

Jan 8 @ 10:25 AM ET
melolnyk
- Crimsoninja

At this point, he must be considered the worst owner in the league.
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Jan 8 @ 2:00 PM ET
7th Ottawa Senators Save% 0.913 Shoot% 0.098 = PDO 1.011
17th toronto maple leafs Save%0.917 Shoot% 0.083 = PDO 0.999
Cape Breton Bruins
Boston Bruins
Location: long friend time friend, AB
Joined: 11.26.2008

Jan 8 @ 2:27 PM ET
7th Ottawa Senators Save% 0.913 Shoot% 0.098 = PDO 1.011
17th toronto maple leafs Save%0.917 Shoot% 0.083 = PDO 0.999

- D0PPELGANGER

At this point I'm going to have to go with the Leafs.

Yup, leafs 100%
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jan 8 @ 2:46 PM ET
At this point, he must be considered the worst owner in the league.
- Cape Breton Bruins

sports?
Cape Breton Bruins
Boston Bruins
Location: long friend time friend, AB
Joined: 11.26.2008

Jan 8 @ 3:06 PM ET
sports?
- Crimsoninja

Second only to Jerry Jones. The second he commandeer's the teams day to day operations and becomes the GM and continues to treat it like a real life fantasy team he will reach the height of heights of ineptitude owner.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jan 8 @ 3:08 PM ET
Second only to Jerry Jones. The second he commandeer's the teams day to day operations and becomes the GM and continues to treat it like a real life fantasy team he will reach the height of heights of ineptitude owner.
- Cape Breton Bruins

good point but can we agree that at least Jones seems to care about winning unlike some owners (melnyk) who simply view their teams as cash-cows?
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