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Cape Breton Bruins
Boston Bruins
Location: 771 pages of no one caring, AB
Joined: 11.26.2008

Apr 11 @ 2:57 PM ET
they definitely suck right now.


And are in a much better position than the sens because of it.

- Feeling Glucky?

Doppleganger
Ottawa Senators
Location: Reality
Joined: 08.25.2006

Apr 11 @ 3:46 PM ET
Sunday April 12th 2015




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sensarmy_11
Ottawa Senators
Location: If Ottawa traded ryan for clarkson sens would need to add a pick - Prock, NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Apr 11 @ 7:11 PM ET
soooooooo........................


should we change the name of this thread to include a team that's more in the leafs category of disaster........maybe "who's in a better situation, the leafs or devils"
daeth
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Drink full, and descend, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Apr 11 @ 7:26 PM ET
soooooooo........................


should we change the name of this thread to include a team that's more in the leafs category of disaster........maybe "who's in a better situation, the leafs or devils"

- sensarmy_11

the devils? they were in the finals in 2012. find another team.
golfingsince
Location: The losers tonight are the people.-QP
Joined: 11.30.2011

Apr 11 @ 8:04 PM ET
Leafs must be in a better position. Who the hell cares about playoffs anyways ?
sensarmy_11
Ottawa Senators
Location: If Ottawa traded ryan for clarkson sens would need to add a pick - Prock, NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Apr 11 @ 8:30 PM ET
the devils? they were in the finals in 2012. find another team.
- daeth


they were................and it was on the back of a miraculous broduer run, with guys like kovalchuk, parise, and a 30 goal clarkson in their line up.

right now, they have mediocre talent, lots of bad contracts, little in the way of upcoming talent, and a future that looks like it's years away from even being considered decent.

the only difference i see between the two is that the leafs mediocre players are a bit younger than the devils ones, leafs management seems to have realized the franchise is a joke (although whether they actually act on it remains to be seen).....however the devils have a franchise goalie, and a better on ice product right now.
sensarmy_11
Ottawa Senators
Location: If Ottawa traded ryan for clarkson sens would need to add a pick - Prock, NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Apr 11 @ 8:30 PM ET
Leafs must be in a better position. Who the hell cares about playoffs anyways ?
- golfingsince


seriously, i mean the chance at getting mitch marner or lawson crouse...........so much better than the playoffs.
daeth
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Drink full, and descend, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Apr 11 @ 8:33 PM ET
they were................and it was on the back of a miraculous broduer run, with guys like kovalchuk, parise, and a 30 goal clarkson in their line up.

right now, they have mediocre talent, lots of bad contracts, little in the way of upcoming talent, and a future that looks like it's years away from even being considered decent.

the only difference i see between the two is that the leafs mediocre players are a bit younger than the devils ones, leafs management seems to have realized the franchise is a joke (although whether they actually act on it remains to be seen).....however the devils have a franchise goalie, and a better on ice product right now.

- sensarmy_11

until the devils prove they can't win for 10 years you're gonna have to find another comparison, sorry! the leafs are on another level.

lots of teams stink for a few years before being half decent again.
sensarmy_11
Ottawa Senators
Location: If Ottawa traded ryan for clarkson sens would need to add a pick - Prock, NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Apr 11 @ 8:38 PM ET
until the devils prove they can't win for 10 years you're gonna have to find another comparison, sorry! the leafs are on another level.

lots of teams stink for a few years before being half decent again.

- daeth


well then the only comparable would be the oilers..........but with thier collection of young talent, they're in an infinitely better position than the leafs.
daeth
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Drink full, and descend, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Apr 11 @ 8:40 PM ET
well then the only comparable would be the oilers..........but with thier collection of young talent, they're in an infinitely better position than the leafs.
- sensarmy_11

infinitely? you'd think they wouldn't be lower in the standings then.
sensarmy_11
Ottawa Senators
Location: If Ottawa traded ryan for clarkson sens would need to add a pick - Prock, NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Apr 11 @ 8:43 PM ET
infinitely? you'd think they wouldn't be lower in the standings then.
- daeth


isn't the whole point of this thread talking about the future and hte position the organizations are in?

the three teams that finished behind the leafs this year are LOADED with young talent, and arguably the 3 of the 5 best prospect pools in the NHL. so yes, their seasons sucked this year, but they are in a much better position moving forward.
daeth
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Drink full, and descend, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Apr 11 @ 8:50 PM ET
isn't the whole point of this thread talking about the future and hte position the organizations are in?

the three teams that finished behind the leafs this year are LOADED with young talent, and arguably the 3 of the 5 best prospect pools in the NHL. so yes, their seasons sucked this year, but they are in a much better position moving forward.

- sensarmy_11

edmonton is special though

they're able to tank and yet never get better
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Apr 11 @ 9:32 PM ET
soooooooo........................


should we change the name of this thread to include a team that's more in the leafs category of disaster........maybe "who's in a better situation, the leafs or devils"

- sensarmy_11

Realized the Sens are too far back to catch up?
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Apr 11 @ 9:36 PM ET
edmonton is special though

they're able to tank and yet never get better

- daeth

I said it in the other thread, Edmonton is definitely in a better situation than the Leafs.

Only Canadian teams that aren't are the nucks and Sens. Teams that won't be more than mediocre with their cores and don't realize it, and won't rebuild for a while because of it.
sensarmy_11
Ottawa Senators
Location: If Ottawa traded ryan for clarkson sens would need to add a pick - Prock, NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Apr 11 @ 9:44 PM ET
I said it in the other thread, Edmonton is definitely in a better situation than the Leafs.

Only Canadian teams that aren't are the nucks and Sens. Teams that won't be more than mediocre with their cores and don't realize it, and won't rebuild for a while because of it.

- Feeling Glucky?


Poor g lucky. ...must be hard to realize that a team you hate so much is SOOOOOO much better than your team.
golfingsince
Location: The losers tonight are the people.-QP
Joined: 11.30.2011

Apr 11 @ 9:58 PM ET
Poor g lucky. ...must be hard to realize that a team you hate so much is SOOOOOO much better than your team.
- sensarmy_11

Insanity .

Says the same thing year after year despite proof otherwise.
Doppleganger
Ottawa Senators
Location: Reality
Joined: 08.25.2006

Apr 12 @ 12:00 AM ET
I said it in the other thread, Edmonton is definitely in a better situation than the Leafs.

Only Canadian teams that aren't are the nucks and Sens. Teams that won't be more than mediocre with their cores and don't realize it, and won't rebuild for a while because of it.

- Feeling Glucky?



But just think of all that money the Senator's Owner is going to make from all the playoff home games, and all that attendance that will be selling out the CTC, and of course all the TV rating the Sens are going to get thought their playoff run.
Doppleganger
Ottawa Senators
Location: Reality
Joined: 08.25.2006

Apr 12 @ 12:12 AM ET
Funny how Karlsson is a total pylon defensively every time I see him play, but every other time, according to Dopps, he's amazing.
- prock



Starting to get close to two years later, almost a year and a half since he’s returned, and I still see Sens fans claiming that Karlsson being terrible defensively is because he’s not 100% back from his injury.

LOL.

- prock



What's karlsson at? How far negative?

Worst defenseman in his own zone in the entire league.

- prock




Will be in the Norris conversation, if not a finalist.
BingoLady
Montreal Canadiens
Location: 13-2-1, NB
Joined: 07.15.2009

Apr 12 @ 12:14 AM ET
Will be in the Norris conversation, if not a finalist.
- Doppleganger

Likely win.
senstroll
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Sens Suck, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Apr 12 @ 11:25 AM ET
Nothing has changed.. the leafs tanked and are re-building
The sens are a wild card team just barley making the playoffs

Cape Breton Bruins
Boston Bruins
Location: 771 pages of no one caring, AB
Joined: 11.26.2008

Apr 12 @ 11:33 AM ET
Nothing has changed.. the leafs tanked and are re-building
The sens are a wild card team just barley making the playoffs

- senstroll



Can't even swallow your pride long enough to give props on an incredible run. A run Leafs fans would be pounding their chest about if it were their team that accomplished something similar.

daeth
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Drink full, and descend, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Apr 12 @ 11:40 AM ET
I said it in the other thread, Edmonton is definitely in a better situation than the Leafs.

Only Canadian teams that aren't are the nucks and Sens. Teams that won't be more than mediocre with their cores and don't realize it, and won't rebuild for a while because of it.

- Feeling Glucky?

Edmonton is the only team in the league that's managed to be worse than the Leafs for an extended period of time. Their young players haven't proven poop either. I'd flip a coin to decide which team is more likely to win a playoff round next. We might be waiting a while.

Edmonton tanked at the wrong time and then did absolutely nothing with their other picks.
senstroll
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Sens Suck, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Apr 12 @ 11:42 AM ET


Can't even swallow your pride long enough to give props on an incredible run. A run Leafs fans would be pounding their chest about if it were their team that accomplished something similar.

- Cape Breton Bruins


no way I have to listen to the sens crap on the radio.
sensarmy_11
Ottawa Senators
Location: If Ottawa traded ryan for clarkson sens would need to add a pick - Prock, NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Apr 12 @ 11:43 AM ET


Can't even swallow your pride long enough to give props on an incredible run. A run Leafs fans would be pounding their chest about if it were their team that accomplished something similar.

- Cape Breton Bruins


They would have been pounding their chests had they managed to go on a run and finish 10th.....

"Our team is the best......we're gonna ride this run into next year".

They did it for about 5 or 6 years in a row
Doppleganger
Ottawa Senators
Location: Reality
Joined: 08.25.2006

Apr 12 @ 11:43 AM ET
Nothing has changed.. the leafs tanked and are re-building
The sens are a wild card team just barley making the playoffs

- senstroll



Everything has changed, the leafs sat in 4th in the conference at .756 P%, and with a 95.5% chance of making the playoffs, on December 16th, that's less than 4 months ago.

The Senators were sitting 11 points back on the same date, with a .500 P% rating and about a 20% chance of making the playoffs.

Today the Senators see themselves finishing 7th in the division with 99 points, one less than the Red Wings, is making the Playoffs through the front door and barley had nothing to do with it, unless you're talking about the Senators sitting at home Last night having a beer will watching to see who they'd face in the first round.

Heck the Senators finished the 82 game season 13th overall in the league.
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