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Cape Breton Bruins
Boston Bruins
Location: 966 pages of no one caring, AB
Joined: 11.26.2008

Dec 13 @ 12:20 AM ET
P.S. Ottawa is currently in a better situation...
- habman75

Nope
daeth
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: when it's a 3 taco-bell town, maybe they'll be ready, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Dec 13 @ 1:20 AM ET
According to Sens fans, Stamkos is alsmost a Senator at this point. Watch out.
- Pecafan Fan

Melnyk's going to set up a kickststarter/gofundme for this?
daeth
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: when it's a 3 taco-bell town, maybe they'll be ready, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Dec 13 @ 1:35 AM ET
How does a team give up 27 shots in one period?
Cape Breton Bruins
Boston Bruins
Location: 966 pages of no one caring, AB
Joined: 11.26.2008

Dec 13 @ 1:40 AM ET
How does a team give up 27 shots in one period?
- daeth

Team Norris trophy
daeth
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: when it's a 3 taco-bell town, maybe they'll be ready, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Dec 13 @ 1:43 AM ET
I forgot that stats don't matter though. I'm sure the shot counter just inflated that number and Ottawa played great D and only really gave up 6 shots.
daeth
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: when it's a 3 taco-bell town, maybe they'll be ready, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Dec 13 @ 1:45 AM ET
According to an article I read today from THN, Stamkos is on the decline at age 26.
- Cape Breton Bruins

He actually hasn't looked great since his injury. His playoff performance last year was
habman75
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Une plotzza, une plotine, and , QC
Joined: 09.07.2007

Dec 13 @ 7:39 AM ET
Nope
- Cape Breton Bruins


Yes they are. Currently a better team with much better young talent. 2-3 years down the road might not be the same, but currently, even a drunken maritimer should be able to see the difference.
daeth
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: when it's a 3 taco-bell town, maybe they'll be ready, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Dec 13 @ 7:41 AM ET
still LEAFS
habman75
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Une plotzza, une plotine, and , QC
Joined: 09.07.2007

Dec 13 @ 7:44 AM ET
still LEAFS
- daeth


I don't dislike one team over another, but at the moment, the standings should do the talking. Ottawa is currently in a better situation. Not for long though.
habman75
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Une plotzza, une plotine, and , QC
Joined: 09.07.2007

Dec 13 @ 7:52 AM ET
Ottawa is a good team. Hoffman, Micro-fracture, Karlsson makes a decent, albeit faggety core...
Cape Breton Bruins
Boston Bruins
Location: 966 pages of no one caring, AB
Joined: 11.26.2008

Dec 13 @ 9:47 AM ET
Ottawa is a good team. Hoffman, Micro-fracture, Karlsson makes a decent, albeit faggety core...
- habman75

Leafs
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Dec 13 @ 12:36 PM ET
I forgot that stats don't matter though. I'm sure the shot counter just inflated that number and Ottawa played great D and only really gave up 6 shots.
- daeth

I'm still curious about how stat keepers inflate goalie stats.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Dec 13 @ 12:38 PM ET
I don't dislike one team over another, but at the moment, the standings should do the talking. Ottawa is currently in a better situation. Not for long though.
- habman75

Doesn't that suggest the Leafs are in a better position?

We're not just talking standings. Otherwise the thread would be called "who is in a better position in the standings?"
daeth
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: when it's a 3 taco-bell town, maybe they'll be ready, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Dec 13 @ 12:41 PM ET
yes, this is not the current standings thread. go to nhl.com for that info.
daeth
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: when it's a 3 taco-bell town, maybe they'll be ready, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Dec 13 @ 12:41 PM ET
Doesn't that suggest the Leafs are in a better position?

We're not just talking standings. Otherwise the thread would be called "who is in a better position in the standings?"

- Feeling Glucky?

If you watched the games you'd understand.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Dec 13 @ 12:42 PM ET
Dopps, please hurry with your unrelated copy+paste response to how stat keepers inflate goalie stats.
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Dec 13 @ 1:50 PM ET
According to Sens fans, Stamkos is alsmost a Senator at this point. Watch out.
- Pecafan Fan



Huh?
habman75
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Une plotzza, une plotine, and , QC
Joined: 09.07.2007

Dec 13 @ 3:03 PM ET
Doesn't that suggest the Leafs are in a better position?

We're not just talking standings. Otherwise the thread would be called "who is in a better position in the standings?"

- Feeling Glucky?



Semantics. Ottawa, at this very moment is in a better position. Quite simple to understand. And although I think the Leafs will be in a better position in 2-3 years, there is absolutely zero guarantee that Nylander or Marner are sure fire NHL stars. The prospects look decent, but they are just prospects until they prove something in the big league.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Dec 13 @ 9:17 PM ET
Semantics. Ottawa, at this very moment is in a better position. Quite simple to understand. And although I think the Leafs will be in a better position in 2-3 years, there is absolutely zero guarantee that Nylander or Marner are sure fire NHL stars. The prospects look decent, but they are just prospects until they prove something in the big league.
- habman75


The Leafs right now have better prospects.
Cape Breton Bruins
Boston Bruins
Location: 966 pages of no one caring, AB
Joined: 11.26.2008

Dec 13 @ 9:24 PM ET
The Leafs right now have better prospects.
- RogerRoeper

They are also in a much better position.
BingoLady
Montreal Canadiens
Location: 13-2-1, NB
Joined: 07.15.2009

Dec 13 @ 9:29 PM ET
The Leafs right now have better prospects.
- RogerRoeper

Roger Doper
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the arena with no parking
Joined: 07.06.2007

Dec 13 @ 9:56 PM ET
Roger Doper
- BingoLady

RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Dec 13 @ 10:39 PM ET
Roger Doper
- BingoLady



Leafs 6th best. Senators 23rd best.

http://thehockeywriters.c...ect-pools-power-rankings/

ESPN has the Leafs at #2 behind only the Oilers. Senators are again 23rd.

https://www.reddit.com/r/...ery_nhl_team_by_prospect/

Hockeysfutures has 2 Leafs in the top 10 list of NHL prospects. Senators have 0.

.https://www.reddit.com/r/hockey/comments/3gmkhz/espn_insider_ranking_every_nhl_team_by_prospect/[url]

What was that about the Sens having better young talent?

By next summer with another top 5 pick and 11-12 other picks the Leaf will have the consensus best prospect pool in the entire NHL.

Senators can continue to fight for 8th and have a mediocre prospect pool and the worst and cheapest NHL owner. they're going nowhere fast.
habman75
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Une plotzza, une plotine, and , QC
Joined: 09.07.2007

Dec 14 @ 5:54 AM ET
Leafs 6th best. Senators 23rd best.

http://thehockeywriters.c...ect-pools-power-rankings/

ESPN has the Leafs at #2 behind only the Oilers. Senators are again 23rd.

https://www.reddit.com/r/...ery_nhl_team_by_prospect/

Hockeysfutures has 2 Leafs in the top 10 list of NHL prospects. Senators have 0.

.https://www.reddit.com/r/hockey/comments/3gmkhz/espn_insider_ranking_every_nhl_team_by_prospect/

- RogerRoeper[url]

What was that about the Sens having better young talent?

By next summer with another top 5 pick and 11-12 other picks the Leaf will have the consensus best prospect pool in the entire NHL.

Senators can continue to fight for 8th and have a mediocre prospect pool and the worst and cheapest NHL owner. they're going nowhere fast.



Their better young talent is currently playing on the team you big dunce... What do the Leafs have? Unproven talent, that is all...
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Dec 14 @ 7:26 AM ET
For an example, take a look at Henrik Lundqvist's Shots Against and Shot attempts Against ..........at home vs on the road, you'll see a big difference.
- D0PPELGANGER

So what you're saying is the stat keepers are inflating the visiting team's shots for, making the home team look worse?
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