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Doppleganger
Ottawa Senators
Location: Reality
Joined: 08.25.2006

Apr 12 @ 2:39 PM ET
Do you think the Sens owner will spend anywhere near the cap? What happens when Bobby Ryan jumps ship next year?
- prock





Do you think the EXTRA $10 Million more the leafs spent this season, than the Senators was worth it?

toronto spent more than Montreal, Tampa Bay, Los Angeles, St. Louis, Columbus, Rangers, Anaheim and many more teams.

Heck the Avalanche only spent about $53 Million this season, less than Ottawa and about $13 Million less than the leafs.

Every-time you point to the amount of money the leafs spend, as if that is some kind of monumental achievement........you just make yourself look that much more foolish, if that's possible.


prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Apr 12 @ 3:29 PM ET
Well if he leaves they will trade him and get value for him. Unlike the leafs and bolland
- jordan456789


I'm really not worried about the second and fourth they gave up for Bolland.

If it were this year, I doubt Melnyk lets them trade Ryan, as he'd try to gun for the playoffs. So I see it as fully possible he walks for nothing.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Apr 12 @ 3:30 PM ET
Do you think the EXTRA $10 Million more the leafs spent this season, than the Senators was worth it?

toronto spent more than Montreal, Tampa Bay, Los Angeles, St. Louis, Columbus, Rangers, Anaheim and many more teams.

Heck the Avalanche only spent about $53 Million this season, less than Ottawa and about $13 Million less than the leafs.

Every-time you point to the amount of money the leafs spend, as if that is some kind of monumental achievement........you just make yourself look that much more foolish, if that's possible.

- Doppleganger



Yes, I do think it was worth it. Because not spending near the cap eliminates the possibility of icing a contending team. LA, Pit, Chi, Stl, all within a million of the cap.
Cape Breton Bruins
Boston Bruins
Location: 771 pages of no one caring, AB
Joined: 11.26.2008

Apr 12 @ 3:31 PM ET
Yes, I do think it was worth it. Because not spending near the cap eliminates the possibility of icing a contending team.
- prock

And in the Leafs case spending near the cap also eliminates the possibility of icing a contending team.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Apr 12 @ 3:32 PM ET
And in the Leafs case spending near the cap also eliminates the possibility of icing a contending team.
- Cape Breton Bruins



That makes no sense. At all. Smarten up.
Cape Breton Bruins
Boston Bruins
Location: 771 pages of no one caring, AB
Joined: 11.26.2008

Apr 12 @ 3:33 PM ET
That makes no sense. At all. Smarten up.
- prock

Point being you can spend all the money you want but its doesn't mean a good god damn if the organization suffers from gross incompetence.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Apr 12 @ 3:35 PM ET
Point being you can spend all the money you want but its doesn't mean a good god damn if the organization suffers from gross incompetence.
- Cape Breton Bruins



I'm aware of that. What you said doesn't make that point at all though, you idiot. I've never said spending to the cap guarantees a good team. Not spending near the cap guarantees you're not a contender though. You get that there is a difference right? Maybe if you read that a few times you'll get it.
Cape Breton Bruins
Boston Bruins
Location: 771 pages of no one caring, AB
Joined: 11.26.2008

Apr 12 @ 3:38 PM ET
I'm aware of that. What you said doesn't make that point at all though, you idiot. I've never said spending to the cap guarantees a good team. Not spending near the cap guarantees you're not a contender though. You get that there is a difference right? Maybe if you read that a few times you'll get it.
- prock



you're my absolute favourite.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Apr 12 @ 3:40 PM ET


you're my absolute favourite.

- Cape Breton Bruins



Just wondering. Did you finish high school? I'm certain there are no degrees to your name, that much is obvious, but I'm curious if you managed to finish high school. And if so, were you in your 20s at that point?
Pie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: taking the low road
Joined: 10.14.2006

Apr 12 @ 3:56 PM ET
Just wondering. Did you finish high school? I'm certain there are no degrees to your name, that much is obvious, but I'm curious if you managed to finish high school. And if so, were you in your 20s at that point?
- prock

Where do people who spend their day arguing with Dopps land on your spectrum of intelligence?
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Apr 12 @ 4:03 PM ET
Where do people who spend their day arguing with Dopps land on your spectrum of intelligence?
- Pie



Generally pretty high, because if they're taking an opposing point of view to Dopps, they're probably right.
Cape Breton Bruins
Boston Bruins
Location: 771 pages of no one caring, AB
Joined: 11.26.2008

Apr 12 @ 4:03 PM ET
Just wondering. Did you finish high school? I'm certain there are no degrees to your name, that much is obvious, but I'm curious if you managed to finish high school. And if so, were you in your 20s at that point?
- prock

Unfortunately I only have my Ontarian grade 12 which means I did grade 4 three times.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Apr 12 @ 4:06 PM ET
Unfortunately I only have my Ontarian grade 12 which means I did grade 4 three times.
- Cape Breton Bruins



Umm, no, it doesn't mean that.

So you sort of finished high school then. I'm assuming you're old enough that they still had grade 13/OAC when you were in school. If not, then congrats, you finished high school. I was pretty sure that's where you topped out, at most, though.
Cape Breton Bruins
Boston Bruins
Location: 771 pages of no one caring, AB
Joined: 11.26.2008

Apr 12 @ 4:08 PM ET
Umm, no, it doesn't mean that.

So you sort of finished high school then. I'm assuming you're old enough that they still had grade 13/OAC when you were in school. If not, then congrats, you finished high school. I was pretty sure that's where you topped out, at most, though.

- prock

You would be quite correct. I currently man the French fries station at a local Burger King.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Apr 12 @ 4:09 PM ET
You would be quite correct. I currently man the French fries station at a local Burger King.
- Cape Breton Bruins



I figured either that or a tradesman.
Cape Breton Bruins
Boston Bruins
Location: 771 pages of no one caring, AB
Joined: 11.26.2008

Apr 12 @ 4:12 PM ET
I figured either that or a tradesman.
- prock

I have nowhere near the qualifications to install and maintain high voltage Motor control centers with a speciality in automation through modern PLC's that operate some of the biggest and most advanced Oil and Gas plants on the planet.

For me, it begins and ends with delicious fries. Yummy.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Apr 12 @ 4:22 PM ET
I have nowhere near the qualifications to install and maintain high voltage Motor control centers with a speciality in automation through modern PLC's that operate some of the biggest and most advanced Oil and Gas plants on the planet.

For me, it begins and ends with delicious fries. Yummy.

- Cape Breton Bruins



whoa. motors. takes a genius for stuff like that eh? Hahaha.
Cape Breton Bruins
Boston Bruins
Location: 771 pages of no one caring, AB
Joined: 11.26.2008

Apr 12 @ 4:27 PM ET
whoa. motors. takes a genius for stuff like that eh? Hahaha.
- prock

depends on the motor and it depends on the genius.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Apr 12 @ 4:31 PM ET
depends on the motor and it depends on the genius.
- Cape Breton Bruins


I hear mechanics talk rocket science on their breaks.
Cape Breton Bruins
Boston Bruins
Location: 771 pages of no one caring, AB
Joined: 11.26.2008

Apr 12 @ 4:41 PM ET
I hear mechanics talk rocket science on their breaks.
- prock

We routinely use Honda Civic motors to produce enough steam to pull bitumen from hundreds of meters below the Earth's surface and Ford Focus motors to put 30,000 volts onto the grid with the intention of being stepped up to 256KV.

sensarmy_11
Ottawa Senators
Location: If Ottawa traded ryan for clarkson sens would need to add a pick - Prock, NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Apr 12 @ 5:13 PM ET
I'm aware of that. What you said doesn't make that point at all though, you idiot. I've never said spending to the cap guarantees a good team. Not spending near the cap guarantees you're not a contender though. You get that there is a difference right? Maybe if you read that a few times you'll get it.
- prock


i know you dont usually let facts get in your way, but the top 2 teams in the west aren't cap teams.

ana almost 5.5mil under

avs more than 10 mil under

dumbass
sensarmy_11
Ottawa Senators
Location: If Ottawa traded ryan for clarkson sens would need to add a pick - Prock, NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Apr 12 @ 5:15 PM ET
I hear mechanics talk rocket science on their breaks.
- prock


i would imagine you do hear them.....i bet you serve them timbits with their coffee too
sensarmy_11
Ottawa Senators
Location: If Ottawa traded ryan for clarkson sens would need to add a pick - Prock, NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Apr 12 @ 5:17 PM ET
We routinely use Honda Civic motors to produce enough steam to pull bitumen from hundreds of meters below the Earth's surface and Ford Focus motors to put 30,000 volts onto the grid with the intention of being stepped up to 256KV.
- Cape Breton Bruins


he probably tried to look up bitumen, gave up after an hour, and is now crying in the corner
Cape Breton Bruins
Boston Bruins
Location: 771 pages of no one caring, AB
Joined: 11.26.2008

Apr 12 @ 5:45 PM ET
he probably tried to look up bitumen, gave up after an hour, and is now crying in the corner
- sensarmy_11

No way man. He's wheeling three super models on a California king covered in $100 bills.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Apr 12 @ 6:52 PM ET
i know you dont usually let facts get in your way, but the top 2 teams in the west aren't cap teams.

ana almost 5.5mil under

avs more than 10 mil under

dumbass

- sensarmy_11



and neither will win the cup. never has a team not near the cap won it. Before the cap, nearly every year the winner was in the top 5 in spending. The only exception was TBay.

I can understand why a Sens fan would want to think it'll happen though.
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