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Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jan 19 @ 8:27 PM ET
So but hurt.

Too bad its true. Any time you start naming all the goaliesbwith better stats you get "but his defence sucks he's the bestest I swear it"

Now we get morons like you talking about reimers stats being as good.

I would bet you were one of the brain dead idiots that would reply with "but halak only faced bad teams it doesn't count"..../

- prock


I never talked about Price or Halak. There's only on person who's butt hurt here tonight and it's you.


Because the Leafs are a (frank)ing mess since forever ans Bernier blows (frank)ing chunks.

Reimer is not to blame for whatever failure the Leafs have suffered. Poor mangement, drafting and trading is to blame.


Bernier is an average number one goalie. Deal with it.
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jan 19 @ 8:38 PM ET
Because they played on different teams in different conferences. Comparing them behind the same forwards and defense makes more sense.
- Feeling Glucky?

Reimer with the Leafs = Bernier with the Leafs.

It's really all that simple.
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jan 19 @ 8:43 PM ET
Bernier must be injured... right, glucker?
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jan 19 @ 9:03 PM ET
Reimer with the Leafs = Bernier with the Leafs.

It's really all that simple.

- Pecafan Fan

Yup. Except for all the evidence.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jan 19 @ 9:04 PM ET
Bernier must be injured... right, glucker?
- Pecafan Fan

or the team's just mailing it in all-around?
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jan 19 @ 9:06 PM ET
Yup. Except for all the evidence.
- Feeling Glucky?

If the numbers are similar and you just confessed you didn't watch the leafs for a month, I don't see how you can still argue.

You talk right out of your ass.


Thanks for playing. Better luck next time.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jan 19 @ 9:10 PM ET
If the numbers are similar and you just confessed you didn't watch the leafs for a month, I don't see how you can still argue.

You talk right out of your ass.


Thanks for playing. Better luck next time.

- Pecafan Fan

I love what a big moment this is for you.

Watching the games, reading the stats, they all point to the same conclusion. Reimer
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jan 19 @ 9:12 PM ET
I love what a big moment this is for you.

Watching the games, reading the stats, they all point to the same conclusion. Reimer
- Feeling Glucky?

They point to the fact both are good goalies but none can save the leafs from the cluster(frank) that team really is.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jan 19 @ 9:18 PM ET
They point to the fact both are good goalies but none can save the leafs from the cluster(frank) that team really is.
- Pecafan Fan

Well, I wasn't arguing that

I lost interest near the start of the losing skid because it was clear where they were going.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Boyle > Marleau :dopes, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jan 19 @ 11:48 PM ET
Mirtle's a clown
-burn

- Pecafan Fan


Clever.

burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Boyle > Marleau :dopes, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jan 19 @ 11:50 PM ET
[quote=Doppleganger]


So, still no quote that you claimed? I guess the fact that you cannot post said quote is an indication that it doesn't exist.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Boyle > Marleau :dopes, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jan 19 @ 11:56 PM ET
Since coming to the Leafs, Bernier has posted a better GAA, SV%, and the Leafs have a better record with him in net than with Reimer.

But outside of those numbers, yea, the stats totally show they're the same goalie.

- Feeling Glucky?



Compare the numbers when reimer was clear cut guy, and numbers of Bernier since he got here.

They are about the same.
Doppleganger
Ottawa Senators
Location: Reality
Joined: 08.25.2006

Jan 20 @ 12:19 AM ET
I never talked about Price or Halak. There's only on person who's butt hurt here tonight and it's you.


Because the Leafs are a (frank)ing mess since forever ans Bernier blows (frank)ing chunks.

Reimer is not to blame for whatever failure the Leafs have suffered. Poor mangement, drafting and trading is to blame.


Bernier is an average number one goalie. Deal with it.

- Pecafan Fan



Bernier stopped 10 of the 13 shots he faced last night, and Reimer stopped all 18 he faced.

Reimer > Bernier



Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 12 grands is NOTHING in the art market.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jan 20 @ 12:35 AM ET
this is insane
habman75
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Une plotzza, une plotine, and , QC
Joined: 09.07.2007

Jan 20 @ 6:25 AM ET
this is insane
- Crimsoninja



I know I am, but what am I?
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jan 20 @ 7:29 AM ET
Compare the numbers when reimer was clear cut guy, and numbers of Bernier since he got here.

They are about the same.

- burn


Yes.
Doppleganger
Ottawa Senators
Location: Reality
Joined: 08.25.2006

Jan 20 @ 8:11 AM ET
So, still no quote that you claimed? I guess the fact that you cannot post said quote is an indication that it doesn't exist.
- burn



No, I conceded to your superior assessment of the situation back on the last page. The leafs brain trust were completly happy will ALL aspects of little willies' overall game play at the WJC, and that's why they sent him back to the SHL.

All those NHL scouts that make their living evaluating young prospects at the WJC were all wrong about him. Little willie was right on track with his development and there was no need for the leafs brain trust to promote him to the AHL, just as they should have done at the end of training camp.







Now back to reality, why did they promote him to the AHL, if as you claim there wee no problems with his game, and he was the best player to ever play at the WJC and lead his team to the double super gold extreme medal?
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Boyle > Marleau :dopes, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jan 20 @ 8:15 AM ET
No, I conceded to your superior assessment of the situation back on the last page. The leafs brain trust were completly happy will ALL aspects of little willies' overall game play at the WJC, and that's why they sent him back to the SHL.

All those NHL scouts that make their living evaluating young prospects at the WJC were all wrong about him. Little willie was right on track with his development and there was no need for the leafs brain trust to promote him to the AHL, just as they should have done at the end of training camp.







Now back to reality, why did they promote him to the AHL, if as you claim there wee no problems with his game, and he was the best player to ever play at the WJC and lead his team to the double super gold extreme medal?

- Doppleganger


No where did I say he was flawless. He is what he is and he did that well. That is called doing well.



burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Boyle > Marleau :dopes, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jan 20 @ 8:20 AM ET
No, I conceded to your superior assessment of the situation back on the last page. The leafs brain trust were completly happy will ALL aspects of little willies' overall game play at the WJC, and that's why they sent him back to the SHL.

All those NHL scouts that make their living evaluating young prospects at the WJC were all wrong about him. Little willie was right on track with his development and there was no need for the leafs brain trust to promote him to the AHL, just as they should have done at the end of training camp.







Now back to reality, why did they promote him to the AHL, if as you claim there wee no problems with his game, and he was the best player to ever play at the WJC and lead his team to the double super gold extreme medal?

- Doppleganger



Could you be more contradictory here?? Why'd they "Promote him to the AHL" if he was doing so poorly, as you have stated??

He's an 18yr old kid. A small skilled forward. That is what he is, and that is what he did (in the SHL and the WCJ). To suggest that because he isn't Guy Carbeaneau he's failing is absurd.

How does Arizona Feel about Domi??
Doppleganger
Ottawa Senators
Location: Reality
Joined: 08.25.2006

Jan 20 @ 8:23 AM ET
No where did I say he was flawless. He is what he is and he did that well. That is called doing well.
- burn



And all those NHL scouts that were surveyed were lying in their assessment of his game without the puck, right?


http://www.stcatharinesst...ylander-from-swedish-team

- Remarkably skilled with the puck.

- Uninvolved without it.



Oh did I mention that Mike Zeisberger of the toronto Sun, who wrote article also mentioned on panel on Sportsnet that they also noticed he was easily knocked off the puck, and needed to got to the AHL to play the North American game to work on that?
Cape Breton Bruins
Boston Bruins
Location: 771 pages of no one caring, AB
Joined: 11.26.2008

Jan 20 @ 8:55 AM ET
Jesus Christ dopps you're obsessed.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jan 20 @ 8:58 AM ET
And all those NHL scouts that were surveyed were lying in their assessment of his game without the puck, right?


http://www.stcatharinesst...ylander-from-swedish-team

- Remarkably skilled with the puck.

- Uninvolved without it.



Oh did I mention that Mike Zeisberger of the toronto Sun, who wrote article also mentioned on panel on Sportsnet that they also noticed he was easily knocked off the puck, and needed to got to the AHL to play the North American game to work on that?

- Doppleganger

you know, when you keep using that one bullet point over and over, with no other arguments, it really makes your argument that much stronger.

Here, let me try it:
1. William Nylander, C, Toronto Maple Leafs (previous ranking: 4)
Current team: Toronto Marlies (AHL) | 2014-15 stats: 21 GP 8 G 12 A
DOB: 5-1-96 | Draft: No. 8, 2014

The top group were all close for me, and I would not say that putting Nylander No. 1 was an easy call. I leaned toward him because he stands out. His skill level is unique, his play in Sweden this year has been unique, the way he weaves through the neutral zone and gains the blue line effortlessly is unique. He's by no means a perfect player -- he has to improve his play off the puck and get a lot stronger -- but the upside is quite tantalizing.


An unbiased scout thinks he's the best drafted prospect from all NHL teams. Interesting.
the_cause2000
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Not quite my tempo
Joined: 02.26.2007

Jan 20 @ 8:58 AM ET
Jesus Christ dopps you're obsessed.
- Cape Breton Bruins

Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jan 20 @ 8:58 AM ET
Jesus Christ dopps you're obsessed.
- Cape Breton Bruins

Maybe, however:
1. William Nylander, C, Toronto Maple Leafs (previous ranking: 4)
Current team: Toronto Marlies (AHL) | 2014-15 stats: 21 GP 8 G 12 A
DOB: 5-1-96 | Draft: No. 8, 2014

The top group were all close for me, and I would not say that putting Nylander No. 1 was an easy call. I leaned toward him because he stands out. His skill level is unique, his play in Sweden this year has been unique, the way he weaves through the neutral zone and gains the blue line effortlessly is unique. He's by no means a perfect player -- he has to improve his play off the puck and get a lot stronger -- but the upside is quite tantalizing.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jan 20 @ 8:59 AM ET

- the_cause2000

Here's an interesting something I dug up:

1. William Nylander, C, Toronto Maple Leafs (previous ranking: 4)
Current team: Toronto Marlies (AHL) | 2014-15 stats: 21 GP 8 G 12 A
DOB: 5-1-96 | Draft: No. 8, 2014

The top group were all close for me, and I would not say that putting Nylander No. 1 was an easy call. I leaned toward him because he stands out. His skill level is unique, his play in Sweden this year has been unique, the way he weaves through the neutral zone and gains the blue line effortlessly is unique. He's by no means a perfect player -- he has to improve his play off the puck and get a lot stronger -- but the upside is quite tantalizing.
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