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Does Tarasenko Signng Put Ottawa in the Playoffs?
As we had been reporting, Tarasenko was in the position where he had to sign a one year deal and did so last night with the Sens. Pretty amazing signing in my opinion. For only $5M Tarasenko, with a chip on his shoulder, definitely makes the Sens more scary. I think it may put them in the playoffs..Do you? |
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Pacificgem
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Location: Villanova, PA Joined: 07.01.2007
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As long as they beat the Leafs, that's all that really matters!! |
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CappyJr.
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Maybe, if he stays healthy |
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I'd say probably.
With a healthy Norris adding in 40 goals, we are probably a 7 or 8 seed this year.......if we get above average goal tending |
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Should of locked up Pinto long term and added cheap depth but instead we have another stupid move by Dorion trying to save his job. What combination of roster players and picks will this signing cost? Joseph would need a sweetener like a first or maybe a JBD or Greig. Then you need to move Brannstrom out with a sweetener like a pick.
The franchise deconstruction continues.
What concerns me is that every GM knows this fool masquerading as an NHL GM has painted himself into a corner and needs to shed salary. If I were one of the other GMs in the league I'd be looking to steal either Pinto or Batherson, maybe even Chabot. |
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I like how this signing is automatically given a thumbs up (ie this makes them a playoff team) while those who are following closely understand the damaging cap implications.
But Ek deserves credit for predicting this. He had Tarasenko to the Panthers or Sens, but also noted Pittsburgh, Toronto, and NYI involved. Nailed it. |
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spatso
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Should of locked up Pinto long term and added cheap depth but instead we have another stupid move by Dorion trying to save his job. What combination of roster players and picks will this signing cost? Joseph would need a sweetener like a first or maybe a JBD or Greig. Then you need to move Brannstrom out with a sweetener like a pick.
The franchise deconstruction continues.
What concerns me is that every GM knows this fool masquerading as an NHL GM has painted himself into a corner and needs to shed salary. If I were one of the other GMs in the league I'd be looking to steal either Pinto or Batherson, maybe even Chaobot. - Whatisavailable
Would be shocked and disappointed if Pinto were moved. Moving either Joseph or Brannstrom should be enough to be fully cap compliant.
I don't think they need to make any moves until the opening game. And, almost certain, there will be sufficient injury savings that enable the Sens to just stick with the roster as it is this morning.
But, I think Dorion has one big deal left before the season opens.
This is going to be a very good team. Keen to see them play the Devils head to head.
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Chunk
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What were their biggest flaws last year, and does Tarasenko address them? Have they addressed them in other moves?
I think I'd be a bit concerned with the Korpisalo/Forsberg tandem considering their history and injuries. |
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Should of locked up Pinto long term and added cheap depth but instead we have another stupid move by Dorion trying to save his job. What combination of roster players and picks will this signing cost? Joseph would need a sweetener like a first or maybe a JBD or Greig. Then you need to move Brannstrom out with a sweetener like a pick.
The franchise deconstruction continues.
What concerns me is that every GM knows this fool masquerading as an NHL GM has painted himself into a corner and needs to shed salary. If I were one of the other GMs in the league I'd be looking to steal either Pinto or Batherson, maybe even Chabot. - Whatisavailable
Horrible take. Teams have been over the cap until training camp multiple times and they 'find a way'. I know you're not used to it because the Sens had the cheapest owner in the league for a decade, but this is business as usual for many NHL teams.
All it will take is finding 2M to give to Pinto. A Branstrom trade, and it's done. Not a huge deal.
Franchise deconstruction?
In the last couple years, he has brought in a top 6 forward (Giroux), another top 6 forward (Tarasenko), a top 3 Dman (Chychryn), got two absolute steals of contracts out of Stutzle and Tkchuck.
Took a calculated risk in signing Korpisalo.
I am not really sure how you can rip any of these moves. Yes the Debrincat move blew up in his face, but the Sens ended up with Kubalik and Tarasenko (at a lower cap it, combined) as replacements. The old making lemonade from lemons with that one.
Would you really rather have Debrincat over Kubalik AND Tarasenko at a lower cap hit?
If you want to rip Dorion, there are other areas you could for sure, but signing a top 6 guy with the potential to score 30 easily for 1 yr 5M is not the time to do it. |
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What were their biggest flaws last year, and does Tarasenko address them? Have they addressed them in other moves?
I think I'd be a bit concerned with the Korpisalo/Forsberg tandem considering their history and injuries. - Chunk
Biggest flaws were goaltending and defense.
They got Chychrun near deadline and added Korpisalo.
Those two guys in the lineup all of last year, and they were a playoff team.
And this is not even mentioning they were without their 2LC who scored 35 the year before for the entire season. |
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Would be shocked and disappointed if Pinto were moved. Moving either Joseph or Brannstrom should be enough to be fully cap compliant.
I don't think they need to make any moves until the opening game. And, almost certain, there will be sufficient injury savings that enable the Sens to just stick with the roster as it is this morning.
But, I think Dorion has one big deal left before the season opens.
This is going to be a very good team. Keen to see them play the Devils head to head. - spatso
SMH
You're the guy who kept insisting all last year that there were not going to be any cap issues because the cap was going to be 96 million dollars. You just make up this delusional nonsense in your head and then pretend that it's real. |
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Horrible take. Teams have been over the cap until training camp multiple times and they 'find a way'. I know you're not used to it because the Sens had the cheapest owner in the league for a decade, but this is business as usual for many NHL teams.
All it will take is finding 2M to give to Pinto. A Branstrom trade, and it's done. Not a huge deal.
Franchise deconstruction?
In the last couple years, he has brought in a top 6 forward (Giroux), another top 6 forward (Tarasenko), a top 3 Dman (Chychryn), got two absolute steals of contracts out of Stutzle and Tkchuck.
Took a calculated risk in signing Korpisalo.
I am not really sure how you can rip any of these moves. Yes the Debrincat move blew up in his face, but the Sens ended up with Kubalik and Tarasenko (at a lower cap it, combined) as replacements. The old making lemonade from lemons with that one.
Would you really rather have Debrincat over Kubalik AND Tarasenko at a lower cap hit?
If you want to rip Dorion, there are other areas you could for sure, but signing a top 6 guy with the potential to score 30 easily for 1 yr 5M is not the time to do it. - Charliebox
Another funny guy!
Why you giving a whole 2 million to Pinto? He only scored 20 goals in what was effectively his rookie season and plays a sound 200 foot game. League minimum should be more than enough for a bum like that.
You and Dorion think alike and I bet he's going to try and low ball Pinto. I actually predicted that he would do that months ago because I think he's a mor on.
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AlfieisKing
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Location: Canada, ON Joined: 11.05.2007
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Tarasenko + Kubalik (7.5) >>>>> DeBrincat (7.75)
Full year of Josh Norris (#2A center)
Full year of Jakob Chychrun (#2 D-man)
Significant progression of Jake Sanderson (#2 D-man)
Progression of Tim Stutzle (#1A Center)
Concerns?
Health (no signs of injury problems with Norris, Batherson, Chychrun)
Cap --- need to move Joseph!
Goaltending -- will it click and JK live up to contract
HAVING A GOOD START !!! Biggest problem with this team (coach)
Other teams --- BUF, FLA, TOR, TBL hold playoff reserves
Sens SHOULD be in the playoff hunt all season. |
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OttawaB
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Location: Ottawa, ON Joined: 08.02.2016
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Tarasenko + Kubalik (7.5) >>>>> DeBrincat (7.75)
Full year of Josh Norris (#2A center)
Full year of Jakob Chychrun (#2 D-man)
Significant progression of Jake Sanderson (#2 D-man)
Progression of Tim Stutzle (#1A Center)
Concerns?
Health (no signs of injury problems with Norris, Batherson, Chychrun)
Cap --- need to move Joseph!
Goaltending -- will it click and JK live up to contract
HAVING A GOOD START !!! Biggest problem with this team (coach)
Other teams --- BUF, FLA, TOR, TBL hold playoff reserves
Sens SHOULD be in the playoff hunt all season. - AlfieisKing
Good post. I agree with it all. For all teams, health and things working out as planned are always the big "if". A lot needs to go right for any team to make the playoffs. I believe the Sens have enough to make the playoffs, although I would like to see a veteran added to the bottom 6 (with ruggedness, "snot" LOL, but experience). I also think the Sens may be playing better then just a wild card spot.
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Horrible take. Teams have been over the cap until training camp multiple times and they 'find a way'. I know you're not used to it because the Sens had the cheapest owner in the league for a decade, but this is business as usual for many NHL teams.
All it will take is finding 2M to give to Pinto. A Branstrom trade, and it's done. Not a huge deal.
Franchise deconstruction?
In the last couple years, he has brought in a top 6 forward (Giroux), another top 6 forward (Tarasenko), a top 3 Dman (Chychryn), got two absolute steals of contracts out of Stutzle and Tkchuck.
Took a calculated risk in signing Korpisalo.
I am not really sure how you can rip any of these moves. Yes the Debrincat move blew up in his face, but the Sens ended up with Kubalik and Tarasenko (at a lower cap it, combined) as replacements. The old making lemonade from lemons with that one.
Would you really rather have Debrincat over Kubalik AND Tarasenko at a lower cap hit?
If you want to rip Dorion, there are other areas you could for sure, but signing a top 6 guy with the potential to score 30 easily for 1 yr 5M is not the time to do it. - Charliebox
Well said sir
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Another funny guy!
Why you giving a whole 2 million to Pinto? He only scored 20 goals in what was effectively his rookie season and plays a sound 200 foot game. League minimum should be more than enough for a bum like that.
You and Dorion think alike and I bet he's going to try and low ball Pinto. I actually predicted that he would do that months ago because I think he's a mor on. - Whatisavailable
It's not lowballing. It's the business of hockey. Pinto doesn't deserve more than 2.5 per for 2 years. He scored 20 goals, with 9 of them coming in the first two months.
He was also a -21 (3rd worst on team behind Batherson and Debrincat) so I am not sure where this 'sound 200 ft game' comes from.
Kid needs to earn it. With the injury the year before, last year was his rookie year. You don't throw a ton of cash at sophomore players, unless they are extremely special.
Remember, Sanderson will be in his 3rd yr (technically) cause they burned one and he is making 925K.
The only reason Pinto is out of entry level is cause he is again, technically, going into his 4th year. But the kid has played ONE NHL season.
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Chunk
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Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL Joined: 11.06.2015
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Tarasenko + Kubalik (7.5) >>>>> DeBrincat (7.75)
Full year of Josh Norris (#2A center)
Full year of Jakob Chychrun (#2 D-man)
Significant progression of Jake Sanderson (#2 D-man)
Progression of Tim Stutzle (#1A Center)
Concerns?
Health (no signs of injury problems with Norris, Batherson, Chychrun)
Cap --- need to move Joseph!
Goaltending -- will it click and JK live up to contract
HAVING A GOOD START !!! Biggest problem with this team (coach)
Other teams --- BUF, FLA, TOR, TBL hold playoff reserves
Sens SHOULD be in the playoff hunt all season. - AlfieisKing
No trolling here... don't get too high on Kubalik. He is going to break your heart. Yes, he will be a decent streaky scorer (as most are), but unless he makes some huge change to address his awareness and decision making near and between the blue lines and in his own zone, he will quickly become infuriating.
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Chunk
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Biggest flaws were goaltending and defense.
They got Chychrun near deadline and added Korpisalo.
Those two guys in the lineup all of last year, and they were a playoff team.
And this is not even mentioning they were without their 2LC who scored 35 the year before for the entire season. - Charliebox
Cool. I hope the results next year are better. |
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What don't people see with this lazy slug. NO his signing does NOT put Ottawa in the playoffs. This is a guy who scored 18 (EIGHTEEN!!) goals in 69 games last year, and gave half-hearted efforts most nights. Tarasenko has NEVER lived up to the hype, why would he start now. |
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Nightmare Fuel
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Lmao no what are you on about |
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Here's another thing. Norris is back. You also have Stutzle, Tkachuk and Batherson who have played very well on the PP. Which one of those long term guys are you going to kick off of the PP in order to make Tarasenko look good for a year?
God how I dislike Dorion! Fire him ASAP before he completely ruins the team. |
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spatso
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Here's another thing. Norris is back. You also have Stutzle, Tkachuk and Batherson who have played very well on the PP. Which one of those long term guys are you going to kick off of the PP in order to make Tarasenko look good for a year?
God how I dislike Dorion! Fire him ASAP before he completely ruins the team. - Whatisavailable
Not much logic here. You want to fire Dorion before he ruins the team. But in acknowledging that it good enough to be ruined you are also conceding Dorion has had some success in building the team. Most fans really like this team and moves that Dorion has made. Perhaps we should think of you as undecided or inconsistent.
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