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the_cause2000
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Not quite my tempo
Joined: 02.26.2007

Dec 15 @ 11:48 AM ET
how bout them leafs though
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Dec 15 @ 1:44 PM ET
Not the king, just overachieving.
- Doppleganger

You know, you'd be in a far better position to use that as a joke if the Senators hadn't regressed the way they did.
senstroll
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Sens Suck, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Dec 15 @ 4:09 PM ET
You know, you'd be in a far better position to use that as a joke if the Senators hadn't regressed the way they did.
- Feeling Glucky?


I tried to warn him
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Dec 16 @ 12:29 AM ET
Not the king, just overachieving.
- Doppleganger

It's funny how you're using a running gag about something that so many would agree with me.

The Sens two years ago really were that good. Gotcha.

All the facts say my statement is correct.

2 years ago on this board I warned you Anderson would never repeat the .941 save % and the Sens would automatically drop just due to that.
sensarmy_11
Ottawa Senators
Location: If Ottawa traded ryan for clarkson sens would need to add a pick - Prock, NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Dec 16 @ 6:50 AM ET
It's funny how you're using a running gag about something that so many would agree with me.

The Sens two years ago really were that good. Gotcha.

All the facts say my statement is correct.

2 years ago on this board I warned you Anderson would never repeat the .941 save % and the Sens would automatically drop just due to that.

- RogerRoeper


you mean kind of like how lots of people warned you that the leafs style of "winning" last year wasn't sustainable, yet you argued every day that it was.....and in the end you looked foolish, and still continued to argue that the only reason the leafs collapsed was because bernier got hurt (which i'm sure you're still convinced of)
Doppleganger
Ottawa Senators
Location: Reality
Joined: 08.25.2006

Dec 16 @ 8:07 AM ET
I just think that when a pundit, or anyone for that matter, claims a player, or a team, is "overachieving" or "over performing" they are saying that to fill air time, and it means SFA.

Please explain to me how someone, or a whole team, can "perform" above the level of their abilities?

Take the leafs current "hot streak", are they performing above their abilities, and if so how is that possible?

It's a throw away line sports commentators make that means nothing.
the_cause2000
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Not quite my tempo
Joined: 02.26.2007

Dec 16 @ 8:21 AM ET
I just think that when a pundit, or anyone for that matter, claims a player, or a team, is "overachieving" or "over performing" they are saying that to fill air time, and it means SFA.

Please explain to me how someone, or a whole team, can "perform" above the level of their abilities?

Take the leafs current "hot streak", are they performing above their abilities, and if so how is that possible?

It's a throw away line sports commentators make that means nothing.

- Doppleganger

they are performing better than Ottawa, thats pretty clear
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Dec 16 @ 8:22 AM ET
I just think that when a pundit, or anyone for that matter, claims a player, or a team, is "overachieving" or "over performing" they are saying that to fill air time, and it means SFA.

Please explain to me how someone, or a whole team, can "perform" above the level of their abilities?

Take the leafs current "hot streak", are they performing above their abilities, and if so how is that possible?

It's a throw away line sports commentators make that means nothing.

- Doppleganger


Ridiculously high shooting% + hot goaltending at the same time could be interpreted as "overachieving".

Doppleganger
Ottawa Senators
Location: Reality
Joined: 08.25.2006

Dec 16 @ 8:27 AM ET
overachieve
verb (used without object), overachieved, overachieving.

1. to perform, especially academically, above the potential indicated by tests of one's mental ability or aptitude.

2. to perform better or achieve more than expected, especially by others.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Boyle > Marleau :dopes, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Dec 16 @ 8:55 AM ET
overachieve
verb (used without object), overachieved, overachieving.

1. to perform, especially academically, above the potential indicated by tests of one's mental ability or aptitude.

2. to perform better or achieve more than expected, especially by others.

- Doppleganger




Sounds a lot like having a .910 career s%, and thn suddenly throwing out a .930+s%


senstroll
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Sens Suck, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Dec 16 @ 9:41 AM ET
Ridiculously high shooting% + hot goaltending at the same time could be interpreted as "overachieving".
- Pecafan Fan


pretty simple concept I thought

Doppleganger
Ottawa Senators
Location: Reality
Joined: 08.25.2006

Dec 16 @ 10:21 AM ET
pretty simple concept I thought
- senstroll


Which site do you use to consult over/under achieving stats, for each and every game, each and every player, and each and every shift?
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Dec 16 @ 10:30 AM ET
Which site do you use to consult over/under achieving stats, for each and every game, each and every player, and each and every shift?
- Doppleganger


Watch the games, nerd.
Doppleganger
Ottawa Senators
Location: Reality
Joined: 08.25.2006

Dec 16 @ 10:39 AM ET
Watch the games, nerd.
- Pecafan Fan


HEY, don't you know is Christmas?
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Dec 16 @ 10:48 AM ET
Which site do you use to consult over/under achieving stats, for each and every game, each and every player, and each and every shift?
- Doppleganger

We don't all need things force fed to us. Some of us can use this fancy tool known as "critical thinking" to draw conclusions from a set of data, be it first or second hand data.

And then others can just copy and paste.
Doppleganger
Ottawa Senators
Location: Reality
Joined: 08.25.2006

Dec 16 @ 12:34 PM ET
We don't all need things force fed to us. Some of us can use this fancy tool known as "critical thinking" to draw conclusions from a set of data, be it first or second hand data.

And then others can just copy and paste.

- Feeling Glucky?



You shouldn't underestimate people you don't know well enough, and conversely, never overestimate your own capabilities.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Dec 16 @ 1:46 PM ET
you mean kind of like how lots of people warned you that the leafs style of "winning" last year wasn't sustainable, yet you argued every day that it was.....and in the end you looked foolish, and still continued to argue that the only reason the leafs collapsed was because bernier got hurt (which i'm sure you're still convinced of)
- sensarmy_11


So you think there's no connection between Bernier getting hurt and the Leafs suddenly getting 0 points in 10 games with the backup?
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Dec 16 @ 1:50 PM ET
So you think there's no connection between Bernier getting hurt and the Leafs suddenly getting 0 points in 10 games with the backup?
- RogerRoeper


Sure could explain part of what happened. But the Leafs record was terrible for most of the second half of the season.

So those 10 games are only part of the explanation.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Dec 16 @ 1:50 PM ET
I just think that when a pundit, or anyone for that matter, claims a player, or a team, is "overachieving" or "over performing" they are saying that to fill air time, and it means SFA.

Please explain to me how someone, or a whole team, can "perform" above the level of their abilities?

Take the leafs current "hot streak", are they performing above their abilities, and if so how is that possible?

It's a throw away line sports commentators make that means nothing.

- Doppleganger



Small sample size. Their position in regards to standings, the Leafs are about where many thought they would be.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Dec 16 @ 1:52 PM ET
Sure could explain part of what happened. But the Leafs record was terrible for most of the second half of the season.

So those 10 games are only part of the explanation.

- Pecafan Fan


To ignore Bernier's injury and claim it did not matter is beyond ridiculous.
Mr_Squeaks
Ottawa Senators
Location: Location: Location: Glitch in
Joined: 06.26.2006

Dec 16 @ 2:45 PM ET
To ignore Bernier's injury and claim it did not matter is beyond ridiculous.
- RogerRoeper


On this thread, in this forum, on this website, you expect what, rationality?
sensarmy_11
Ottawa Senators
Location: If Ottawa traded ryan for clarkson sens would need to add a pick - Prock, NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Dec 16 @ 6:45 PM ET
So you think there's no connection between Bernier getting hurt and the Leafs suddenly getting 0 points in 10 games with the backup?
- RogerRoeper


it always makes me laugh that you claim:

1. the leafs last year only lost because bernier missed a few games, and weren't in fact a terrible team (like everyone else knows they were).

2. claim that ottawa was a terrible team and only won because of anderson.....and yet you ignore the fact that they were able to keep winning despite losing a better goalie than the leafs lost.........

hmmmmmmm

i think there are holes in your theory.
habman75
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Une plotzza, une plotine, and , QC
Joined: 09.07.2007

Dec 16 @ 7:00 PM ET
it always makes me laugh that you claim:

1. the leafs last year only lost because bernier missed a few games, and weren't in fact a terrible team (like everyone else knows they were).

2. claim that ottawa was a terrible team and only won because of anderson.....and yet you ignore the fact that they were able to keep winning despite losing a better goalie than the leafs lost.........

hmmmmmmm

i think there are holes in your theory.

- sensarmy_11



Agreed!
daeth
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Drink full, and descend, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Dec 16 @ 8:21 PM ET
losing bernier didnt help
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Dec 16 @ 9:23 PM ET
losing bernier didnt help
- daeth

Of course not.
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