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sensarmy_11
Ottawa Senators
Location: If Ottawa traded ryan for clarkson sens would need to add a pick - Prock, NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Apr 27 @ 8:18 PM ET

- hamiltonhabfan



Mr_Squeaks
Ottawa Senators
Location: Location: Location: Glitch in
Joined: 06.26.2006

Apr 28 @ 12:08 PM ET
Yes because the owner is not spending up to the cap max. The Sens weren't close to the max this year and the cap went down for the first time ever.

I have made this point many times on here, and now you're conveniently forgetting it.

When the Leafs have "Cap room", they spend to the max. When the Sens have "Cap Room", Melnyk takes the cash and puts it in his pocket.

Cap room only matters if you spend it. As the cap goes up more and more, you'll see more "Budget" teams in the NHL.

- RogerRoeper


But this comparison is the very kind that Ebineezer Melnyk loves the most - we didn't spend near the cap, while Toronto certainly spent more. And Ottawa ended up higher in the standings (for what THAT's worth). Melnyk looks at this and feels justified in his approach.

Had he been willing to spend to the cap, would may have been able to keep Alfie while STILL bringing in Macarthur and Ryan. Assuming Alfie didn't already have his heart set on winning the cup with the Wings. Oh wait.
Morris
Referee
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Apr 28 @ 12:14 PM ET
But this comparison is the very kind that Ebineezer Melnyk loves the most - we didn't spend near the cap, while Toronto certainly spent more. And Ottawa ended up higher in the standings (for what THAT's worth). Melnyk looks at this and feels justified in his approach.

Had he been willing to spend to the cap, would may have been able to keep Alfie while STILL bringing in Macarthur and Ryan. Assuming Alfie didn't already have his heart set on winning the cup with the Wings. Oh wait.

- Mr_Squeaks

Teams that are successful spend, but teams that spend aren't necessarily successful.

That's about the whole of it.
Mr_Squeaks
Ottawa Senators
Location: Location: Location: Glitch in
Joined: 06.26.2006

Apr 28 @ 12:20 PM ET
Teams that are successful spend, but teams that spend aren't necessarily successful.

That's about the whole of it.

- Morris


Yup, I'd buy that.
sensarmy_11
Ottawa Senators
Location: If Ottawa traded ryan for clarkson sens would need to add a pick - Prock, NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Apr 28 @ 12:36 PM ET
Yup, I'd buy that.
- Mr_Squeaks


but only for 75 cents on the dollar..............we are sens fans after all
Mr_Squeaks
Ottawa Senators
Location: Location: Location: Glitch in
Joined: 06.26.2006

Apr 28 @ 12:44 PM ET
but only for 75 cents on the dollar..............we are sens fans after all
- sensarmy_11


Any idiot can spend the whole dollar, and many do.
sensarmy_11
Ottawa Senators
Location: If Ottawa traded ryan for clarkson sens would need to add a pick - Prock, NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Apr 28 @ 2:26 PM ET
Any idiot can spend the whole dollar, and many do.
- Mr_Squeaks


why have alfi at 5, when we can have greening at 3.
Mr_Squeaks
Ottawa Senators
Location: Location: Location: Glitch in
Joined: 06.26.2006

Apr 28 @ 4:28 PM ET
why have alfi at 5, when we can have greening at 3.
- sensarmy_11


Shaddap.
the_cause2000
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Not quite my tempo
Joined: 02.26.2007

Apr 28 @ 4:40 PM ET
Leafs
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

May 1 @ 8:58 PM ET
Teams that are successful spend, but teams that spend aren't necessarily successful.

That's about the whole of it.

- Morris

I wonder if dopps would have mentioned something about the avs, who didnt spend near the cap, if they had passed the first round?


How many budget teams are playing in round 2?
Doppleganger
Ottawa Senators
Location: Reality
Joined: 08.25.2006

May 2 @ 9:14 AM ET
I wonder if dopps would have mentioned something about the avs, who didnt spend near the cap, if they had passed the first round?


How many budget teams are playing in round 2?

- Feeling Glucky?



The leafs spend at or near the cap, but are not in round two, so why didn't it work for them?
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

May 2 @ 9:25 AM ET
@Hope_Smoke 5m
7 playoff games in 10 years, a capped out roster that was one of the worst teams in the NHL this season & everyone might keep their job?
senstroll
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Sens Suck, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

May 2 @ 9:49 AM ET
@Hope_Smoke 5m
7 playoff games in 10 years, a capped out roster that was one of the worst teams in the NHL this season & everyone might keep their job?

- Pecafan Fan



if they keep everyone... its the worst run org in the League
the_cause2000
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Not quite my tempo
Joined: 02.26.2007

May 2 @ 10:27 AM ET
if they keep everyone... its the worst run org in the League
- senstroll

2nd worst, obviously
Cape Breton Bruins
Boston Bruins
Location: 771 pages of no one caring, AB
Joined: 11.26.2008

May 2 @ 10:35 AM ET
2nd worst, obviously
- the_cause2000

Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

May 2 @ 1:27 PM ET
The leafs spend at or near the cap, but are not in round two, so why didn't it work for them?
- Doppleganger

Countless posts on that subject.

But only one poster who seems to deny that you need to spend to succeed.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

May 2 @ 1:28 PM ET
@Hope_Smoke 5m
7 playoff games in 10 years, a capped out roster that was one of the worst teams in the NHL this season & everyone might keep their job?

- Pecafan Fan

pfft- they brought in Shanny.

Completely different culture now.
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

May 2 @ 1:33 PM ET
pfft- they brought in Shanny.

Completely different culture now.

- Feeling Glucky?


Yeah, everyone knows that the health of an organization relies heavily on adding multiple layers of executives on top of layers of executives.
Doppleganger
Ottawa Senators
Location: Reality
Joined: 08.25.2006

May 2 @ 4:17 PM ET
pfft- they brought in Shanny.

Completely different culture now.

- Feeling Glucky?



So finally you're admitting the BB culture change was wrong.

First step, many more to go.
Nucker101
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All right everyone, listen up
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 2 @ 4:25 PM ET
Yeah, everyone knows that the health of an organization relies heavily on adding multiple layers of executives on top of layers of executives.
- Pecafan Fan



They still need a Global Ambassador like the Raps with Drake. I nominate the Biebs.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

May 2 @ 4:40 PM ET
Yeah, everyone knows that the health of an organization relies heavily on adding multiple layers of executives on top of layers of executives.
- Pecafan Fan


The more layers of executives, the clearer the message. Just think of them as brita filters.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

May 2 @ 4:42 PM ET
They still need a Global Ambassador like the Raps with Drake. I nominate the Biebs.
- Nucker101

The team's ambassador needs to reflect the culture we want: Big, Tough, Don't take poop from anyone, and obviously, that person needs to be a famous Torontonian.


Ford is the obvious choice.
Nucker101
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All right everyone, listen up
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 2 @ 4:44 PM ET
The team's ambassador needs to reflect the culture we want: Big, Tough, Don't take poop from anyone, and obviously, that person needs to be a famous Torontonian.


Ford is the obvious choice.

- Feeling Glucky?



sensarmy_11
Ottawa Senators
Location: If Ottawa traded ryan for clarkson sens would need to add a pick - Prock, NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

May 9 @ 6:52 AM ET
The team's ambassador needs to reflect the culture we want: Big, Tough, Don't take poop from anyone, and obviously, that person needs to be a famous Torontonian.


Ford is the obvious choice.

- Feeling Glucky?




prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

May 14 @ 6:03 PM ET
hmmmm

The Cap has helped most of the teams not named the Rangers, Canadiens and Maple Leafs. Yes is makes it difficult to manage, but if these teams could spend to the limit, you would have lost Spezza, Heatley and Alfie long ago.
- Big T


yes, that's interesting.

You're mistaking Eugene Melnyk for Rod Bryden
- Sp00nz


Are we though? Are we really?
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