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Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Uh-huh
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jan 16 @ 9:26 AM ET
my eyes are great....infact they look at the standings right now and see the leafs 3 pts away from not even being a playoff team.............I would think a "cup contender" would be a little further ahead htan that.
- sensarmy_11


Cool, now do the standings since the coaching change

No, I do not think the Leafs can win this year. Mainly I don't like our goaltending, and I don't think the team has the maturity or willingness to "pay the price", mostly that means a commitment to team defense is lacking

Yeah it has been a rough year overall so far. They have also had significant injuries to Dermott, Tavares, Marner, Johnsson, Moore, Muzzin, Rielly, Mikheyev. All significant pieces. They have not had their full lineup for even ONE game this year. They have also had among the toughest schedules so far and have among the easiest remaining.

You are flat out discounting a core whose biggest stars are in their early 20's and whose two best prospects are in their main area of need? Good lord.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Jan 16 @ 10:20 AM ET
Sens draft pick top 3, way to go Senaturs!!!
- senstroll


That kid is a gem.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Uh-huh
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jan 16 @ 10:46 AM ET
Remember when the Sens had the 2 best players on the planet, not already in the NHL.

I was assured this was true. It wasn't.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jan 16 @ 11:04 AM ET
Remember when the Sens had the 2 best players on the planet, not already in the NHL.

I was assured this was true. It wasn't.

- Aetherial


wrong.

they had 3 of the top 2.

get it right next time, aeth. or you'll be sorry.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Jan 16 @ 11:09 AM ET
Remember when the Sens had the 2 best players on the planet, not already in the NHL.

I was assured this was true. It wasn't.

- Aetherial



Who was that? Some crap like Drake Batherson? Alex Formenton?

It gave me fits of laughter watching senatards go all gaga over those two when they were drafted. Years later they're still AHL caliber players.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Jan 16 @ 11:11 AM ET
wrong.

they had 3 of the top 2.

get it right next time, aeth. or you'll be sorry.

- Tumbleweed


Yeah, just like the Canucks had 3 of the best 2 goalies on the planet a few years back. Who was the third? Impending superstar goalie Eddie Lack?

Ironically 2 of them ended up as Devils and neither are their starter.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Uh-huh
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jan 16 @ 11:46 AM ET
Who was that? Some crap like Drake Batherson? Alex Formenton?

It gave me fits of laughter watching senatards go all gaga over those two when they were drafted. Years later they're still AHL caliber players.

- prock


I have been informed, in this thread, that Batherson is top-10, easily.

I even forget who the magical two were. I think one was Colin White. The other may have been Chabot? At least Chabot is a good player. Neither was worth of the tongue-bathing Spatso gave them.

Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Uh-huh
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jan 16 @ 11:48 AM ET
wrong.

they had 3 of the top 2.

get it right next time, aeth. or you'll be sorry.

- Tumbleweed


I was the first person to accuse Vancouver of having 3 of the top 2 goalies.

It was while I was mocking their fanbase during the Luongo hockey-trade derp.

My Aetherial account was on a year-long ban, and my dispute with a Vancouver troll landed my Alt a 3-year ban.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jan 16 @ 12:06 PM ET
I have been informed, in this thread, that Batherson is top-10, easily.

I even forget who the magical two were. I think one was Colin White. The other may have been Chabot? At least Chabot is a good player. Neither was worth of the tongue-bathing Spatso gave them.

- Aetherial


could have been brown?

they potentially had more than 3??
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Uh-huh
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jan 16 @ 12:55 PM ET
could have been brown?

they potentially have more than 3??

- Tumbleweed


Maybe.

So that would mean Brown, White, Chabot were 3 of the top 2 players on the planet not playing in the NHL.
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jan 16 @ 2:05 PM ET
Sens have lost 8 games in a row

the Kids are alright
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Jan 16 @ 2:24 PM ET
I have been informed, in this thread, that Batherson is top-10, easily.

I even forget who the magical two were. I think one was Colin White. The other may have been Chabot? At least Chabot is a good player. Neither was worth of the tongue-bathing Spatso gave them.

- Aetherial


Batherson is nothing special, never thought he was personally. He'll be an okay 2nd/3rd liner most likely.

Chabot got so overhyped it's crazy. I recall watching the world juniors thinking he really was not that impressive. I thought the same of Barzal in the world juniors. Canada kept winding up and sending Barzal down the middle to break the zone, and he rarely ever managed to do much with it. It was pissing me off watching them try it so many times and watch it fail so many times. turds fans got all excited when he put up a bunch of points at the beginning of last season, but he tailed off pretty heavily, and has never come anywhere near that pace again. And he's not really all that young anymore. Going on 23.

I saw a senatard mention, in reference to Chabot, a while back "this franchise has been blessed with 2 generational dman now" and I nearly fell off my chair. He's going to be a decent, not great, point producer, nothing more. Tyson Barrie-ish in my opinion.
daeth
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: accuratently, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Jan 16 @ 3:53 PM ET
he's already better than barrie and he's what, 21 or 22?. chabot is probably already better than any dman the leafs have. he's all they got though. it's a trainwreck outside him and if they don't get lucky with the lottery he might have to do everything himself before he leaves to play for a better team once he's a UFA
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Jan 16 @ 8:18 PM ET
he's already better than barrie and he's what, 21 or 22?. chabot is probably already better than any dman the leafs have. he's all they got though. it's a trainwreck outside him and if they don't get lucky with the lottery he might have to do everything himself before he leaves to play for a better team once he's a UFA
- daeth


You think much better of him than i do. Hes similar to karlsson. Produces offensively, but not as much as karlsson. A mess defensively, but not as bad as karlsson.
haywoodjablome
Joined: 05.09.2014

Jan 17 @ 7:23 AM ET
You think much better of him than i do. Hes similar to karlsson. Produces offensively, but not as much as karlsson. A mess defensively, but not as bad as karlsson.
- prock


this poop is still going?

shouldn't you be more concerned with the defensive messes on your own team. I don't think the leafs have a single defenceman who actually knows how to play D. Rielly is an abomination, Barrie and Ceci play D like they're still 9 year olds playing peewee, your rookies are laughable in their own end. muzzin, not bad, but probably gone anyways.

The sens are a joke, but Chabot is infinitely better than anything the leafs have on their current roster or in the pipeline.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jan 17 @ 9:38 AM ET
this poop is still going?

shouldn't you be more concerned with the defensive messes on your own team. I don't think the leafs have a single defenceman who actually knows how to play D. Rielly is an abomination, Barrie and Ceci play D like they're still 9 year olds playing peewee, your rookies are laughable in their own end. muzzin, not bad, but probably gone anyways.

The sens are a joke, but Chabot is infinitely better than anything the leafs have on their current roster or in the pipeline.

- haywoodjablome


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haywoodjablome
Joined: 05.09.2014

Jan 17 @ 9:55 AM ET
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- Tumbleweed


is this supposed to be insulting to me or something? Congrats, you're team is better than the bottom feeders. Is this why leaf fans are mostly arrogant turds, because they only compare their team against all the teams at the bottom of the standings? You guys are like Jacksonville Jaguar fans being arrogant, but only comparing your team to the Cleveland Browns or Cincinnati Bengals

what's more relevant:

Tampa
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Washington
Calgary
Pittsburgh
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Panthers
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Leafs
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jan 17 @ 10:45 AM ET
is this supposed to be insulting to me or something? Congrats, you're team is better than the bottom feeders. Is this why leaf fans are mostly arrogant turds, because they only compare their team against all the teams at the bottom of the standings? You guys are like Jacksonville Jaguar fans being arrogant, but only comparing your team to the Cleveland Browns or Cincinnati Bengals

what's more relevant:

Tampa
Boston
Washington
Calgary
Pittsburgh
Blues
Islanders
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Panthers
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Leafs

- haywoodjablome


i agree that sabres and sens are the bengals and browns of the nhl
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Jan 17 @ 11:08 AM ET
this poop is still going?

shouldn't you be more concerned with the defensive messes on your own team. I don't think the leafs have a single defenceman who actually knows how to play D. Rielly is an abomination, Barrie and Ceci play D like they're still 9 year olds playing peewee, your rookies are laughable in their own end. muzzin, not bad, but probably gone anyways.

The sens are a joke, but Chabot is infinitely better than anything the leafs have on their current roster or in the pipeline.

- haywoodjablome



Sorry, just don't see it.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Jan 17 @ 11:09 AM ET


Tampa
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Washington
Calgary
Pittsburgh
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Islanders
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Panthers
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Leafs

- haywoodjablome



Do you actually believe this?
haywoodjablome
Joined: 05.09.2014

Jan 17 @ 1:05 PM ET
Do you actually believe this?
- prock


that all of those teams are better overall than the leafs? absolutely

maybe I could remove 1 dot between florida and Toronto....

if all your judging is every teams top 4 players....it's hard to argue that the leafs are right there at the top of the league........unfortunately for you guys, it takes more than that to be a legit cup contender, and all of those teams are significantly more "complete" than the leafs. the only team I might take off are the Islanders, as looking at their roster I keep waiting for them to tumble, but they haven't tumbled in more than a season and a half....so it probably wont' happen.
haywoodjablome
Joined: 05.09.2014

Jan 17 @ 1:06 PM ET
i agree that sabres and sens are the bengals and browns of the nhl
- Tumbleweed


yup, and like I said, the leafs are the Jacksonville jaguars. every year people predict that they'll be really good going into the season, and every year they find new and increasingly spectacular ways to fail.
haywoodjablome
Joined: 05.09.2014

Jan 17 @ 1:07 PM ET
Sorry, just don't see it.
- prock


You should try opening your eyes then, it might help you see what an abomination of a blueline the leafs have.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jan 17 @ 1:08 PM ET
yup, and like I said, the leafs are the Jacksonville jaguars. every year people predict that they'll be really good going into the season, and every year they find new and increasingly spectacular ways to fail.
- haywoodjablome


disagree.

they have been very consistent recently about how they fail.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Jan 17 @ 1:10 PM ET
that all of those teams are better overall than the leafs? absolutely

maybe I could remove 1 dot between florida and Toronto....

if all your judging is every teams top 4 players....it's hard to argue that the leafs are right there at the top of the league........unfortunately for you guys, it takes more than that to be a legit cup contender, and all of those teams are significantly more "complete" than the leafs. the only team I might take off are the Islanders, as looking at their roster I keep waiting for them to tumble, but they haven't tumbled in more than a season and a half....so it probably wont' happen.

- haywoodjablome



You're pretty dumb.
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